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Might be getting rid of the EV6 soon.
Wondering what's the smallest EV that will fit a large MTB in the boot with the front wheel off? (1250mm wheel base, 800mm bars)
The EV3 looks interesting, or do I need to go larger?
Think EV3 would be fine, especially if you put the boot floor to lower position - i get my medium road or gravel bike in with both wheels on and bars turned a bit.
Cheers for that. Good to hear
Yes, EV3 is sometimes referred to as a "baby EV9" but small it aint 😊
We had a young lad come off his bike (a traditional sit up and beg style road bike) outside our house and I managed to fit it in the back without removing any wheels (or even moving the front passenger seat) to take him back home.
My (size Large) Cotic FlareMax is probably pretty close to what you are talking about, so I can see if that fits if you like.
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That would be very good of you, thank you
How many tens of thousands of pounds are you prepared to pay to not take the back wheel out of you bike, Onzadog ? 😛
Here is a rather muddy FlareMax in an EV3. Floor in lowest position as @ianc suggested and front seats set for (6 foot tall) me. Didn’t even need to lower the saddle 
Wow, that goes in a lot easier than it does in my EV6, thanks for that. Hope the car didn't get too dirty just for my benefit.
Edukator, it's not just bikes that need to go in the back. It's also the dog, or work tools. If a bike fits, I know they'll fit.
Here is a rather muddy FlareMax in an EV3
Good grief, put a tarp down!
thanks for that. Hope the car didn't get too dirty just for my benefit.
No problem and don't worry, between mountain biking, trail running and two collies that love to get muddy, it is rarely clean for long 😀
Good grief, put a tarp down!
It's just a box to carry me and my stuff around.
I was teasing as I hope you gathered, Onzadog. Load capacity, roof racks and towing are what's stopping us buying a second EV. Zoe does 90% of what we need a car for but our 2013 Dacia Lodgy hangs around because to pull a horse box, carry junior's junk, take a roof rack, we'd have to replace it with a car that is ****ing huge/politically incorrect/foreign. Even the Scenic will only pull 1100kg which isn't enough for even the smallest horse box (1200kg ptac required, the Scenic is 1100).
There’s a few foibles, but nothing dangerous or anything that’s made me regret buying it. The Facebook groups have answers and/or arounds for most if not all issues.
The only significant issue I’ve had is losing all sound when I used CarPlay for the first time. Easily fixed by soft resetting the infotainment system.
There’s an upgrade due to land that fixes some minor annoyances as well.
Good to hear, got a quote for £440 a month, 3 + 33. Dual motor, prime pack. It's quite a bit more than the Enyaq that I was looking at but also a bit of a steal at that price.
What's up with the magnesium colour? I'm guessing it's probably too white compared to the cool grey the promo images look like.
It's just a box to carry me and my stuff around.
It's an expensive box, and one day you'll get rid of it and someone else will pay a lot of money for it. Things are worth looking after as a matter of principle, especially expensive things that get passed onto someone else.
What's up with the magnesium colour? I'm guessing it's probably too white compared to the cool grey the promo images look like.
Spot on.
I did briefly consider the enyaq, but I couldn’t get over the fact (completely unfairly) that they appear to me to be the modern equivalent of the Vauxhall Zafira - ie driven by folk that have given up on life.
You should consider an Ioniq 5 though - great cars.
The price you were quoted is good depending on included mileage.
8k miles pa
I did briefly consider the enyaq, but I couldn’t get over the fact (completely unfairly) that they appear to me to be the modern equivalent of the Vauxhall Zafira - ie driven by folk that have given up on life.
I'll be coming from a Skoda Superb, does that mean that I've rediscovered life? 🤣
Wondering what's the smallest EV that will fit a large MTB in the boot with the front wheel off? (1250mm wheel base, 800mm bars)
My id3 easily does that. Looks about the same size rear space as the EV3 up there ^
Guess this'll fit here!
Took the P2 to Silverstone yesterday - slightly damp weather worked in my favour when on track with BMWs and GT3RSs!!
Here's a vid of me leaving the pit lane (cold tyres) then immediately trying to keep up with a Manthey GT3RS!!! THink i did the EV crowd proud eh!
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Guess this'll fit here!
Took the P2 to Silverstone yesterday - slightly damp weather worked in my favour when on track with BMWs and GT3RSs!!
Here's a vid of me leaving the pit lane (cold tyres) then immediately trying to keep up with a Manthey GT3RS!!! THink i did the EV crowd proud eh!
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Haha cool, nice job. What was your top speed down the hangar straight?
i reached 125mph.... the 'chicken foot' kicked in and I had to hit the brake before flying off the corner!
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i reached 125mph.... the 'chicken foot' kicked in and I had to hit the brake before flying off the corner!
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What was your average miles per kwh for the time spend on track?
And did you notice if the car started to reduce power at any points?
What was your average miles per kwh for the time spend on track? 1.3kWh per mile 🤣
And did you notice if the car started to reduce power at any points? Yup - after about 4 laps it would start getting hot, and begin to throttle the top end of power. I think this is because I'm getting more confident, so spent a LOT more time on full throttle at Silverstone (It was the GP circuit, so has 3 decent straights) than I did at Brands Hatch, or even the Nurbugrin (though when I go back to the 'ring, i think i'll be more confident and full throttle it more there too...)
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Well my 2 month old Kia EV6 is back at the dealership, with a flat battery - the irony. 12V battery was down at 10.7V and the car went into limp mode. Apparently a common issue with the module that charges the 12V battery failing on EV6s, although not usually this early in life.
Well my 2 month old Kia EV6 is back at the dealership, with a flat battery - the irony. 12V battery was down at 10.7V and the car went into limp mode. Apparently a common issue with the module that charges the 12V battery failing on EV6s, although not usually this early in life.
The Cupra Born we've just got has the same issue. It still drives no problem but a warning on the screen pops up telling me to take it to the workshop.
Apparently because it's an ex demonstrator car and it's not been driven far it can go flat if not used for a while.
It'll only do 205kph, some of the single motor versions are 170kph i think.i reached 125mph....
127mph...
I've had dead 12v battery issues on our Zoe and then the Kona. On the Kona it's supposed to happen when it's not locked properly, whatever that means, and the car is continually hunting for the key inside the car which eventually flattens the battery.
The Zoe just used to be not very good at charging the 12v battery.
The 12v error on the zoe is something like - catastrophic electrical system fault. Not what you want to hear, especially as it is unrelated to the traction battery.
It'll only do 205kph, some of the single motor versions are 170kph i think.
127mph...
Ah - i thought 140mph was its top speed! So 125mph isn't too bad!
Pretty sure I hit the limiter on teh Autobahn on the way to the ring - but that was boring as it was just a dull straight road, so pretty soon just backed down to 130kph.
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Thanks for the reminder to check the voltage of the service battery on my Zoe now it's getting cold, oldtennisshoes. Renault say to change every three years but I change at less than 12.4 volts when everything is switched off. The first one I took out has done another three years in an ICE. The post 2019 Zoes seem to hold charge better.
Thoughts on the 3p per mile "fuel duty equivalent" for EVs widely reported as coming in from 2028?
It will approximately triple my per mile costs as a home low overnight tariff EV charger which is a bit sad. But......I can see that something is needed. This tax model doesn't reward efficient energy use (by driving efficiently or buying an efficient vehicle) like the petrol/diesel fuel does which feels like a missed opportunity.
This tax model doesn't reward efficient energy use
Sadly it still encourages buying stinking greenhousing ICEs. We need to tax the ICEs off the road not the EVs. When three quarters of the population are still buying ICEs the tax system needs changing to stop that.
Thoughts on the 3p per mile "fuel duty equivalent" for EVs widely reported as coming in from 2028?
It will approximately triple my per mile costs as a home low overnight tariff EV charger which is a bit sad.
It's still much cheaper than diesel though.
Sadly it still encourages buying stinking greenhousing ICEs.
Does it? Is it still not far cheaper to drive EV if you are home charging?
Sadly it still encourages buying stinking greenhousing ICEs.
No one will be making ICE vehicles in a few years time (apart from commercial vehicles).
It's still much cheaper than diesel though.
Only if you always charge at home.
Be interesting to see how a per mile tax would be applied!
P4 LRDM ordered, delivery due early December. I never thought I'd own (lease) a car that could do 0-60 faster than the Ferrari F40 that was the supercar in my youth!
Be interesting to see how a per mile tax would be applied!
Yes, might be a challenge. I guess once a car gets to 3yrs old it would have a. mot and the milage gets recorded then. In the radio they were saying that you'd be asked to estimate and pay for your next 12 months milage and either pay a supplement or get a refund my how much you were out. I guess you could make self reported milage submissions for the first 3 years and at the first mot the car could have a debt charged to it if those self reports had been erroneous.
In the French reports I've read comparing the cost on running ICEs and EVs the advantage of EVs is the low cost per mile in use which compensates for the higher dpreciation if bought new or higher lease cost. Remove the low cost per mile and ICEs would be cheaper again.
You couldn't check against MOT mileage as those miles might not be in the UK. Allowing non UK miles to be removed would leave a loop hole you bet people would exploit. I suppose the other way would be to make you pay for non UK miles as well.
You couldn't check against MOT mileage as those miles might not be in the UK.
True - didn't think of that. For some outlier EV users that could make a hell of a difference. For most - not so much. You can buy a tank of fuel in Portsmouth and use it in Northern Spain and vice versa already. And I pay fuel duty on my lawnmower's and boat outboard fuel. Nothing will be perfect.
Can't see a better way without some significant infrastructure/hardware etc changes.
Surely this is an issue that many countries will face - revenue from fuel tax will be lost and so that will need to be found somewhere (unless you subscribe to certain economic theories). How are they doing this in places where EV adoption is ahead of the UK?
You couldn't check against MOT mileage as those miles might not be in the UK. Allowing non UK miles to be removed would leave a loop hole you bet people would exploit. I suppose the other way would be to make you pay for non UK miles as well.
Couldn't is too strong a word here. If I was the Product Manager on this, I'd be using the annual or 6 monthly taxing process and making mileage declaration mandatory along with payment for any tax due. If you take it abroad, you'd need to self certify the non UK mileage.
In the grand scheme of tax collection this would be pretty simple.