[Closed] The scheme

I grew up in Kilmarnock. Grim.

I went to school with Marvin. Grimmer.

It's not exactly the best advert for our country 😕

That old fruit, is unfortunate for you.

Still, onwards and upwards eh?

Bullet seems nice.

Car crash tv of the highest order!

Bob out of curiosity, how old are you and marvelous marvin? he looks in his 60s

Fair play to the family trying to keep their kids on the right road. Im so glad/fortunate that I dont have to live in those circumstances,there is no way Id survive more than a week!!

I've never seen this but i feel like i should download it.

not available from website
born there but not my scheme .. I have happy memories of mine as a kid but it is a shit hole now.

somebody has to have torrented it as it sounds like such a fine piece of television.

Bob out of curiosity, how old are you and marvelous marvin? he looks in his 60s

I'm 33 and if I remember correctly, though it's hard to be certain as he was off more than he was there, I think he was the year below me. Routinely picked on and abused at school, though not by me, and you can't help but wonder if that helped shape his future. 🙁

I can never decide if it's an interesting documentary bringing attention to the problems in such places, or if it's just voyeuristic well off folk mentally masturbating over how scummy some people can be and in turn how good they are.

Can't stand watching it - while I've never grown up in that sort of place I'm aware they exist and the sort of stuff that goes on there, but I don't want to watch it on TV regardless - not exactly a way of life that needs promotion IMO.

poverty porn
still, loved that burberry quilt
and quote of the show had to be the poetic
"he has to choose
it's me or the blues" which would make you think there was musical connotations, but no

We've seen all of this before with TV shows like 90210 and The OC. As much as I confess to enjoying the voyeurism, I wish this show would stop focusing on the rich and successful members of Scottish society and highlight the issues faced by those who aren't quite so fortunate.

I think you've missed the point. This is aspirational tv.. If you work hard enough, this too can be yours.

EDIT : oops sorry, that should have been "work the system"

At least while this is airing they are leaving someone else alone.

As much as I confess to enjoying the voyeurism, I wish this show would stop focusing on the rich and successful members of Scottish society and highlight the issues faced by those who aren't quite so fortunate.

I didn't realise that Scotland still had it's own royal family tbh.

First time they showed this series it only made it to episode 2 or maybe 3 and then they pulled it for some reason 😕

I had a job years ago that involved a lot of work in the "scheme" featured in the show and a lot of work involved those less fortunate residents. I've seen stuff that would bring tears to a glass eye and it used to be a real hole, although a quick jaunt through streetview suggests that visually at least, it's radically improved since the last time I was there about 13 years ago.

First time they showed this series it only made it to episode 2 or maybe 3 and then they pulled it for some reason

Court case involving one of the featured residents

Ho hum - I heard it was pulled because the BBC felt people were watching it to point and laugh at the poor people. Poverty Porn. as described above

Its funny yet horrifying at the same time

They pulled it cause some of the characters were part of an ongoing case to go through the courts, and so could of prejudiced opinion ( it was something like that )

while I've never grown up in that sort of place I'm aware they exist and the sort of stuff that goes on there, but I don't want to watch it on TV regardless - not exactly a way of life that needs promotion IMO.

I think you'll find it exists more than you think - its the people I deal with on a day to day basis. I do agree though, that promoting it is not the best. Marv has been seen to sign ciggies in Killie town centre cause he's allegedly famous ..... go figure.

Haven't seen this programme yet. Is it the same as that Channel 4 documentary Shameless that used to be on.

Its a fly on the wall documentary about a scheme in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire. Basically shows various families / people who are essentially at the lower end of the social scale and how they live. Whilst not necessarily a true representative of how everyone in a scheme lives, its pretty much shows the attitudes of quite a few and how they live.

Junkyard;Where in Kilmarnock were you from? I lived in Lochnagar road, Riccarton till I was seven. Went back to Kilmarnock about 5yo for an interview for the first time in maybe 15 years, broke my heart. It had died. My Gran used to live in the street that the police station is on,beside the river.When we were wee we used to go to the park at the end of that road and look at the exotic birds they used to keep there. It's a shame,but there is is a scheme like that in every town in the UK,and people like that as well.

Junkyard;Where in Kilmarnock were you from? I lived in Lochnagar road, Riccarton till I was seven. Went back to Kilmarnock about 5yo for an interview for the first time in maybe 15 years, broke my heart. It had died. My Gran used to live in the street that the police station is on,beside the river.[b]When we were wee we used to go to the park at the end of that road and look at the exotic birds they used to keep there. [/b]It's a shame,but there is is a scheme like that in every town in the UK,and people like that as well.

Christ, I'd forgotten all about that. That's Howard Park you're talking about.

So it is. I remember now,and the shoe factory was on the other side of the river from the flat my gran was in.

Saxone shoes.

Gone now, demolished for a tesco, which was one of three tescos in the town although they have sold one

More food for thought in dalmarnock, sighthill and paddys market.

http://www.chrisleslie.com/film/documentary/

Part 2 on now BBC Scotland. Southerners might need the subtitles

watching it on iPlayer, its grim.