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 jimw
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For the first time since my teenage years ( quite some time ago) i didn't watch even 1second of F1 coverage this year. I gave up because I found I was falling asleep during the races and I got fed up with the politics and the 'characters' in the "sport"
I haven't missed it at all. So from a purely selfish point of view........ I don't mind what happenes to the TV rights.

I'm with PJM1974 on this one regarding Sky


 
Posted : 28/11/2015 12:16 am
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The Sky F1 coverage is pretty bloody good though....


 
Posted : 28/11/2015 1:29 am
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switch to formula e on itv4 . Its always sunny when they race and they have fan boost.

You're being ironic right? It's a small step on from the push to pass systems available in F1 and it's tragic. S**t like that is just trying to make motorsport into pure entertainment when so many people are losing faith in it for precisely that reason.


 
Posted : 28/11/2015 2:26 am
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The Sky F1 coverage is pretty bloody good though....

You're joking, right? 😕 I've had the 'fortune' of watching it at my parent's place once or twice and observed the following:

The lead anchor (can't even remember his name..) is so wooden it hurts. At least Perry has a bit of personality about her.
Brundle is good still but the chemistry between him and Crofty is dire, far too many stagnent pauses and fake excitement.
The graphics do my head in, far too American in flavour.
The constant ad breaks in the pre and post shows means they struggle to analyse anything fully.
Hill and Herbert never come alive as a duo, too bland. Jordan gets your attention at least, although he is cringeworthy most of the time!
That theme tune is dire.

Just feels like they're trying to do what the BBC did so well before by poaching the staff and then stretching it to fit an extra 2 hours or so.


 
Posted : 28/11/2015 8:03 am
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I paid a one off fee to watch Hamo's winning race. I wouldn't pay again. I fear F1 is going one way.

Formula E is hideous. The cars hit every branch of the ugly tree and it feels like you took sandwiches into work on the day all your colleagues elect to eat out.

The coverage of WRC has lost something- the presenters/producers sap its energy.

Bernie/CVC need to walk away before they ruin it.


 
Posted : 28/11/2015 8:38 am
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The constant ad breaks in the pre and post shows

ITV put them in the middle of the race!


 
Posted : 28/11/2015 8:50 am
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Formula E is hideous.

Remember the first ?b?u?m?p?e?r? ?c?a?r?s? Formula E race – Beijing 2014


 
Posted : 28/11/2015 9:06 am
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rtl adverts arent much better but at least they have a small window showing the race whilst the adverts are on.
Simon lazyby is awful and has the charisma and enthusiasm of a stone. Hill basically suffers the same problem that footballers have in a post match interview ( state the obvious sound like they are reading a script.)
The last full time bbc coverage was the best with humphries and the the sky crew


 
Posted : 28/11/2015 2:43 pm
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Vettel at the back of the grid should bring some spice to the race tomorrow 😀 Pity I can't see the Merc's being allowed to tussle it out, hopefully a safety car or two should spice things up..

ITV put them in the middle of the race!

At least with them I didn't have to pay a subscription too!


 
Posted : 28/11/2015 3:47 pm
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ITV put them in the middle of the race!

At the moment that would actually make things more exciting


 
Posted : 28/11/2015 5:27 pm
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rtl adverts arent much better but at least they have a small window showing the race whilst the adverts are on.

for some adverts, but not all. they have a countdown timer too, saying when it's going to return to the action. one ad break is huge, of the order of about 4-5 laps some times, although I have known one to be 7 laps long (ie ca. 10% of the actual race!)

the best thing is when RTL have advert, Radio 5 Live still gives you an update while you go make coffee, lunch or take a /

unless R5L have decided that England cricket match is more important.


 
Posted : 28/11/2015 7:52 pm
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How do you mean?

If Bernie sticks to his own rules, Red Bull/Renault/Lotus folds and steps out of the ring, what will Bernie be left with ....... although maybe he can see where it's all going and just wants to lay the blame at someone else's door?


 
Posted : 28/11/2015 11:29 pm
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Posted : 29/11/2015 4:02 pm
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^^ This.

A largely forgettable season, the only real stories being:

Honda being so far behind every other engine.
Verstappen being that good.
Red Bull spectacularly throwing all the toys out then having to back-track.

Normally I start counting down the days to the next season, can't think of a reason why I should this time round.


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 4:24 pm
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nice nap this afternoon between laps 10- 40. As pointed out the drivers will always lose if they take the strategy into their own hands. Lewis is a great driver but as shown he needs the team behind him to achieve the best results ( I hope Bono gets a hefty bonus this year for a good job managing his driver).

Nice drive from Vettel and raikonnen. Verstappen getting a taste of wheel to wheel action ( please stop moaning about being driven off the track.) Crashtor doing what he does best this season which is DNFs.
Button seemed to have a lot of fun on track more than Alonso I see.

If RBR have a 1 year engine deal they really are pinning their hopes on the engine regulation change so they can fit a ford focus st 1.6 in the back for 2017. I see a repeat of this year next


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 5:13 pm
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and lets not forget i said it months ago - alonso will not be in a McLaren in 2016.


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 7:39 pm
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alonso will not be in a McLaren in 2016.

He was sounding pretty grumpy when he was threatening to give up if there isn't a safety car.


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 9:08 pm
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Can't wait for the season review show. Don't know how they'll manage to fit in all the action!?


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 9:15 pm
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Another big factor for 2016 is the fact there are only 2 test sessions and IIRC they're only a few days apart. Not much time for any real work between them so it'll be run what u brung


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 5:35 am
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Didn't watch this last race/ procession, however, can anyone tell me what lap Alonso got the third fastest lap time please? Only 2 and a bit tenths slower than Hamiltons lap time and 2 tenths slower than Vettel.


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 7:02 am
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Didn't watch this last race/ procession, however, can anyone tell me what lap Alonso got the third fastest lap time please? Only 2 and a bit tenths slower than Hamiltons lap time and 2 tenths slower than Vettel.

I didn't know that he had. Where did you read that?


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 8:13 am
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He put super sticky tyres on a few laps from the end. Combined with very low fuel probably did it.

Commentators said he was just having fun but maybe he was showing others that he is still fast given a good car.


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 8:35 am
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Not much time for any real work between them so it'll be run what u brung

And here lies F1's problem - as it stands whoever gets it right at the start of the season wins everything.


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 8:45 am
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…can anyone tell me what lap Alonso got the third fastest lap time please?
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He put super sticky tyres on a few laps from the end.

Lap 52 of 55

Selected quote from f1fanatic.co.uk:

McLaren allowed Fernando Alonso to turn his engine up to “full deployment” as he made a late bid to claim the fastest lap of the race in Abu Dhabi.

Alonso also switched to super-soft tyres for his run at the end of the race which left him 0.279 seconds off the quickest time…

“The results were more than somewhat encouraging. He carved his fastest lap on the race’s 52nd tour – 1’44.796s – and only two drivers bettered that: Mercedes’ Lewis Hamilton and Ferrari’s Sebastian Vettel.”

Alonso close to fastest lap with “full deployment”

Good comment at the bottom of the page:

“So an F1 car going as fast as it possibly can has become so much of a rarity that it has it’s own news story.”


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 9:08 am
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"I don't know the big picture and ultimately you have to rely on the engineers to give you the optimum strategy," he told reporters after the race."

...........Lewis......... - you gotta laugh - if you want to rely on the race engineers then stop bitchin at them on team radio that they are doing it wrong and blaming them after the race, get faster, get pole.


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 9:58 am
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@legend = review show

the beeb will put on the full ar*e lick of hamilton as he writes for them on the bbc website anyway, and will probably feature "exclusive" interview with him on the "review show" with his usual "pretending to be humble" talk from his monte carlo mansion while showing off his newly repaired supercar. 😉


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 10:05 am
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What gets me is Hamilton's complete lack of humility when he doesn't win, his body language yesterday was like that of a spoilt child. I don't like people like that (and I know he couldn't care less what I think) but it's a shame that I have to root for his team mate each GP.

Hope that Mclaren bounce back next year with a better power plant from Honda, the Alonso lap showed a glimmer of hope and the chassis is recognized as being very good so fingers crossed, would be nice to see Button and Alonso challenging the Mercs and Ferraris


 
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I wouldn't pin too much hope on McL beyond hopefully being there if Merc and maybe Ferrari cock up until 2017. Not to mention that with Ferrari's wings clipped in terms of having Haas do a load of extra development for them they'll find it harder to close the gap.

Still, now Hamilton's won his three which I think he deserves, it'd be good if NR could take the race to him next season though I'm not really holding my breath - it sounds like LH has been partying non-stop since winning and I expect that things will be back to normal next season.

That said the cars do seem to be getting worse for overtaking so maybe if NR can keep up the good qualifying, he could keep ahead of LH more consistently. And also if Ferrari can't mix it up which I think would hand the advantage to LH.


 
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Been out all day, so thanks for the replies re my earlier question of Alonso's quick lap. I haven't read anything else as yet, so how does it compare to Hamilton and Vettel in terms of what tyres they were using and which lap they set their quick laps on?

After all, if they set their quickest laps earlier in the race and on the harder compound tyres, then Alonso's time becomes academic and possibly sabbatical inducing.


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 6:22 pm
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Hamilton's fastest must have been the prime tyre, nearish to the end, when there was "Strat 6" and "Strat 10" tit-for-tat (or being told how to drive?) going on in the Mercs?
Vettel's fastest would have been supersoft near the end?


 
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Sounds more like a PR exercise to get sponsors in. Reality slower than the Merc & Ferrari and on faster tyres, so hard to see much improvement other than the PU actually lasted 6 laps!!!


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 6:38 pm
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That said the cars do seem to be getting worse for overtaking

Yes, Max Verstappen in particular seems to find it hard.


 
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Lucky that he addressed exactly that point at the last race then...


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 10:35 pm
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My predictions for the 2016 season:

- Hamilton will come back with hair plugs
- Rosberg will come back with a shaved head and punch him in the mouth
- Kimi will stop drinking and start winning races
- One of Eddie Jordan's predictions will actually come true, prompting David Coulthard to pull off the mask and reveal an astonished Bernie Ecclestone. Who will then shake a fist and angrily mutter something about 'you pesky kids'.
- Grosjean will come from out of nowhere to bag a podium and/or a win
- Suzi Perry will ask a question by following a meaningless outburst with the qualifying-but-now-displaced preamble (for example: 'Engines! Er..so...are you going to have any for next year Christian?')
- David Coulthard will use the following words and phrases:
'Dirty air'
'New boots on'
'Tankslapper'
'Well, two into one won't go'
'Almighty lock up on the brakes'
- Vettel will finally have that finger taken off by a very (very!) well paid sniper


 
Posted : 01/12/2015 8:51 pm
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You forgot
"Over-rotation"
"Under-rotation"


 
Posted : 01/12/2015 10:32 pm
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So true!


 
Posted : 01/12/2015 10:38 pm
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'on this day in history...'


 
Posted : 01/12/2015 11:30 pm
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- Verstappen will put the car in the barriers almost every race as other drivers get wise and his beginners luck runs out.


 
Posted : 01/12/2015 11:48 pm
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'Engines! Er..so...are you going to have any for next year Christian?'

No, they'll either be pedalling like on a kindergarten trike, or walk along like in flintsones.
They will still beat McHonda.


 
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ohhhhh i love trolling - i mean predictions...

Nico will win 2016 title
With no Lauda to sing his praises - and Merc favouring Nico, it will be Lewis' last season with Merc as he just cannot handle getting beat and will have to blame the team.
will be Kimi's last season at ferrari
will be Horners last season at RBR
will be Dennis lasts year at McLaren
will be alonso's first season in the WEC 🙂
will be a bbc pure highlights package - no suzi or eddie (yay!!!)
FIA and Bernie will crumble under pressure from teams to drop the "cheap engine" despite getting an external contract with a supplier who will then attempt to sue them.


 
Posted : 02/12/2015 9:31 pm
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Where's Lauda going?


 
Posted : 02/12/2015 9:43 pm
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Horner to McLaren in 2017


 
Posted : 02/12/2015 9:50 pm
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That would be an interesting move. And Brawn to Red Bull?


 
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I've already said too much


 
Posted : 02/12/2015 11:06 pm
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My prediction, Alonso will take a sabbatical in 2016 - no point having a driver on £40m running around at the back of the grid, better to use the money for development.


 
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