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Who is interested in a bunch of overpaid idiots anyway?

deadslow - that's a whole other arguement (I mean, are they really overpaid?. The 'idiots' thing is a given)

I have never heard the football season started by someone going "on your marks, get set, go" ... so it quite clearly is not a race

Now unless you're talking about the top flight of domestic Rugby Union.........

Who is interested in a bunch of overpaid idiots anyway?

Erm... me, for one. And just the other few billion who make up the global TV audience.

And as for whether its a race or not? I'll go with whatever Stewart Hall says it is

deadslow - Member

Who is interested in a bunch of overpaid idiots anyway?

Please give us a list of five subjects you like.
Then we can turn up on related threads and make pointless, annoying and idiotic remarks, just like yours. 😀

Ta.

(Please don't let this turn into a "Reasons I hate football thread" ... )

I briefly resumed my interest in football last night and watched MotD for the first time in ages. I saw City win a game with 11 men on the pitch instead of nine. Lescott should have been sent off. Balotelli should be having a rather lengthy ban after his stamp.

What was even more saddening, was Dixon desperately trying to defend it on MotD. Why does nobody ever get in these players' faces after a game, show them the VT and ask them to explain what they've done? It bloody disgusts me.

Reasons why I hate football? I don't. I love it. I think it's a fantastic game. But it's rotten, not to the core maybe, but not far off.

(Please don't let this turn into a "Reasons I hate football thread" ... )

or a 'Rugby is great' thread.

Overpaid?

Its like the going rate, free market ting, innit?

There'll be a point where, mathematically, it's not possible for any other team to surpass the points that one team has scored, so the title could be won (x) number games before the end of the season. Somebody who gives a **** could no doubt work out, say, how many consecutive wins would be needed in a 19-team, 38-game season to achieve this feat. This process could be described as a race. So, a mathematical race exists and there'll be an equation to describe it; I just don't have the number smarts to work it out.

The 'idiots' thing is a given)

Why is that? Please explain...

Rugby is great.

@terrahawk. 🙂

(only joking, I love both)

Sadly dd, I agree.
I think cricket and rugby are both going the same way.

If you introduce enough cash into anything, it gets corrupted.
Human nature innit?

However, really enjoying the prem this year anyway - nice to see Spurs doing well and I reckon the run in (sorry joao3v16, irrelevant analogy alert)
will be a bit of a nailbiter.

Not as interesting as the shenanigans at the top of league 1, but then, what is? 🙂

90 points is the mythical golden figure. 30 for survival in the premiership.

Not set in stone, but a general benchmark. I agree with you about yesterday DD. City should have been down to 9 men. 2 shocking challenges. I doubt the FA will be leaving it at that for either of them. I suspect the ban-stick will be visiting both shortly, if there's any justice

And I do hope this means that Mancini will now sit the **** down and stop waving his imaginary cards at refs. They got away with murder yesterday

Overpaid? The Premier League is close to a Marxist distribution of wages - e.g. the labour gets most of it.

It isn't quite as socialist as the NFL, however, where players get a big chunk of the income, plus merchandising monies are pooled the shared between teams, wages are capped, and the draft system is designed to even out things.

if it is not a race I can safely assume there will be no winners right.

Ps all your arguments apply to the skiing season or Motor car racing..perhaps you just need to understand what a season is?

Is the title decided as the first team to do anything at all?

DD is right i hope the FA punish them both ...not for any Man u bias but I think there is a reasonable to good chance of a Mancini type Keagan rant at some point this season , tbh I would just love that 😉

It was a cracking match though Defoe what were you doing
Wenger..what were you doing with that substitution

Indeed it is. And the TV rights are sold for squillions of pounds. The people who are at the business end, doing the work are getting the lions share of it. What's wrong with that?

😆

40 points is considered the safety net, plenty of teams get relegated with quite a bit over 30 points every year.

As for the race etc, does it really irritate you that much? It's just a saying.

is the title decided as the first team to do anything at all? No.

Of course it is ,its the first team to get amass enough points so they cant be overtaken

is the title decided as the first team to do anything at all? No.

Of course it is ,its the first team to get amass enough points so they cant be overtaken

Nah, it's the team finishing the scheduled season with more points than any other ... there's no 'race' to get an insurpassable number of points as quickly as possible ... something like that anyway

What's wrong with that?

Well, nothing really, but it's a tiny proportion of mainly ignorant* men earning sums of money that remove them from all sense of reality. This is demonstrated by their insolent atittudes on the pitch, their attitudes towards officials, their fans, women, etc etc etceterA. It's not quite the fair distribution of wages and profits that you're making it out to be.

Smaller wages. Cheaper jerseys. Cheaper tickets. Cheaper food and drink at the stadia. Cheaper TV subscriptions. That's what I'd like to see.

*EDIT: removed "uneducated" as may have been taken wrongly.

CaptJon - that quite a comment about Marxism. On that basis, banking comes a close second but at least income in banking > costs unlike many football clubs!!

I have always though of football as the complete opposite. It is almost a perfect negative tax. Take money from relatively low income households (excuse the generalisation) and concentrate it into the hands of a very small minority of folk. And don't even spare a thought for the shareholders in passing.

Truly extraordinary industry and the finances of many of the top clubs would simply exclude them from operating in most normal industries.

Agree that it would be fun to see a keeganesque rant from Mancini and hope the book gets thrown at Balotelli. What was Lee Dixon on last night?????

if it is not a race I can safely assume there will be no winners right

'competition' generates a winner ... doesn't have to be a race

Don't be silly its quite obviously going to be Bolton now seeing as how the tide has turned...... 😯

there's no 'race' to get an insurpassable number of points as quickly as possible ... something like that anyway

You're denying it and/or failing to understand it; but that doesn't make it untrue.

Nah, it's the team finishing the scheduled season with more points than any other

How often does the [s]title race[/s] competition go down to the last game of the season? Every season? No. Why is that?

cheers binners it is how I imagine many STW as they type 😉

How often does the title race competition go down to the last game of the season? Every season? No. Why is that?

If a team gets an unsurpassable pointage by the end of March (for example), do they therefore stop playing for the rest of the season and just wait for everyone else to finish?

Or do they finish the rest of the competition despite having already 'won'?

Doesn't sound like any race I've ever seen.

Usually, once you've won you stop - this is what I've seen people like Paula Radcliffe and Usain Bolt do.

I'd love to see someone tell Paula to keep on running until all the other competitors have finished 🙂

If a team gets an unsurpassable pointage by the end of March (for example), do they therefore stop playing for the rest of the season?

No; but the prize has been achieved and the race is effectively over.

and just wait for everyone else to finish?

They [u]could[/u] all stop playing, but the race for 2nd, 3rd, 4th (and so on) is likely to still be ongoing, as it does in the kind of race that you find easier to understand. Is it the presence of a ball that is confusing you? If the people just ran about like at the olympics (throwing/jumping games excluded) would it be easier for you understand?

Er, it is entirely possible for it to be a league and also a race.

Or are we going for STW oversimplification again?

Anyway, my non-footballing friends didn't leave until after the game yesterday, so I was rather gutted to hear 5Live tell me that King had messed it up in the final minute of extra time.

OMITN (slightly deflated at the growing gap twixt spurs and City)

Or do they finish the rest of the competition despite having already 'won'?

Doesn't sound like any race I've ever seen.

Usually, once you've won you stop - this is what I've seen people like Paula Radcliffe and Usain Bolt do.

how many more would you like?

They cant stop as they may be playing teams who could finish second or get relegated

Who is interested in a bunch of overpaid idiots anyway?

Race - it's just a figure of speech. Now get out on your bike. It's nice and sunny today 😀