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Very much so. It's coming up to the first anniversary since purchase without any problems. Hoping that there isn't a huge insurance hike when the renewal turns up over summer.
My insurance just went up 15%, but it's not a huge amount overall so I'm not going to bother shopping around this time.
When we changed the Leaf for the Ioniq, I just changed the car on the policy and it stayed the same price - £850 or something. The renewal quote from Esure was something like £520, other quotes are similar.
I'm sure Thule love 'em 🤣🤣🤣
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I see what ewe did there 👍🏻
The Polestar is the most appealing of any electric car to my eyes, I just wish they did an estate version - that category seems to be missing totally with EVs, unless you go for a monstrously expensive Audi
Even the VW ID7 is more o a coupe rear than a proper estate, so if it wasn't hideous, I still wouldn't like it
BMW i5 is going to be available as a Touring - not cheap though.
Personally, I think the i4 is one of the best looking ones purely because it’s not trying hard to be something else. In the right colours, it looks great, inside and out.
The biggy will be when BMW release the electric 3-series tourer based on the i4 platform. That will shift absolute bucketloads.
The Polestar is the most appealing of any electric car to my eyes
I have to say, to me it looks very old fashioned. Sorry 🙂
I agree that the Polestar looks great - not sure whether I prefer it or the i4 (I’ve got an i4 so there’s a bit of familiarity whereas the Polestar looks fresh and new each time I see one). They were both at the top of my wish list largely because they’re both hatchbacks which is about as close as you can get to an estate.
There are some MG estates - worth a look and yes the i5 will have an estate version.
I do hope that when they launch an electric 3 series they include an estate version.
For EVs in particular estate cars make a lot of sense as you get a fairly major range boost due the better aero compared to the SUV-alikes that are so common right now.
Quick question to the experts. Charged my car again last night to 80% via my charger as usual but when I got in this morning it was at 83% according to the car? Is this due to the warmer weather? Only had the car 2 months so still learning.
I have to say, to me it looks very old fashioned. Sorry 🙂
It looks like a Volvo. That’s what Volvos look like.
Apology accepted 👍🏻
Although it’s not as bad as the ungainly turd that is the Volvo C40. Which is thankful, given they’re basically the same car.
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You owe the government 3%. Do it via PAYE.
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It looks like a Volvo. That’s what Volvos look like.
No, their ICE cars look lovely, the Polestar is a completely different design language.
Charged my car again last night to 80% via my charger as usual but when I got in this morning it was at 83% according to the car?
Ohme? Mine does that all the time. I think its just some sort of lag between car, Hyundai HQ, Ohme HQ and my charger, or a long polling interval, so it doesn't stop in time. Weirdly though it doesn't seem to account for some sort of slowdown at the end so the charger will stop at 99%. It's quite a palaver to get that last percent in, not that it matters much.
Yep it’s an OHME. No big deal, as it hadn’t happened before I was just wondering. Good to know it’s not just me then, thanks.
The capacity of my battery seems to vary, probably with temperature. This happens both when charging (charge to 80% and it later says 78 or 82%) and driving (park it at 52% and 2 hours later I come to drive home and it's 49%)
The biggy will be when BMW release the electric 3-series tourer based on the i4 platform.
They will release an electric 3 series on a new platform with new tech with a huge range and kick the crap out of everything around. (neue klasse)
The only problem is what to call it. The I3 is already taken.
The only problem is what to call it. The I3 is already taken.
It’ll be i3. The old one is discontinued now, and BMW aren’t going to break the naming convention they’re using across their whole range, given it’s their name to do what they like with.
Did a return trip from Hove to Yately today… warmer weather and whatever lowering it did, and I averaged 30kWh/100miles…
Noice!
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That doesn’t sound all that efficient…?? Unless maybe the Polestar is even less so usually…
Quick question to the experts. Charged my car again last night to 80% via my charger as usual but when I got in this morning it was at 83% according to the car? Is this due to the warmer weather? Only had the car 2 months so still learning.
Unless it has a solar panel. Yes.
That doesn’t sound all that efficient…?? Unless maybe the Polestar is even less so usually
Yup... Polestar aren't famed for efficiency... The newest model IS better though..
Since purchase in jan, I've been averaging 38kWh/100miles...
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We went to Ludlow and back today, and we took the slightly longer dual carriageway because it's easier. Even with 2/3 of the trip at 70mph we still got 5.0 miles per kWh or 20 kWh/100 miles 🙂
The app said 188 miles of range at 100% when it had finished charging, but the car said 181 when I started it. When I finished the trip I'd done 160 miles and I had 23 left. After the first 30-40 miles the distance travelled plus the remaining range was 182-184 miles the whole time, so it was spot on. Impressive.
I nudged the Corsa e up to 4.7miles/KW this evening over a cumulative distance of 160 miles. Mostly wafting along between 30 and 60 and the occasional sport mode sprint 🤔.
We've decided to plan a trip to Germany at half term. Leaning towards taking the EV - especially as kWhs seem to be really cheap in Europe. On the other hand, keeping up with traffic at 130kph is going to hurt range, and the car doesn't charge fast. It's going to turn an 11hr trip into 14 or more hours - but we will probably still need an overnight stop anyway because we can't rock up to accommodation at midnight.
We’re driving from the frozen North (Saddleworth) to Carnac via Portsmouth at HT. Looking forward to seeing how it works out, especially with bikes on the back!
First long drive with the roof bars on the Poledancer. No rack or bike, just bars.
80 miles of motorway on cruise at 70, with the rest urban crawl, hence the average speed shown. More than happy with just over 4miles/kWh. The bars on their own have made little difference. Increased wind noise, probably made more noticeable by the glass roof, but no whistling.
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I have found out that Thule make caps for certain roof bar mounts. On my car, there are four little hatches on the roof, under which is a port that you screw the roof bar's foot into. It's a bit of a faff. It seems Thule have given you the option of removing the bar but leaving the bottom part of the foot in place, via hex bolts instead of the fiddly little posts. You still have to unlock the covers so it's not really quick release, but it's probably an improvement. You can then get the plastic caps to cover up the part of the foot that is attached to the car.
This probably makes it easier to take the bars on and off. I will probably do this on camping trips etc and remove the feet entirely when I get home.
Mine are the Edge bar design, so the only way of removing the bars is to take the whole lot off. As it is, with that level of range impact, I'll just leave them on.
Ive copied this from the other thread as it seems relevant here
I wonder if we are about to see a tipping point for EVs in the UK? a flood of cheap EVs will upend a lot of stuff, not least petrol stations...................
Eventually they’ll have to start chasing the lower end of the new market. As soon as someone releases a small cheap EV they’ll all follow.
we havent really seen the impact of the chinese glut of EVs yet
but its coming very soon
the EU is likely to impose provisional tariffs in July (tho not as high as s Bidens 100%) and a final ruling in November- what will happen to the UK car market if the government doesnt will be interesting, prices could come down a lot (although I imagine UK manufactuers will be screaming for tariffs!)
although I imagine UK manufacturers will be screaming for tariffs!
Which UK manufacturers would those be? The only one really left is JLR, and they're not exactly playing in the same space.
18 months into EV ownership and it's a dream 😀
Which UK manufacturers would those be? The only one really left is JLR, and they’re not exactly playing in the same space.
fair point, it does seem like the UK have decided to just ditch its auto industry completely
"Which UK manufacturers would those be? The only one really left is JLR, and they’re not exactly playing in the same space."
Mini, Nissan, Honda, Toyota still being made in the UK.. Not in massive numbers, but still nearly 800000 cars in 2022 apparently.
Massive discount on pre-registered Nissan Leafs...
1000 miles into ID BUZZ life and everything is good so far. Pleased with the current 3 miles / kwh for something about as aerodynamic as a house brick. Very comfortable to drive , lots of rear passenger and boot space. Massage seats are welcome. Its not luxury car smooth , but its a step up from the T6.1 .
The infotainment system not as good as other cars I have owned, but seeing as its in AppleCarPlay mode most of the time then that's no real issue.
Got its first long journey coming up , going on a site visit and delivering around 300 Kg of steel plates so will be interesting to see how that weight affects efficiency.
Been out of the EV game for 8 months , so which are the better value chargers at the moment ?. Upcoming journey will be around 600 miles , so will be looking at minimum 2 charges whilst on the road. Rough journey will be Devon, Bristol , Buckinghamshire, London, Wiltshire then back to Devon. Will there be any Tesla Chargers open to the public on those routes ? M5/M4 going up then coming back on the A303. Which is the correct Tesla App to download as Appstore has various different ones
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Massive discount on pre-registered Nissan Leafs…
Bloody hell that's decent, for my use it's no good because of the range/slow charging but for those needing a local run-around that's epic.
Bloody hell that’s decent, for my use it’s no good because of the range/slow charging but for those needing a local run-around that’s epic.
Yeah that's what I thought – as a town car it would be great. I currently have a 13 yr old diesel that is worth around £6k and only gets used for short journeys so a net cost of £9k for a brand new car is very tempting. I wonder how many more such crazy deals on electric cars will pop up in the next year...
They were actually cheaper ...
Like 12.4k a month or so ago... But that was prob another dealer offer.
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They were actually cheaper …
Wow - I saw the Fiat 500e for that sort of price a while back, but never the Leaf.
Hmm..maybe that's what I was remembering 😂 😂 😂
Ignore me...carry on!
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The Leaf is a great city car.
I wonder how many more such crazy deals on electric cars will pop up in the next year…
Not many like that I reckon. Leafs are known to be old tech and they have stopped making them so these are on clearance.
Right, I've booked a place in Germany for half term and the current plan is to take the EV. It's 660 miles ish. ABRP reckons we will want 6 charges along the way, but it's carefully calculating the optimum charging times based on the charging curve of the car. Most of the charge stops are like 15 or 20% to between 70 and 80%. I had to put a maximum speed in because it otherwise would have had me driving flat out on the Autobahn at 103mph. Funnily enough it made almost no difference to the overall journey time dropping this to 81mph. It reckoned it would take me 9hrs of driving, and 2h37 of charging, giving me 12h45 or so because it thinks I'm taking the tunnel
However, I programmed the trip into the car satnav to see what charging stations it would select, and it suggested four charging stops - but the total travel time was 12h10, however I'm not sure how it is accounting for the channel crossing. That suggests I'd be charging to higher percentages to do fewer stops, but it's not giving me a break down. I will probably drive according to the satnav as it has live charger info and ABRP doesn't (nor does it appear on Android Auto) unless you pay.
I'm also going to get rid of the crappy tyres. I reckon I can get another 15 miles of range with something decent. I could get Michelin e.Primacy which have good RR and are quiet, but they are allegedly a bit less comfortable. The alternatives are Conti Eco Contact 6 which I really liked on the Leaf, or Bridgestone Turanza Eco.
Bugger. My wife's passport doesn't have enough validity. Gonna have to go somewhere else.
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Massive discount on pre-registered Nissan Leafs…
Bloody hell that’s decent, for my use it’s no good because of the range/slow charging but for those needing a local run-around that’s epic.
That is a mighty deal and tempting for Mrs P.....not too bothered about range or slow charging but it's the use of Chademo that would stop me. A dying standard it feels like out and about on the public network.
Bugger. My wife’s passport doesn’t have enough validity.
Is the boot of the ioniq not big enough for her? 😉
Chademo isn't a problem today - there's very few places that are CCS-only and most have a good alternative close by. Lots of new sites being deployed with chademo too, many still with it on every charger. Plus there's a viable adaptor now for CCS (it costs about a grand) if it does start being a problem in years to come. You're not going to be crossing continents but a 200ish mile day trip with a quick charge is no problem.
A new 39kwh N-Connecta at £15k is bonkers value, the Leaf is one of the few EVs I'd be comfortable owning privately for 10+ years (it's a simple, well-known, reliable platform), the spec is good with heated seats/wheel, 360 cameras, adaptive cruise, CarPlay etc. It's a nice size for family use, not too big but a massive boot. Battery is warranted for 8 years / 100k miles, if you want a warranty on the rest after 3 years then Nissan do a package of warranty, service, MOT and full Euro breakdown for £34 a month or £400 a year.
The Zoe came with Michelin Primacy 4. I replaced with Michelin Cross Climate. The CCs have so far equalled the life of the Primacy on the front with life left and have worn evenly unlike the Primacy which wore on inside and outside edges (no feathering to indicate tracking misalignment and normal wear with CCs). No difference in range that I've noticed.
No difference in noise or comfort. I prefer the feel of the CCs, not that I push them hard, the car is sure footed whatever the surface and exceptional on the mix of wet, slush, snow, ice, mud... going skiing.
We picked up the model Y today from Brent Cross, a very underwhelming experience for our first ever new car... Car park and portacabin next to a flyover in deepest NW London.. insurance paid (eyewatering amount) and off we went.
We popped into Westfield for a practice charge and to use our 100miles of free supercharging. Grabbed a quick bite to eat whilst the car charged to 80% and then I dropped off Mrs Davy90 in central London and head home. Have been through the various menus and paired my phone, set profiles etc.
The car is seriously pokey in it's faster mode, set to 'chill' now for general pootling about. I may learn to love the minimal interior, I like the idea, but in execution there are some poorly resolved bits of design.
It is comfy, and unlike it's predecessor (ancient e92 330i) it copes quietly with speed bumps and is overall very easy to drive. I like the regen one pedal braking thing.
Now sat in the driveway plugged in. My phone now can't see the charger in the app.. although it did allow me to configure the charger to only charge our car via inputting the VIN. The car is set up on Mrs Davy90's phone and apparently she needs to contact the lease company to enable me to add the car to my phone. All a bit of a learning curve..
It's definitely not German but it seems solid and everything just works. Liking the space, the kids like the rear legroom. I think it's going to be ok 🙂
Pretty happy with mine. 2000 miles and it’s showing an average consumption of 234 wh/mile (4.27 mpkWH)
I have a few random squeaks that seem to come and go though. I think they relate to the cabin temperature.
I find the screen and use of, fairly logical and easy enough. Even the wiper function isn’t too bad. Great on long journeys too. A much quieter place to be than my last car (A class PHEV)
Nice report davy90.
It is comfy, and unlike it’s predecessor (ancient e92 330i) it copes quietly with speed bumps
New cars always feel nicer than cars over about 8 years give or take, because the suspension bushings are fresh.
Just in case anyone's not reading the other bun-fight thread but is still interested in deals - used Hyundais are now insane value for money. Ioniq Electric 38kWhs now significantly cheaper than the hybrid/diesel equivalent. Kona 64kWhs now for £12k, which is what I paid for my Ioniq 38 two months ago. Ioniq 5s for £21k two years old.
tested a Model Y performance today and a new model 3 standard range.
'Performance' bit aside I was very impressed with the Y, felt well put together, I was expecting it to be worse. (I can only lease a standard Y)
The 2024 Model 3 is great, the model 3 was always a good car, just needed tweaking and that's what they've done. Absolutely loved the air conditioned seats. Kids screen in the back could be a godsend/cause of endless arguments. 😂
Got an ID4, Ioniq 5 and GT6 to test in the next few weeks.
Be interesting to see how they all compare after being so immersed in tesla's way of doing things.
The 330i is in pretty good shape for its age, it just drags bits of MSport bodywork at the front on the speed humps. its off to pastures new on Weds. I'll miss it.
The new model 3 we tested has a nicer interior than the Y, just the steering wheel design and ambient light strip give it a bit more. It just isn't quite big enough for our current family needs. Having spent more time prodding it, our standard RWD Y is actually pretty well screwed together and I still can't quite get my head around just plugging it in on the driveway....
My other vehicle which is next to go, is a 33 year old Talbot campervan which can be fixed with a hammer... how the intricate plastic detail of the latest vehicles last will be interesting to see - UV damage and wear and tear on the delicate, motorised electrical socket cover on the Y?
Being taken to Henley tomorrow by a friend in her recently aquired Ioniq 5, be interesting to compare..
Its been an expensive day so far, trying to summon the courage to shell out even more for the Tesla roof bars before next week's hols....
"Got an ID4, Ioniq 5 and GT6 to test in the next few weeks."
Genesis G80? Comes up on our scheme at a pretty decent price now,, must be a close out.
I've looked in their app and can't find anything, don't know if it's a separate app
how the intricate plastic detail of the latest vehicles last will be interesting to see
It's the same plastics that have been in use for decades on cars, surely?
how the intricate plastic detail of the latest vehicles last will be interesting to see – UV damage and wear and tear on the delicate, motorised electrical socket cover on the Y
the socket cover is much the same as on other Teslas. Look at an old Model S and as @molgrips suggests the plastics fare as well as those on any other car.
harking back, not sure that I’ve had a car with a metal filler flap since the 90s? Admittedly, none of those closed themselves like the Tesla charging flap does.
The car is set up on Mrs Davy90’s phone and apparently she needs to contact the lease company to enable me to add the car to my phone
that sounds likely. We shared our Teslas originally by emailing Tesla. Now there’s a spot in the app under ‘security & drivers’ -> ‘manage drivers’ -> ‘add driver’. This is only in the “Owner’s” app, added drivers don’t get this option.
I’ve looked in their app and can’t find anything, don’t know if it’s a separate app
They had a plunge pricing event earlier this year, I just got a notification on my phone via the electroverse app saying something like discounted charging at ionity chargers from 10pm 12am tonight.
Anyone here got a 2018-2020 Model S Long Range? What was a £100,000 is now sub £30k and may do to replace my Model 3 when it goes back to the big Tesla dealership in the sky. I don’t want a new Tesla out of principle, but a big floaty electric barge is quite tempting.
I just got a notification on my phone via the electroverse app saying something like discounted charging at ionity chargers from 10pm 12am tonight.
I checked I had notifications on for Electroverse but I haven't had any. I can't see how plunge pricing is going to be very helpful if it's at random off peak times - it's not likely to be when you need a charge - unless you are running an EV without home charging.
Anyone here got a 2018-2020 Model S Long Range?
My colleague has an older one, he paid something like £40k and in 6 months lost £20k... ouch. It has lost a bit of its range apparently but it's an older car.
Anyone here got a 2018-2020 Model S Long Range?
I had one. Great to drive. As you say, floaty barge.
super simple on the inside. No door bins. I liked this.
unless it has the upgraded infotainment module you’ll likely be frustrated. The original module was really sluggish by 2020. The module on my SO’s Model 3 was so much slicker to use.
check also for yellowing of the main screen surround. The adhesives discolored over time.
quite low to get in and out of, though not compared to a Model 3.
My other vehicle which is next to go, is a 33 year old Talbot campervan which can be fixed with a hammer… how the intricate plastic detail of the latest vehicles last will be interesting to see – UV damage and wear and tear on the delicate, motorised electrical socket cover on the Y?
To be fair, the early Teslas had horrific plastics, sharp edges, pinch hazards, horrifically bad clipping points, thin bits, the dye in some of them faded in patches very quickly or took stains instantly.
They're an absolute shed load better now.
Yeah, I had an Ioniq 5 as a hire car today and it was awful. It had 5,000 miles on the clock and everything rattled and clunked.
Using the built in sat nav was akin to programming the timer on a nineties video recorder, and the charger database was spectacularly out of date. I would blame Hyundai for this, but my iPhone / Google Maps was no better.
The cruise control was agricultural, the lane assist was awful, the brakes grabby, the economy mediocre, and the ride clunky.
I like to complain about my Model 3, but even at three years old it’s more than twice the car that the Ioniq 5 is.
Oh, since I suppose I should be balanced, some pros: I like the pixel styling. And the V2L capability. But that’s it.
Huh, my older Ioniq is none of those things. The satnav is a bit weird until you figure it out. Either they have forgotten how to do stuff in 3 years, fired everyone who knew what they were doing, or it's a matter of preference.
Quote “I could get Michelin e.Primacy which have good RR and are quiet, but they are allegedly a bit less comfortable.”
When I replaced the original equipment Michelin energy tyres I looked at e.primacy for my ionic and they were eye wateringly expensive compared with primacy 4 which I went with. The e tyres have a shallow tread depth to reduce rolling resistance and from memory were only B rated for grip and wet weather.
the primacy 4 were a big improvement, but still lack grip pulling away from junctions in the wet and are a bit scary on slightly icy roads.
I replaced the rears with cross climate 2 and have noticed no reduction in range or increase in noise and (maybe not a real effect) better feel on the road. The fronts will be replaced with the same.
I don’t think it helps that the ionic has terrible / non existent traction control meaning the fronts spin at the slightest hurry out of a damp junction. That’s the only real downside from ev - zero feel for when this is happening
I don’t think it helps that the ionic has terrible / non existent traction control
Ioniq Electric or 5/6? Both my Ioniq Electrics have been the opposite - the pick up from stationary is really slow and there's never a hint of spin. In fact, it couldn't pull the skin off rice pudding until about 15mph. I wondered if this is simply down to the current out of (and into) the battery being so limited, or that I had crap tyres and the TC was really good. The lack of ability to shift out of a junction is a bit of an issue at times - that's why I don't use eco mode as it's even worse then.
The e tyres have a shallow tread depth to reduce rolling resistance and from memory were only B rated for grip and wet weather.
The ones I am looking at in my size are A/A rated and not significantly more expensive than the other premium tyres I'm looking at.
EARLY Teslas had horrific plastics, sharp edges, pinch hazards
Erm..you've seen the Cybertruck chop off peoples appendages, right??!!
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@molgrips standard ioniq electric. I think that’s part of the issue- nothing happens so wanting to hurry out of a junction I end up needing to stomp the pedal so end up pulling out just as slowly as the tyres spin 😆
on the muddy narrow ungritted roads around me in winter it can be a bit spinny on the front hence moving to all seasons.
I have not had any spin at all in any conditions! Even on these crappy budget tyres on there now.
😁 Shows how different environments can impact it. My local roads are mostly coated with a layer of mud, and after a few warm summers are a touch glassy (other than potholes)
You'll love it, electricity is fantastic.
We changed to a similar vintage e-niro a few weeks ago. We've had our eye on one for a few years but couldn't afford it back then. It's been great, it's a bit roomier and faster than our old ioniq while not being too big on the outside. I loved our ioniq but this suits us better.
I do wish the charge point was at the back, though, being at the front when you reverse onto your drive is a right pain!
Erm..you’ve seen the Cybertruck chop off peoples appendages, right??!!
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Yup, yet another "feature" that flies in the face of pretty much every other industry players thoughts on "safety" and "not dismembering paying customers".
We've booked a holiday place in Mallaig 527 miles from here. ABRP is saying it'll take 8h45 of driving with 2h4m of charging - which is entirely reasonable - but somehow they make that 11h14 total? From Cardiff it goes Stoke, Lancaster, Gretna, the other side of Glasgow (Jamestown) and then Ft William.
There's chargers in Glasgow of course, then an open Tesla place in Fort William. After that there are still quite a few rapids but in singles. They're all from Charge Place Scotland - what do I need to know about them? I presume it's app based.
Last time I used Charge place Scotland I was able to start the charging session with my phone. Had a phone signal so that helped. I had an account already set up. Used the charging cable I had in the car boot for the majority of slow charging.
Bugger, it says that it takes two weeks to get an RFID card. I hope there's phone signal...