[Closed] The European experiment is over.

The Germans will no longer have to grind their teeth about bailing out the rest of Europe

I find this is a funny quote taken from the OP's link , the German people/government were quite happy to accept financial aid from the rest of Europe when east and west were reunited.

'World famous'? I have no idea where on Earth that is, sorry. Looks quite impressive though. 🙁

Inside the Reichstag looks pretty funky:

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And they weren't mucking about when they built the Romanian Parliament, were they?? 😯

[i]'[b]Think[/b] in Russian..'[/i]

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I've stood outside that builing in Romania Fred. In the flesh its about as impresssive as a council high-rise

TJ's gone awfully quiet hasn't he? Perhaps he's reading the transcript of his glorious leaders 'Celtic Lion' speeches and planning a more Braveheart Approach to 'FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOOM' 😉

Bolton - architects did visit it for its beauty apparently. It is quite nice but I was just carrying on with the northern town hall themes
did you work out why whisk[s]E[/s]y was wrong ?

No, World Parliament buildings only please. We can do Town Halls another day.

Binners; what were you doing in Bucaresti? Trying to sell Hora? 😯

The Dutch Parliament in Den Haag looks very 'Dutch', which I think is good:

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Seeing as we're going off on Northern architectural tangents. How about this

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Apparently this building saved Manchester from a lot of Bombing during the second world war. Hitler had seen it as an architecture student visiting Manchester, and had pencilled it in as his northern office when he took over the country

It looks like it's got 'sunburnt'.

Very Northern, then. 😀

and had pencilled it in as his northern office when he took over the country

That would have been Hora's office next to the air con units, I would have thought

another vote for the budapest parliament
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as for the european experiment being over
i thought it was about altruism; germany and france etc willing to support the weaker economies and help build a better and stronger europe
riding this out will be a real test of character for them

what is it binners Victoria towers???
I asume that is the library top right
I have seen the one in Den Haag I was enjopying my democratic right to get stoned on the steps of a parliament 8)
they took the beer from me it was illegal to drin k on the streets ...proper civilized those Dutch

I think the best quote in all these sorry sagas was from the Iceland President who said that the reason Iceland is now better off than Ireland is because Iceland let the banks fail. Of course Iceland were then declared a terrorist state by the UK, but that's a small price worth paying surely? 😀

Its the Midland Hotel Junkyard. All the buildings are great round that part of town

Fred - I was in Bucharest people trafficing for Hora. He has to keep all his northern 'Massage Parlour's' stocked at Minimal cost, so he's expanded into recruitment drives in Eastern Europe.

I am merely the conduit for his tyrannical ambitiotns

yes was living the high life when in manchester all those years ago patchy memories but it was fun

The William TJ Wallace tag is a corker btw

🙂

Remind me TJ...

Why did the Scottish nation give up their sovereignty in the first place?

I mean, they had independence, their own government, everything...

Just what circumstances lead Scotland into the treaty and subsequent act of union in 1707? I mean, was it [i]forced[/i] upon you? or something to do with the huge financial mess you all got yourselves into last time you were responsible for your own finances...

just asking like 😉

I mean, was it forced upon you?

He's not Scottish. 😉

The William TJ Wallace tag is a corker btw

Yeah well you may find it funny, but I think it's quite rude actually, and cowardly. If people want to challenge TJ, then they should do it in a post, where their username will be visible.

I don't agree with TJ on this issue, as I can't see long-term benefits from such a schism, but I can appreciate his arguments, and respect his point of view. If people are just going to insult him via the tags, then that's just negative and stupid.

Just shows a lack of balls, to have to resort to using tags to insult someone. Not to mention an abuse of the tag facility.

Maybe all those who've posted insulting tags should receive a mandatory one-day ban. Maybe that would teach them not to be so rude. 🙁

It's still funny though, just cowardly too. I don't suppose that TJ could care less, mind.

I'll call him a Silicone Scot right to his face 🙂

EDIT - just added it to the tags too - seems onlyright 😉

Fred, I'm not sure that [i]you[/i] should be recommending bans 😀

I was going to post a tag but I'll just say it: Effin, you're missus is a slayg 🙂

Yeah well you may find it funny, but I think it's quite rude actually, and cowardly. If people want to challenge TJ, then they should do it in a post, where their username will be visible.

you rslicka fred. Mr Moral all of a sudden are we?

Fred, I'm not sure that you should be recommending bans

Actually, I'm a 'model of good behaviour'. [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-note-on-the-rules#post-2016573 ]Grumpy Mark said so[/url]. 🙂

No by all means discuss things, but hiding behind tags is just cowardly. Have the balls to say what you mean in a post. Or just keep schtum.

Mr Moral all of a sudden are we?

Well, I've never voted Tory, if that's what you mean... 😉

Could someone explain why we should be revelling in buildings designed to be the embodiment of control, power and the omnipotence of govt. over the people ?

I'm truly suprised at some of you.

It's an appreciation of architecture, rather than what the buildings represent, really.

Iceland has perhaps one of the most modest Parliamentary buildings:

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Welcome to SupineanarchistTrackWorld 😉

It's an appreciation of architecture, rather than what the buildings represent, really.

Take the meaning out of any work of art and you're left with a pretty shallow appreciation imho.
In the case of govt buildings, then the meaning is pretty hard to ignore.
As it happens I studied Pugin as part of my degree, there's all sorts of symbolism and meaning tied up in the H of P, a return to the old religion and all that stuff, personally it all looks rather faux to me. Give me a good old medieavel English church to rummage around. Now they've got layers of control, power and omnipotence over the people written all over them.

You guys still raving on.

A few points to ponder
1) nowhere did I say I was in favour of Scottish independence
2) the speech binners quotes says nothing about bank regulation policy so he clearly is just guessing
3) why are yo all so vehement on this issue? Surely if Scotland is a drain on the UK economy you would be better off without them.
4) Why so petulant and unpleasant?

TandemJeremy - Member
You guys still raving on.

Pot, kettle, etc, TJ! 😉

You guys still raving on.

No, we're all bored with it and now we're talking about something else, but you seem determined to drag it back up.

Why so petulant and unpleasant ?

A very good question. Why do you insist on calling people little Englanders because they have a contrary opinion to you on the issue ? I'd like to see you stereotype other nationalities then try to justify it.

TJ Approved Racism dontchaknow.

Erm, Tandem Jeremy not sure you are quite right with your claim of "[i]The south east are the subsidy junkies sucking money out of the rest of the UK, Scotland is a net contributor to the UK[/i]."

In 2008 it was reported that London and the South East paid £1 of every £6 collected in tax to fund services in other regions, and other reports consistently show that the SOuth East receives a lower level of central allocations to councils i.e. they receive a lower central contribution to services than the regions.

And before you say it, the study in the link below attributes all North Sea Oil revenue to Scotland - the south east still makes a net contribution to the North:

[url= http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article4842424.ece ]Times Article[/url]

Farmer John - there are a number of ways of doing these sums that show whatever you want. However in total government spending per head of population the south east is by far the highest.

A lot of what is reported as tax collected in the south east is in fact UK wide companies with HQs there.

There is a decades long history of fiddling the figures for Scotland. Have a look at McCrone report

Well I am off to work now.

I do find the ravings of the little Englanders amusing on this. To call them little Englanders for their small minded attitudes is not racist.

So why against the EU union but pro the UK union?

Oh thats OK then.
So tight-fisted scots,
smelly french and
stupid yanks are all fair game in TJland then?

I shall remember that next time you come out with the self-righteous hypocritical bumf you trip out about "casual racism on the forum" like you're some kind of ghandi.

[i]I do find the ravings of the little Englanders amusing on this. To call them little Englanders for their small minded attitudes is not racist.[/i]

Ah, so like the cowardly French, the thick Irish it's Ok providing I'm only referring to cowardly thick ones.

/bollocks! Too slow typing 🙂

I do find the ravings of the little Englanders amusing on this. To call them little Englanders for their small minded attitudes is not racist

I guess stereotyping is OK as long as you say it's OK ?

I guess stereotyping is OK as long as you say it's OK ?

For the Left, anything is OK as long as it's them doing it. 😉

Can we leave the Irish out of this please you racists?!

TJ:

A lot of what is reported as tax collected in the south east is in fact UK wide companies with HQs there.

Oh, you mean like Royal Bank of Scotland for example? Owner of National Westminster Bank?

I do find the ravings of the little Englanders amusing on this. To call them little Englanders for their small minded attitudes is not racist.

it's pretty rich for a parochial Scot to start muck slinging.

He may be parochial, but he's not a Scot. (IIRC, apologies if I am wrong)

To call them little Englanders for their small minded attitudes is not racist

Not racism, but an unpleasant and unreasonable prejudice, attitude and hostility toward England and English people.

And though you may now laugh it off, I think deep down, you mean it. 🙁

nope, you're right CFH. McTJ has the evangelical lilt of the converted.

So why against the EU union but pro the UK union?

Judge a tree by its fruit.

United Kingdom: first modern state, industrial revolution, empire. the end of thousands of years of internecine warfare, X-factor.

European Union: Jumped the shark with the Euro. They're all doomed now.

Best thing the Irish can do is hope the Germans leave the Euro and then it'll devalue and their debts will become a bit more manageable.

McTJ

Genuis! The Happy Meal of Scottish politics!