[Closed] The STW Ski & Snowboard thread. The 2013-2014 season

1. Ski Famille, Flashy, you've been told once already.

2. Some Now IPO bindings - well I'd been interested in them and with 40%,off the 2013s...

They don't go to Serre Che. 🙁 Look ace, though!

Have friends out there, and love skiing there, so don't really want to 'change resorts' just because of Little Miss CFH. Am selfish like that!

Well hopefully I'll be doing my first non indoor boarding at some point....maybe Scotland for Xmas, Serre Che or Tignes through ucpa in Feb, maybe Jansa over Easter.

New kit....I need a helmet and goggles and a decent jacket to hit the slopes in. Tried some Burton Mission bindings at the weekend, much preferred them to my K2 indies...hmm...!

Doing my first freestyle session this Friday 😯

Never ever call snowboarding 'boarding'. 😉
http://whitelines.mpora.com/features/debate/dont_call_it_boarding.html

Snow & Rock have a massive sale on Ski wear at the mo..

I'm booked for Solden mid January with the boys plus need another one, maybe new-year, with the girls. Just bought a new board and [i]really[/i] going to try to not spend any more "this season", though I've been thinking about a 'sponder...

You have good taste in jackets CFH. Love how light it is.

Snow and rock at port solent has a sale on at the moment but not a massive amount in it I thought. Did get a half decent set of poles though with 40% off.

It's all about stealth jackets and LOUD trousers if you ask me!

This is the look I was 'rocking' last season. Black jacket and two pairs of trousers one Kelly green one bright blue.

We should be going back to Morzine in Feb for the third year in a row. I just have to not hire horrible Salomon boots and to not bugger up my ankle again.

Hmmmmmm..... I want more lessons with Darren Turner in Serre Che next year but I love Austria. Decisions, decisions!

I have a pair of 188 Whitedot Directors (they're actually prototypes...) When I first skied them (on piste, on the way to the good stuff) I thought they were a massive mistake. They're terrible on piste, as in really bad. Then I tried them in deep snow and never looked back. I just have to make I don't get them out if I'm only skiing with the family... Also, the guys at Whitedot are very friendly and know their stuff. The new carbon skis looks great!

Yay! Summer solstice has been and gone. Winter's on its way 🙂 \o/

New gear for this year will be a new jacket I think. And some more base layers probably. Quite tempted to do an N+1 (well N+2 I guess?) on skis.

Played about on Whitedot One's and Movement Jam last yr. Like the latter, but really wanted to play some more on them. Too similar to my Rictors though.

Also had a play on a pair of Stöckli FIS Slalom skis for a day. Something along those lines is now very much on my "I really need a pair of them" list. Pricey, but I might just say sod it and order a pair. Ace on piste, and didn't kill me.

Where to go...? Dolomites again probably. Austria for some weekends again (drive down after work and back on Sunday pm). Then either Meribel, or Tignes, or Folgarida for a potential week of skills enhancement. Oh and maybe somewhere for Christmas.

Got withdrawal symptoms now.

I've just had my first weekend skiing of the season 8)

Mt Hutt on Saturday, Broken River on Sunday.

Where to go next weekend??

Aaaaahhhhhh.

Cairngorm for the season, Lecht and Glenshee, probably with a couple of trips to the Alps, Austrian in variety methinks 😛

We should be going back to Morzine in Feb for the third year in a row. I just have to not hire horrible Salomon boots and to not bugger up my ankle again.

3rd year in a row? Time to be buying your own boots, I'd say! Get thee to a decent shop and buy some!

Agree with Flashy, worth buying boots for next season.

There'll be no new kit purchases and I'm faced with the possibility of no ski trip this year too 🙁

Got fed up with work so from the end of the month I'll be jobless. However, I'm hoping that I'll be a student for just one year and will start to have a lot more annual leave than I've ever had!

Serre Chev......went there in 1986, never found anywhere better since!

I just booked a cheeky 4.5 days skiing between christmas and new year taking my 13 yr old daughter. We fly BA to munich £300, pick up a car £120 drive 1hr to Neiderau, stay 4 nights in a Hotel £350 and have the whole area to choose from....Soll, Westendorf, Kitsbuhel. Ski passes about £120 for adults. Food and drink is cheaper than at home!

Just a little warm up before my Boys trip end of Feb to the same area.

Rockape - Hotel Staffler and a Salzburger Superski pass?

I would love to buy some boots but unfortunately because of my knackered ankle (I broke it on my first ever day of skiing). I don't know if or when it will be fixed properly so I don't want to commit to boots until it is better. At the moment skiing hurts quite a lot and it is difficult to turn right because of the force I have to use on my left ankle. This year should be better as long as I don't have a silly crash again.

Either way I think I am going to get a new helmet and possibly goggles for this season.

We've booked flights and accomodation for Feb half term.
Same as last year.
Fly LH Manchester-Munich.
Pick up a hire car and over the Brenner to Kronplatz.
Brilliant little family run Gasthof outside of Bruneck that we've used about half a dozen times over the years. [url= http://www.neunhaeusern.com/ ]http://www.neunhaeusern.com/[/url]

My 14yo daughter will need new skis this year too. She's got her heart set on Volkl Race Tigers but she's probably a bit light to get the best out of them. Any suggestions for other 80%+ piste ski for a light but very fast & capable intermediate? (not looking for a full-on GS ski)

Rockape - Hotel Staffler and a Salzburger Superski pass?

Correct Hammerite! well almost...I'll be there in Feb/march but couldn't get in in December so found a place just up the road that will do the job.

Regarding boots, I nearly bought some last year as I went twice. However I didn't, but hired in Norway and Austria and both were great!

Meanwhile my pal who spent a LOT of money on his, had all the inserts etc struggled with them.

so I'm sticking to hiring again this year.

Any suggestions for other 80%+ piste ski for a light but very fast & capable intermediate? (not looking for a full-on GS ski)

I tried some Nordica Spitfires a while back and was very, very, very impressed. Well worth a look. (Not sure what their 2014 range looks like yet, though)

Ecky....is it really worth buying ski's for a 14 yr old? I'm finding the quality of hire ski's in the better shops is very good. What are the maths?

Not got any buying plans. I bought my first solid board for 13 years at the end of last season, a Dupraz D1 5'5. Beatiful thing, and more fun than any snowboard I've ridden for a long time.

I might get a new set of bindings, though. Old Salomon Relays are getting a bit tired.

No plans so far other than to go back to the Lyngen Alps in northern Norway, hopefully for two weeks.

Two days this year just whetted the appetite!

Thought it might be. I was looking at the Staffler last week as a budget possibility just in case we can manage to get away next season.

It is a bit cheap and cheerful (staffler) and you all have to sit down to eat at 6.30pm which is a bit early. But great skiing all around.

One of my chums has just bought an apartment in Bourg St Maurice so we'll be going there for some touring in Jan. I did a gearfreaks overdose at the end of last season and bought a complete touring set up. No more piste for me....

#adds to favourites#

I hope to get over to the Alps this year, there was so much snow last year that a) the local stuff was great b) the roads were awful and I didn't fancy being stuck for days.

No more piste for me

We get by quite nicely on cheap and cheerful Rockape, so long as there's a bed and the food is edible we're not too fussy! The skiing is much more important.

Ecky....is it really worth buying ski's for a 14 yr old? ...
... What are the maths?

In purely financial terms, probably not.

Being the first on the slopes in the morning - priceless. 😀

Ah well fair enough....I'm arriving midday so a quick detour via the hire shop will be okay. Plus none of the hassle with dragging them out there.......

I've decided not to go this year

I've done 1-3 trips a year since 2000 and I'm getting jaded with all the powder in Canada

1st world problems and all that

Just need a fresh challenge

Time to go skiing in Scotland then plumber (in an average season that is)

Did my first freestyle session tonight.....not as easy as it looks is it 😯 plenty of spills but my ego bore the brunt of them 🙂

Coaching is definitely required!

Going up to Hemel for a midday play on monday if anyone's around? Need to cool down! New forest nearly ended me today!

Ahhh, the Fridge! Love a bit of a play there! Used to session it silly when testing skis. OK, so not exactly shredding the gnat, but great fun all the same.

Used to work in the Glasgow one so I don't mind them at all. They've got a deal of £60 for the whole month. Mon to thurs only though I think.

I'll be at the Cfe for a few hours tomorrow night attempting some more freestyle!

😳 I managed 20 mins before Mrs B had to drive me home! Initially thought that I'd broken my wrist-hopefully just a sprain though.

Need any helpful advice you guys have.

I used to ski a little as a kid - bit of alpine, mainly cross-country. I wasn't great but I could parallel on a set of 210 straight edged XC skis.

Then I did my knees in my early 20s.

These days I ride a snowboard, but my 7 year old (who is disturbingly competent on skis) is desperate for us to ski together.

Now I can't snowplough, but if I can skip and parallel straight off then I reckon I might be OK.

I've been to Cas Xscape and they said private lessons and rocker skis and I might well be able to do it (I don't want to try for the first time in the Alps and wreck a week on the snowboard).

So. Am I mad? What (constructive) advice do you have?

My personal opinion is that it's best to have a strong foundation to build on, so that means nailing the basics. If you accidentally take a wrong turn down a more technical slope, or even just when in the lift queues, snow plough comes in handy.

At braehead, we used to get lots of people coming in who had not been skiing in years and didn't know where they would fit in with the lesson structure. Private lessons is a good but pricey call. I'd book onto a level 2 group lesson and explain the situation to the instructor.

Anyways, just spent 3 hrs bumming (ahem) about hemel. An older local guy I've met a couple of times turned up with his tellies as well so had a wee brush up on technique. Felt like stepping into a sauna when I left though then traffic jam on m3 in this heat while needing a piss. Not fun.

igm, there's a school of thought among modern instructors that it's better to skip snow-plough and go straight to parallel turning anyway. Bit like using a balance bike instead of stabilisers to learn to ride a bike!

Even so, I think you would struggle to find group lessons following this approach. Private lessons may be the best way to go.

Plowing kills my legs but is necessary for two reasons.
1. I'm crap.
And More importantly.
2. Because my kids cant ski at the same speed as I do when parallel so I need to plow to ski next to them.

Is it your knees that are stopping you plowing? If not then it would be good to learn to parallel if only to be slow enough for your kid.

Taking the family to Bansko in early Jan and then the main event...my annual trip with the lads early March. Snows been great over the past few years so hopefully it'll be more of the same next year. Can't wait.

Yes, its my knees that stop me snow ploughing - or at least when i tried to go back to skiing 10 years ago, I could snow plough, but I couldn't walk properly for 3 weeks.

Given I can ride a snowboard, cycle both road and mountain, or run a 10k and the injury didn't stop me playing another 10 years of rugby, I'm inclined to think parallel will be fine.

I should be able to hold low speeds with skidded parallels (like you effectively do on a board), but my my 7 year old is pretty quick (except on flats) anyway.

I doubt I'd be trying anything I can't do on a board .

I'm going to give this a go.

Thanks

So, it would appear that the MIL is interested in [s]being daytime childcare while we go skiing[/s] joining us on a ski holiday. Which is nice.

She's very much a non-skier, but I reckon she'd be fine to bring Little Miss CFH up the mountain now and again for lunch/playtime!

Things may be looking good for January...! 🙂

Nice one Captain. I went up with my youngest last year while my wife skied with our oldest and we had a mess around on the snow and did a bit of sledging before meeting up with the wife and having a bite to eat.

We have just booked our chalet for the first week in Febuary in Morzine. Its got a big steep garden that looks great for sledging with the kids/dropping off on skis!

Good work cfh!

igm - You'll be fine. You might even be OK just to hire a set of skis and spend a morning on your own at the dome. From snowboarding you know what an edge does, how much pressure it needs to turn and stop, how behaviour is affected by speed and snow conditions. You'll probably remember plenty from 1st go round.

A private lesson is a great idea. You might be skipping steps and moving on quicker (or slower) than you think, and being tied to a a group's pace might not be the best use of your time.

I snowboard, I had one 45 minute lesson on skis on a dryslope and hated the teacher so much I neveer took another. Took skis out for a day halfway through a season in BC, and it was amazing fun, I was getting air out the halfpipe at the end of the day. I'm sure I looked absoultely horrible, but I was having a ton of fun.

Actually, it not beng "my sport", I felt no pressure whatsoever to try and look good or cultivate any variety of style - just hoon about!

Anyone else spotted this?
[url= http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/giant-200m-real-snow-ski-centre-planned-for-westfield-stratford-8732116.html?origin=internalSearch ]Big new fridge being built in That London. [/url]

*warning contains bragging*

Yesterday I landed my first backside board slide. It took me four attempts but I absolutely nailed it fourth time! I iz teh awesumz 8)

BOOM! 🙂

(I'm shit at rails!)

You slid on your backside?

Congratulations, you're now a real snowboardist!

🙂

OMG - you've all started without me.

So - we need to book a jolly sometime in January, several of us with plenty of experience (happy with blacks and like some off piste), suggestions please?

Hotel or chalet,
Europe.

Thanks

🙂

Anyone got some recommendations for French speaking resorts with decent cross country skiing, ideally with a decent hotel. More interested in specialist location away from mega resort with a couple of token xc tracks. Asking as I'm not sure my knee will be fully recovered for DH this year

Well, the mini vinnys (6 and 8 )have just done a 2x2hr intro at hemel, and want to sack off the horse riding in favour of skis. 😆
Glory days, after some 10 seasons in resorts I gave it all away in the mid 90s, saw no point in spending huge cash for a week here and a week there, and have been skiing exactly three times since, admittedly once for a month, but it hardly counts over that many years.
Bit of interest from the kids seems to have changed my mind however.
Now, to find a beginner friendly resort (fishing for suggestions here) dust down the P10's, and clean the spiders out of the V3's!

[quote=Bunnyhop ]OMG - you've all started without me.
So - we need to book a jolly sometime in January, several of us with plenty of experience (happy with blacks and like some off piste), suggestions please?
Hotel or chalet,
Europe.
Thanks

2 weeks. Done many of the bigger french resorts, happy to look at smaller resorts or even try Italy or Austria - but IO speak french so it's a lot easier there 🙂

also, happy to consider nice apartments, must sleep 4 in TWO bedrooms (i.e. not one bedroom plus sofabed in lounge!) and preferably have two bathrooms

Right then.....Serre Che of Tignes in Feb half term? Going through UCPA-never been abroad before, so can't imagine that I'll be needing too mush off piste etc.....plenty of good groomed pistes will be the order of the day-not too fussed about the snow park as I do freestyle stuff every other week in the fridge.

I'm slightly edging towards Tignes atm but obviously have no idea what either resorts pros and done are!

Tom - I love Tignes. Also attached to Va D'Isere which I also love. Go there 🙂

@TomB the freestyle areas in the Alps are nothing like those in an indoor centre, it's like comparing a Welsh trail centre with Chamonix.

Of your two resort choices I'd go with Tignes. It's big enough to have a decent chance of getting away from the crowds in half term. Plus make sure you get over to Val d'Isere - the La Daille side at least. I recall you are a boarder, off-psite is what boarding is all about really and lots of options in Tignes/Val, just play around off the main runs.

Cheers for the tips-not sure if the lift pass that I get from UCPA covers Val D'Isere too? Hopefully it does. I can appreciate that the snow parks are going to be much better than in the fridge, but I really just want to get on the slopes and board for hours without faffing-150m at the Chill Factore is only a novelty for so long!

New touring skis for me this year. I want something light but with a bit more grip than my Waybacks.

Any suggestions? I don't get the impression there's many tourers on here.

There are a few; "It's all XC" after all!

No help from me, I'm afraid, I know nowt about skis.

Bit of help required here - do you have any tips for keeping things cheap during the school holidays?

We don't have kids but my girlfriend has got a job working in a school and as such we're restricted on when we can go - which looks like it's going to put the price up quite a bit.

I'm competent on a snowboard having done 3 trips thus far and comfortable on black / off piste terrain, whereas my other half has only been once and is currently getting the grasp of parallel turns (she's on ski's) though will be having a few more lessons before we go to avoid the need for more tuition out there.

Last year's trip to Passo Tonale in Italy was cheap (approx £700 all in half board) and really good for her as a beginner but I'd like to go somewhere a little bigger this time so she can progress a little more (though having done the Espace Killy / 3 Valley's before don't feel the need to pay for that much terrain when it won't be fully utilized)

We're not fussed on location (though Andorra or Austria would be cool as neither of us have been before) but would like either a half board hotel / room in a chalet if just the two of us, or a cheap apartment if as part of a larger group.

I guess the trick is to avoid the UK travel companies and try to go direct due to the price hikes, but I don't really know what the best solution is... any suggestions appreciated.

UCPA would be a good idea also I guess.

Try mountainsun, I think they run special price weeks for teachers - they have places in Tignes, La Plagne and the Dolomites

Nice little teaser video from Burton to get the snowboarders in the mood:

So, it looks like I'm off to St Christoph, Austria in January for a week of skiing with some old uni mates I haven't seen in a while. Should be an excellent week, the resort looks pretty mint and we're staying in a fully catered chalet hotel thing. Expensive, but hopefully worth the expense.

Now, I don't have my own skis or snowboard and haven't actually been on a set of skiis in a fairly long time. Spent a week learning to snowboard in La Plagne 2 years ago but the snow was rubbish, very icy and hard packed and it was a pretty painful week, though by the end of it I was linking turns and could get down all of the harder blue runs.

Last time I skied I got on ok, red runs and some blacks were fine and even some of easier off piste stuff.

Question is, is skiing like riding a bike? Will I get back on the skies and remember how to do it all or will I flounder around and ruin my (already shaky) knees? Or should I get some lessons and get back on the snowboard?

Secondly, is it worth getting a set of discounted ski boots (if I go for them rather than the board)? It will cost £55 to hire boots and there seems to be a fair few choices about at little over double that? Worth spending the extra cash if I plan on skiing a bit more regularly now that I have a job and not buming around as a poor student?

meames - Member

We're not fussed on location (though Andorra or Austria would be cool as neither of us have been before) but would like either a half board hotel / room in a chalet if just the two of us, or a cheap apartment if as part of a larger group.

Go for Andora or Bulgaria, both pretty cheap (comparitivly) and both will have enough terrain to push you other half but not be wasting it. I did both of them on my 2nd and 3rd holidays and I think that is the perfect time for them. After that you need somewhere a bit bigger. I always find apartments cheaper and think of them first, just for being able to cook your own food....

...shit. I should be pushing chalets really as I'll be opening one in a couple of years! Off to Morzine for the season. Cannae ****ing wait!

whatnobeer - Member
Spent a week learning to snowboard in La Plagne 2 years ago, by the end of it I was linking turns and could get down all of the harder blue runs.

Last time I skied I got on ok, red runs and some blacks were fine and even some of easier off piste stuff.

Secondly, is it worth getting a set of discounted ski boots (if I go for them rather than the board)?

What standard is the rest of the group going to be and what are they riding?
If they are all snowboarding then you may have more fun on a board, but not necessarily if they are all quick and you're not.

Secondly, yes buy some boots. The determining factor is what do you want to do more in the future, ski or board? Buy the appropriate pair. Definitely worth picking your own up before the season starts though, 2 times renting is about the same as a new pair and they will be much nicer.

There are 15 of us, a mix of abilities but mostly seasoned skiers with a couple of boarders. So either way would be ok, got to admit, I'm leaning more towards the skis....

That said, anyone care to point me in the direction of a good deal on ski boots? Quite a lot of choice around the £100-£150 mark in the sales.

I think go with the skis. It does take a lot for me to say it because I am an avid snowboarder and always try to convince people to go sideways....but you need to make the most of your week away. Get to Snow and Rock and Ellis Bingham to try on some boots and chat to the staff. They know their shit. The technology changed so much each year that most people on here or other places on the interest will give you advice based on reviews and experiences of older models so it's pretty irrelevant.

Booked. The same resort as the last few times, but its pretty and we need the rather excellent child care. So Les Gets it is.

Easter so I'm hoping for a season like this last, or it's the bus to Avoiriaz on a regular basis, but tied to school holidays now and February half term with our youngest at 3 yrs didn't appeal.

Easter is pretty late this year isn't it? Deep down I'm hoping that my tax bill isn't as bad as I'm fearing in January and then I may be able to afford a last minute few days away over Easter too.....I'm in the advanced stages of negotiations with Mrs B over booking my solo trip to Tignes for Feb half-term. I reckon that one more evening of moaning should do the trick 🙂

whatnobeer - I think you'll be fine skiing. It will be a bit like getting back on your bike.
Do have lessons though, they will stop you from getting into bad habits and with the equipment we have nowadays (not sure when you last skied but skis are easier to turn) you may have to relearn a few things. Also it's very easy to be pushed along by friends, who may not have the real skills to help you catch up as quickly.

Great, cheers folk. Sounds like getting back on the skis will be the way to go. Been about 10 years when I think about it, surprising its been that long! Might pop over to the snow dome place in Glasgow, will let me check out some boots etc at Ellis Brigham and have a feel for what the new kit is like.

Also it's very easy to be pushed along by friends, who may not have the real skills to help you catch up as quickly.

Hell yes! I see so many people in fridges and on the piste with much better friends/partners trying to teach them. Utter dead loss every time!

Lessons is awsumz, no matter what level you're at!

Lessons is awsumz, no matter what level you're at!

Skier

Yep. Boarders are just too kool for skool, innit? No need to learn, etc....

(Blue touchpaper lit, retires to lunch at the pub)

Nah, just took enough lessons to get me round the mountain nicely. If I took anymore lessons I might be tempted to do something stupid like half pipe and I'd only hurt myself.