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Did 430 miles on Saturday, Bromley to near Poitiers in a 62kwh Leaf. Easy run except for Chargemap recommending a single unit just off the autoroute that was already in use but we pushed on to the next. Last rapid was a bit slow as the battery was hot, so an extra 30 mins waiting on the car rather than the other way around so we could do the last leg in one go.
Octopus Electroverse card has worked on everything I’ve tried so far in France, makes it so easy.
Anyway, the A820 to Mallaig is outstanding. 30 miles of smooth tarmac, no junctions, no traffic and fantastic flow. Restraint is required!
@davy90, there's no need for any lurching when it disengages, just match the speed with your accelerator then indicate.
Have you got single tap or double tap to engage autosteer turned on? If it's double tap it keeps traffic aware cruise control on whilst you change and then you re-engage auto steer once you're in lane.
Have a play with the options but there's no need for it to be lurching around. 👍
as soon as you indicate it disengages the self steering and then when you start to move out the cruise starts to accelerate back to your chosen speed if you’d slowed down.
Which is the "normal" way to do it. Most cars i've tested it on do this. Sometimes they can lurch a bit on the brakes if the radar continues to pick up the car you're passing, but usually not.
Just seen you're in a tesla. No idea what's going on there.
The Leaf did the same with re the adaptive cruise; the only weirdness was when the road was open and a car came into range, it would brake rather than just ease down which was a bit weird when the car was 200m away. This could be alleviated by reducing the range you wanted the adaptive cruise to work at - then it behaved more sensibly. Hyundai has a setting to adjust how aggressively it maintains the distance, which is also configurable with a button on the wheel. In queues it's still a little less fluid than I'd like even on low - but that's because it's not looking three cars ahead like a human driver does (or should do!)
Cheers, the beta cruise just cancelled itself when changing lanes, the basic adaptive cruise is fine, I've not tinkered with the stalk settings. Coming from a 16 year old car where cruise control just fixes your speed, I find some of automated features an unnecessary distraction. Just need to recalibrate my brain I guess.
I only drive on motorways for long periods for a few trips a year so not really a problem. The model Y is considerably easier to drive long distances than my 1991 Talbot Express 🙂
I’ve not tinkered with the stalk settings
What's that? I don't know of any cruise settings on the stalks, other than one down for adaptive cruise, two down for autopilot and three down for rainbow road cowbells. You can toggle one of the scroll wheels left or right to change the distance between you and the car in front, isn't that about it?
Octopus Electroverse card has worked on everything I’ve tried so far in France, makes it so easy.
Like, all the big chargers at the motorway services etc? That would be ideal, as when I did a Euro trip i had to use my UK debit card..getting pre authorised £40 each time..
DrP
(i must look for my electroverse card in the car!)
So back from an afternoon hiking in South Yorkshire, park the car back at the air bnb, get the type 2 charge cable out to plug in and the bloody flap keeps closing as soon as it opens irrespective of which of the 5 different ways you can trigger the opening you try... A bit of googling suggests this is not an uncommon issue.. Held the thing open and plugged it in anyway and it appears to be charging fine... raised a ticket on the Tesla app, waiting for a response from a human..
1 week into ownership... underwhelming but hopefully the warranty service will be more impressive.
Charged to 100% and it now appears to work fine... Mrs Davy90 logged out of the app and logged back in again.... witchcraft...
Some economy data for anyone who's interested...
Kia EV6 2WD with the long-range battery. General pootling about town is about 14 kWh per 100km (4.4 miles per kWh).
Overall since we bought it is 17.1 kWh (3.7 kWh).
On our last day out to the trails (80km each way of mostly 100km/h hilly, twisty rural highway - similar to an A road through the Lakes or Yorkshire Dales, but without the traffic) it used 24 kWh per 100km (2.6 miles per kWh), but it had two adults, two 12-year-olds, an eight-year-old, a medium-sized dog, all the biking clobber, and was not exactly aerodynamic...
Like, all the big chargers at the motorway services etc?
On the Electroverse app there are absolutely loads of chargers.
On the Electroverse app there are absolutely loads of chargers.
but do not assume it’s the best price though Electroverse. The much touted discounts only apply if you have certain Octopus energy tariffs, and in some cases Electroverse is more expensive than either contactless or using the CPOs card/app. Electroverse is convenient, for sure, but not always cheapest.
Yep, most aires are Ionity or Total. Ionity was 30p/kwh via Octopus (I think the lower power triple head charger I used is cheaper than high power CCS). Powerdot at the supermarket and even the village 22kw AC post work with it.
The whole roaming charge card thing seems far more joined up in France.
I don’t know of any cruise settings on the stalks,
Its a setting in the control menu, having done a bit more digging, the default stalk setting is single tap for cruise, if I set the stalk to double tap it sets the cruise with a single tap and the autosteer with the second tap as you say, and it would seem, keeps the adaptive cruise on when autosteer disengages, which should deal with the lurching when lane changing. Will give it a try.
Going back a page, isn't the wheel size efficiency thing a miscalculation? If the car assumes a typical wheel circumference, then counting wheel revolutions will make the miles come quicker.
I don't believe 20% difference is realistic anyway, or else all cars would come with the better wheels.
Going back a page, isn’t the wheel size efficiency thing a miscalculation? If the car assumes a typical wheel circumference, then counting wheel revolutions will make the miles come quicker.
When talking about wheel size, it's assuming the circumference of the tyre remains the same, but the RIM size:tyre size varies.
a 19inch rim may have a 3 inch thick tyre, so total diameter is 9say) 25 inches.
A 17 inch rim will have 4 inches of tyre, so same 25 inch diameter, but more tyre, and normally narrower tyre too..
DrP
isn’t the wheel size efficiency thing a miscalculation?
The poster reported a 22% efficiency gain based one trip that they had previously made many times on the larger wheels. Of course, that's not very good data so they may have had a tailwind etc.
Of course, that’s not very good data so they may have had a tailwind etc.
Someone needs their mouth washing out with carbolic then.
That's anecdata at best.
Yes, but if you regularly make a trip and you know what your efficiency is likely to be in given conditions, then it suddenly jumps up, you can tell there's been a change. Obviously more data is much better.
underwhelming but hopefully the warranty service will be more impressive.
Just out of interest, did you get a response? Or is there the option of cancelling the request?
@Tenfoot we told them via the app thread that the issue had resolved itself and they sent a message with a path to log an issue under the service menu should it happen again, which seems fair enough.
Tried the new cruise configuration earlier and it works well with the double tap.
Only niggle now is the auto wipers which are impressively erratic given the tech has been around for over 15 years.
Going back a page, isn’t the wheel size efficiency thing a miscalculation? If the car assumes a typical wheel circumference, then counting wheel revolutions will make the miles come quicker.
Larger wheels are heavier. And not just because of the diameter, but also often the width.
The auto wipers are shit, after 4yrs I can confirm this. I can offer you salvation for this as well.
You can map the left steering wheel scroll button to a variety of functions. Choose wiper speed as your primary function. You can then tap the end of the stalk to switch the wipers on and the scroll wheel will control the speed. Works really well.
Wipers on my Hyundai are a bit crap - slow to respond, so when it starts to rain heavily or an oncoming vehicle splashes your windscreen there's a good 3 second bit where you cannot see at all. The ones on the Merc are more consistent (but not perfect) but they do at least respond very quickly. They also have a single tap wipe which the Hyundai doesn't have.
Auto wipers on my eNiro are probably my only complaint thus far.
Scroll wheel re-configured, so hopefully more straightforward control over the wiper speed now... Thanks
All the above functionality sounds interesting.
I'm sad I'm missing out on that..
..cos my auto wipers are only controlled by the rain 🤣🤣🤣🤣😜
Lolz...
DrP
(Not technically true... I can adjust the sensitivity and wipe speed, but as it uses a traditional rain sensor, it's fine)
Turns out that the reason the satnav didn't know about any of the CPS chargers in the Highlands is that I'd filtered out everything below 100kW. Seems like only the Tesla public ones are missing.
Amusingly, the satnav knows about CPS chargers but the ChargeMyHyundai app does not!
@davy90 just for future ref. I believe there is a manual release for the charging flap. It's inside the boot on the left (presumably directly behind the charging flap), possibly a pull cord of some description
Ta, I've already found that, lately I've watched enough tech bros on YouTube, sifted through Tesla and reddit forum posts covering all the issues I've encountered, feel like a Tesla expert, just don't have the accessories....
Even got an email back from SeaSucker telling me their rack is fine to use on a Model Y, early cracked Model 3 roof panels being an older Tesla problem (obvs)... - didn't bring the bike in the end as the forecast was sadly accurate, lots of rain.. which we're getting..
So the Hyundai satnav knows about loads of chargers, but the 'filter' page only allows you to filter on a small subset of those. That makes no sense. I can't plan a route using only those networks supported by Electroverse.
Of course I could manually plan and navigate using an app but it seems rather idiotic to not be able to filter on anything that's on the map.
My, effectively Hyundai, satnav has a shedload of filters you can apply to the charging points including by provider.
So the Hyundai satnav knows about loads of chargers, but the ‘filter’ page only allows you to filter on a small subset of those. That makes no sense. I can’t plan a route using only those networks supported by Electroverse
I think the issue there is that Electroverse isn't a charger provider itself but a way of paying on the other networks.
There is a dedicated Electroverse app which works on carplay which may help?
I don't use the satnav in the Corsa e. Android auto from the phone. Easy enough to plan a route with charge points whilst I'm nowhere near the car.
I think the issue there is that Electroverse isn’t a charger provider itself but a way of paying on the other networks.
I went to the Electroverse page and found a list of the networks they're paired with. The silly part is that the satnav knows about Gridserve and Applegreen (for example), they are on the map, but you cannot filter by them. Why would you not be able to filter a map by providers that are on it?
including by provider
Yes, I can filter by provider - but the providers in the filter page are not the same as the providers on the map.
Anyone else finding Intelligent Octopus a bit s*** recently? I keep plugging in, getting a Smart charging plan message and then the next morning it just says it didn’t reach the intended charge - last night instead of putting about 90 miles on it gave up after 1.5kWh!
I’m changing back to controlling it myself via the Zappi app for now and just charging between 11.30 and 5.30, which I know works properly!
Have emailed Octopus to see if they can work it out.
<quote>anyone else finding Intelligent Octopus a bit s*** recently? </quote>
no, ours has been working fine - ohme home pro charger controlled by IO.
It would appear to be something to do with IO not talking to the Tesla properly, although it always used to work fine. In all honesty it works better without using IO as I can set the charger to charge for free during the day from solar, and then boost at night for the hours when it’s cheap, so actually better and more reliable than IO smart charging.
as I can set the charger to charge for free during the day from solar, and then boost at night for the hours when it’s cheap
Surely if you're charging from solar during the day you're effectively paying 15p/kwh to do it, as that's what you'd get for exporting that power. Charging at night is half the price...
Solar panel export tariffs pay you half of the output of the panels, regardless of how much you use yourself. So daytime charging via solar is free as it has no effect on what you earn from the panels.
Solar panel export tariffs pay you half of the output of the panels, regardless of how much you use yourself.
Eh? Export tarriffs pay what the meter says you've exported... If you use all the solar generated power for charging the car, you export nothing and get paid nothing.
No they don’t. Maybe new ones do but older export tariffs, including mine, pay 50% of the total output of the panels measured by the separate meter installed next to the panels. What you get paid is regardless of how much you use yourself versus how much you export.
I don’t even have any way of measuring how much has been exported.
To quote from the feed in tariff info:
‘FiT export payments are 'deemed', so you're not paid for the exact amount you export. Instead, you'll be paid for 50% of the electricity you generate’
I am still car pontificating and seriously considering a third (EV) car and sticking the current SMax on limited mileage for heavy duty stuff.
Use
45-65 miles a day mixed driving (suburban, motorway, urban) on four consecutive days plus a longer day once or twice a week (say 120-140 miles).
This may come to nothing but I think these two would tick the (budget and use) boxes combined with a 7kW home charger:
- Hyundai Kona 64 kWh
- Kia Niro 64 kWh
I can't quite understand the adverts on Auto trader saying they have a 7kW charger I'm assuming that's their max AC charging rate as they're also quoting public/DC charging at up to 100kW?
Neither have the mad fast charging of the Ioniq 5 or EV6 but I think that would be ok and I am sure I could get my bike in the boot and if going solo I could also get to my family in East Anglia with modest extra charger faff.