BTW, what exactly is he protesting about? I have seen some mumbling about "elitism" but I'd like to understand what his manifesto is (so we can put it to the test-o, to paraphrase the Sultans of Ping FC).
Or is it a generic "Down with this sort of thing?"
To be fair I don't think he's entirely made up his mind what his "protest" was about. It appears to be about a whole bunch of stuff which don't necessarily have an automatic connection, including elitism and austerity cuts. I think he throws in suggestions as he remembers things which he doesn't agree with.
All the classic muddled thinking of a middle-class liberal trendy who understands little about real class politics.
IMHO of course.
I think they've done him a favour.
Edit: the way he has been treated shows his protest was perfectly aimed. Having made his point he should now vote with his feet.
I liked his optimistic approach to how he's going to avoid deportation by hoping they forget. Going on Newsnight may have been a tactical error.
I find it genuinely amazing that anyone thinks it's justified to send someone to jail, then deport them, over delaying a university boat race for a bit. Seriously, WTF goes through your minds?!
Yes I ranted about it in another thread, but Lord Green oversaw and profited from large scale money laundering for terrorists, drug cartels and rogue states, and instead of jail he gets appointed as government trade minister. Meanwhile we jail and deport someone for going for a swim. 😕
Yes I ranted about it in another thread, but Lord Green oversaw and profited from large scale money laundering for terrorists, drug cartels and rogue states, and instead of jail he gets appointed as government trade minister. Meanwhile we jail and deport someone for going for a swim.
Apples and oranges. I don't know much about Lord Green but old Trenton is getting deported because he committed a criminal offence (whether you agree it should be criminal or not is not under discussion) and has made it clear he'd commit more to further his cause (whatever it is). That, unfortunately, puts him at odds with his visa requirements.
Just because one thing happens, that's not a requirement for the other to happen.
Yeah what you're saying is logically correct. Doesn't make it right though.
grum - To be totally honest, if he showed a single iota of concern for his girlfriend and unborn kid in this (i.e. had tempered his statement to say he was prepared to go back to prison IF he wasn't about to be a dad), I'd be more inclined to give him the sympathy you do. That interview he did made it sound like even though he doesn't care about his family being split up from his own actions, the rest of us should care about the government doing the same.
The French seem to quite actively engage in protests, I don't even think they ask permission from the authorities first, which might seem to be a rather quaint concept on the British side of the channel.
Swings and roundabouts as the French riot police then get involved.
You need permission for a demo in France. An "authorisation préfectorale" is needed for any event in a public place whether it's music, a sporting event such as a bike race, anti mariage pour tous or the CGT moaning. However, keep the numbers down and you're just covered by the laws of what you can and can't do in public.
That's the theory but when the gouvernement really upsets people then cobbles start flying regardless.
A swimmer interupting race would get arrested, locked up for the duration of whatever he was protesting about, then assuming there was no "outrage à agent", kicked out with a warning or a modest fine to pay.
Edukator - MemberI think they've done him a favour.
I think deporting him will do his unborn child a favour.
