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Let's not forget he's at work at the moment...so won't be here to stick up for himself.
Darcy, lest we forget...
The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.
😉
I do find the ravings of the little Englanders amusing on this. To call them little Englanders for their small minded attitudes is not racist.
No it's not, and I agree with TJ on this point. In fact, Stoner, Flashy and Z-11 are all perfect examples of 'Little Englanders'; people so ignorant of the world beyond their own cosy little bubble that they think their opinions are the only ones worth considering. People who, in spite of decent educations, are still woefully ignorant of the lives and experiences of others; people they are often quick to belittle and dismiss as unimportant. People who time and time again demonstrate ignorant, stuck-up insular attitudes which betray their prejudice towards others who don't measure up to their own standards.
One interesting thing I've noticed on here, is that all the 'Lefties' seem to be amicable friendly types who often talk of going for rides with other forum members, yet the Little Englanders seldom do this, preferring, most probably, to stick to their 'own kind' and seem loathe to actually mix with others. Funny, that.
See; agree or disagree with TJ, but he does at least have the balls to stand up for what he believes in, and is prepared to meet others, have a laugh and that. Who's ever met Flashy? He's too scared people might see through that pathetic faux-toff ponce persona.
So, slag TJ off all you like, but he's more of a man than the rest of you put together.
EURO, EU superstate, European govt, United State of European nations whatever ... I can see them coming ... 😆
p/s: only those that need handouts will be benefited the most while the rest hard-working ones feed them for the rest of their lives.
No it's not, and I agree with TJ on this point. In fact, Stoner, Flashy and Z-11 are all perfect examples of 'Little Englanders'; people so ignorant of the world beyond their own cosy little bubble that they think their opinions are the only ones worth considering
patronising little turd.
And just to save you from the effort, you can say you won the argument because I resorted to a personal insult if you like. I really dont care. I think you're patronising little turd and I feel better when I type it out a few times.
In fact the only time they get together is to form a bullying mob.
I guess when the nearest you've ever been to a fight is putting a gun or a pack of hounds between you and your prey, then cowardice comes naturally. 😐
EDIT: Cheez, they're all coming out of the woodwork now.
With all due respect to the participants- this is an exceptionally awful thread.
patronising little turd.
Heh heh! There you go! The man who is brave enough to insult people on here, yet doesn't have the balls to meet up in real life for a pint to discuss things! 😆
Come on Stoner, what you scared of? A scrote like me? Surely a mayn of your education and intellect can outdo some pleb from a council estate?
Ha ha!
Go on; I'll even nick the money out of your wallet to buy you a pint. 😉
people so ignorant of the world beyond their own cosy little bubble that they think their opinions are the only ones worth considering. People who, in spite of decent educations, are still woefully ignorant of the lives and experiences of others; people they are often quick to belittle and dismiss as unimportant. People who time and time again demonstrate ignorant, stuck-up insular attitudes which betray their prejudice towards others who don't measure up to their own standards.
Whoah, Pot, meet Kettle! 😆
And just to save you from the effort, you can say you won the argument because I resorted to a personal insult if you like. I really dont care. I think you're patronising little turd and I feel better when I type it out a few times.
Ooh, has someone wet their knickers? Ah, diddums! 😆
Eee, they don't like it up 'em, do they, eh?
So, it's ok to insult and slag TJ off, but when someone has a pop at you, you get all cross and have a little tantrum. Never mind, nursey will be along to wipe your botty for you...
Thanks for proving me right, Stoner. 😉
My work here is done....
EU = polishing turd?
End of.
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chewkw, have this;
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Superb!
My work here is done....
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"The caterpillar is almost dead, and then its last goal in life is to create a cocoon-like house for the vulnerable wasp larvae."
the 'Lefties' seem to be amicable friendly types
Sorry fred, that is complete tripe. The "lefties" are often the most vitriolic, intolerant and aggresive on the forum. Your post being case in point.
Regarding the 'world famous crescent' photo, this is a world-famous crescent:
i thought the bolton one predated the bath one and that the later was based on the former. is it the other way round?
i thought the bolton one predated the bath one and that the later was based on the former. is it the other way round?
To be honest, I don't really know. I do know, however, which I would rather live on! 😉
Don't be so sure flashy, have you ever tried to park on the bath crescent? Bloody murder.
Surely a mayn(sic) of your education and intellect can outdo some pleb from a council estate?
Public school educated pleb though eh Fred 😉
(OK, for a very short time I believe.)
Elfinsafety - Member.
Ooh, has someone wet their knickers? Ah, diddums!Eee, they don't like it up 'em, do they, eh?
You been upsetting people again fella ?
So what happened to the new, tamed, "mod-approved" Elfinman ?
Good lad...........I never did like your new docile version.
many of the bath ones are pokey little flats these days so they will be comparable to your bedsit 😉
the 'Lefties' seem to be amicable friendly types
I have met Stoner - bought a balance bike from him. He seemed perfectly amiable in real life. Sadly I knocked myself out on Nan bield on the ride so not much of that day is recalled 😳
I have met Stoner - bought a balance bike from him. He seemed perfectly amiable in real life. Sadly I knocked myself out on Nan bield on the ride so not much of that day is recalled
I have really got to stop drinking so much because I dont recall that at all 😉
(really, we've not met JY so dont feel any compunction to defend me from the patronising turd)
I am astounded at the vitriol aimed at TJ.
So can someone please explain to me, what is wrong with the citizens of a country wanting democratic self rule?
He seemed perfectly amiable in real life
Stoner is indeed a top geezer......a right proper gentleman in fact.
Although I've long suspected that he is a bit of a closet leftie (in the bourgeois liberal/One Nation sense of the word)
He is also considerably taller than an elfin. And iirc, he has rather large feet.
i am confused now then 😕
fair enough then I shall let the ultra left defend you and your feet 😉
thing is I reckon ernie is so far left wing he comes all the way round to the centre right again 😉
Ah puke.
It's turned into a love-in now. People are even bigging up those they've never even met.
You been upsetting people again fella ?
Who, me? No, not me.
Love the way Stoner calls me 'patronising'. This, from a person who claimed I had the 'intellectual capacity of a muddy puddle' recently. 😆
Doesn't strike me as a 'gentleman' at all. Lacks manners, and, dare I say it, class.
(Wonders why Little England has now gone quiet...)
[b]backhander[/b] - MemberSorry fred, that is complete tripe. The "lefties" are often the most vitriolic, intolerant and aggresive on the forum. Your post being case in point.
Hmm. Care to remind us what exactly it was that you said to SimonFBarnes, that got you banned, a couple of months ago? Wasn't very nice, was it?
Nah yer Lefties on here seem to go on rides with other STWers, and come across as quite friendly and caring, imo. As do some of the Righties, in all fairness. But there are a number of right-wing Little Englanders who are pretty snobbish and prejudiced towards others, it must be said. And don't seem quite as sociable. I don't see the same level of prejudice amongst those who seem to espouse more Left-Wing views.
I find it a shame that the likes of Stoner and Flashy won't come and have a pint with me. Might enhance their lives. Oh whell, what can you do?
Personally I'm more than happy for anyone to come and discuss things face to face. I never say owt to anyone on here I wouldn't say to their face. I won't hide behind a keyboard.
I'd rather not have anything to do with that Ernie though. He's horrible and mean and nasty. 😥
But there are a number of right-wing Little Englanders who are pretty snobbish and prejudiced towards others
No, I won't have that.
Prejudiced, snobbish and right wing he's proved himself on this thread but there's no way that TJ is pro England. 😕
A quick post from work.
Calling some of you Little englanders is not racist. It is not the same as smelly french or tight scots.
simplty because it does not refer to all english in a derogatory way. it referes to a subset of people witht the "little englander" attitude so clearly expressed on here.
its a shame some of you are too hard of thinking to understand what racism is as why " lttle englander" uis not a racist term.
its a slur all right - but one based on small minded and parochial attitudes not on race. therefore it is not racist. Its not a negaive sterotyping based on race, its a mild insult based on attitude.
Understand?
I think it was a fair comment, TJ. Interesting how none of them have attempted to respond in an intelligent manner...
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its a mild insult
TopTip.........beef up the insult by preceding it with the words "sour faced"
Wow theres some serious bitching going on in this thread. I have learnt something though. Bolton has got a crescent ala Bath. Don't know about which was first, but Royal Crescent is a World Heritage Site like Stonehenge isn't it?
In reference to Scotland's independence, as far as I can tell, the Scots are welcome to it. If this makes me a 'little Englander' then so be it. I don't think it'll make a drop of difference to my life. Of course, it'll never happen, the Union is so ingrained into the Scots, English and the Welsh that its just not possible to gain full independence. Within my lifetime at least.
pete - not at all - the "little englanders" are the ones with closed minds and parocial attitudes. Live and let live is not indicative of the little englander.
Elfinwotsit -
Care to remind us what exactly it was that you said to SimonFBarnes, that got you banned, a couple of months ago? Wasn't very nice, was it?
I seem to recall you got more than a little personal with him on a photo thread a few weeks back, until a sudden change of heart. Where are those black pots and kettles again?
Also, am I the only one to spot TJ's irony in saying "spot the irony in people who wish to keep the UK wanting to leave the EU", when all he's saying is "leave the UK, join the EU".
Very bizarre...
Calling some of you Little englanders is not racist. It is not the same as smelly french or tight scots.
In your eyes, maybe not, but then I don't see saying 'tight scot' as racist either, especially as most I know are usually the las with their wallet when a round of drinks is called (and that's from a 'tight northerner'). Preceeding 'little englander' with 'sour faced' does increase its insult potential somewhat...
Anyway, once Scotland's independent, what then? You could sell the world whisky and tourism, and some agricultural produce I suppose. You could also conceivably sell England some water and wind / wave / hydro power. But then what?
Oil's running out.
Your banks are toast (and if you're independent, we'll have the money back that was used to save them too, thanks)
You'll need an independent military and security force, not to mention many more new and exciting ministries to set up and run things (oh, and to be paid too)
I know your answer - to join the EU and take subsidy.
So, instead of being subsidised (or not, can't be bothered arguing with you over your massaged figures) by England, you'll be subsidised by England via an increase in English payments to the EU, then back to you. The ultimate irony of course being that as an Englishman yourself, you'll be an immigrant in a separate sovereign state.
TJ land really is a confusing place to be...
[s]Oil's running out[/s] Current methods of extracting oil are becoming less financially viable.
FTFY.
The Scots don't even remotely want independence, it's just the few that do make a big noise about it
A couple of years back the SNP held a 100 or so roadshows the length & breath of the country, called the 'Big Conversation' or something to talk about independence at grass roots level
The turnout was pitiful, something like 50 per roadshow event, no one was interested in the subject
[s]Oil's running out[/s] Current methods of extracting oil are becoming less financially viable.FTFY.
Forgive me if I am wrong but the investment needed to extract oil past 2020 is mind-boggling, would require huge tax breaks for the companies to even begin entertaining it and ultimately would lead to high fuel costs. Coupled with the maximum estimates if all oil could be extracted that it would satisfy 30% of the energy needs.
Doesn't Norway own most of the remaining North Sea oil reserves??
You could also conceivably sell England some water
no chance, they'll tow icebergs down the Thames first
NW is very wet, NE has Keilder, no powers to lay a pipeline through either area
"[s]Oil's running out[/s] Current methods of extracting oil are becoming less financially viable."FTFY.
What a moronic post. We are taking out a substance that is not being replaced. Ergo it is running out. Nothing to be fixed, except perhaps your intelligence...
Calling some of you Little englanders is not racist. It is not the same as smelly french or tight scots.simplty because it does not refer to all english in a derogatory way. it referes to a subset of people witht the "little englander" attitude so clearly expressed on here.
so by that logic, it's ok to refer to 'the smelly french' as long as you're only refering to the 'smelly ones' 💡
someone take that shovel off him.
Trail monkey am I supposed to be saying that all Englanders are small?
Do you understand what racism is?
"Little Englander" is by no means a racist term as it is not "negative sterotyping on grounds of race".
Are you really that hard of thinking?
Zokes - where did I say that I wanted independence? I didn't at all. I don't know how you work out some of the rest of the ridiculous things you say. Scotland is a net contributor to the UK and has been for many decades - this is incontrovertible.
Its pointless even attempting to discuss with people so hard of thinking who are incapable of reading what I wrote.
Are you really that hard of thinking?
rather be thick than a racist
Perhaps you should read....
[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Englander ]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Englander[/url]
I've been reading your wittering on this thread TJ. I also think that breaking up the Union would be a crap expensive idea. What does that make me? (careful now...)