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Ioniq Electric is group 16 according to Parkers.
^^ no, that was as far as I got tbh, plus some anecdotal search results. Will probs try some quote search engines this evening tho.
Just browsing on Speak EV and someone with an AWD Ioniq 6 went from 20" rims to 18" rims and gained 22% efficiency! That's a remarkable figure and a pretty useful extra chunk of range - the difference between a 250 mile car and a 300 mile car.
i'm rolling on 19s... the newest P2s can come with 21" wheels..
My OHs father has an ioniq 5 on 22s!!
I think 17-19" is a sweetspot size; would be interesting to see if my efficiency changed if i trialled different wheels.
Getting a wheel alignment tomorrow (should have done it soon after lowering, but have been busy). will see if it was out at all.
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I just can't understand the massive wheel fetish. More expensive tyres, more noise, less comfort, less efficiency, and why does everyone think they look cool? Just fashion, where people are conditioned to think it looks good because they think everyone else thinks that. At the same time, people also like the balloon tyres on classic sports cars so..??
I'm pretty sure the 19s on my Merc were the reason the bushes were shredded after 95k miles. I bought my spare set of 18s from a bloke upgrading to 20s - what a great way to ruin a nice car!
Just browsing on Speak EV and someone with an AWD Ioniq 6 went from 20″ rims to 18″ rims and gained 22% efficiency! That’s a remarkable figure and a pretty useful extra chunk of range – the difference between a 250 mile car and a 300 mile car.
22%?
More likely a typo... Or there are a shed load of other factors at play. Like all the factors.
Other factors yeah possibly. I saw 13% improvement on my diesel when I downsized.
The replacement wheels in question on the thread were also narrower enabling the fitting of much more sensible tyres. Also it was not clear if the resultant wheel was the same size so that could have affected the efficiency calculation.
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I just can’t understand the massive wheel fetish. More expensive tyres, more noise, less comfort, less efficiency, and why does everyone think they look cool? Just fashion, where people are conditioned to think it looks good because they think everyone else thinks that. At the same time, people also like the balloon tyres on classic sports cars so..??
All to do with looks and bling! Which, in fairness, is a justifiable reason of you're willing to tolerate the downsides...
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Day 3 of Kia eNiro....just loving it more and more. I popped in to uni today to charge (I'm a masters student going into a PhD, so 4.5 more years there) as it's free charging. Only went in for the afternoon as I'd just got a short meeting. When I got there, there was only 1 7kWh charger available, all of the 22kWh ones were taken. Slightly worried at this point, but all panned out well.
I was down to about 50% charge, so obviously 7kWh takes a bit of time to charge up.....4 hours later it was at full charge. Apparently the drive home is predominantly downhill! After 2 miles I'd averaged 26 m/kWh! In all, I did the 17.6 miles at 5.7kwh so it only took 8 miles off the range. Really can't argue with that at all. Sound system is absolutely mega in the eNiro too. Hoping to get the app sorted next week.
Can anyone recommend me an electric car. Budget 12k max. Recently retired and pootle about the SW -Dorset, Wilts, Somerset but would like to explore more of the UK car camping with a bike in the car. In the past 3 months my longest journey has been a 150 mile roundtrip.
Better off with an ICE at that budget and requirements.
MG5 estate will do what you need for that budget. It's not the fastest charging car in the world, but my dad has no issues trundling from Devon to North Yorkshire in his. Make sure you pick the version with the 61kWh battery. Loads of them on Autotrader for your budget.
When I got there, there was only 1 7kWh charger available, all of the 22kWh ones were taken. Slightly worried at this point, but all panned out well.
I think it only charges at 7 kWh max on AC anyway so no loss there
@artichokes would recommend a trip here if it's not too far away. They've got plenty of ev's in stock so you could have a good look
Currently, would say your budget gets you into these:
Hyundai Ioniq
MG5
MG ZS
Peugeot e-2008
Bit more and you could get a Kona with the bigger battery.
^^^ wot he said ^^^^
The niro tops out at 7kWh AC charging (which is pretty common) so no benefit of being on a 22kWh charger.
Ah right, really interesting that. Most days that I'm there it'll be plugged in all day so no biggie. It's really cool actually, we've got a smart energy network at uni, including two wind turbines and 12000 solar panels. Via an app you can tell the chargers what time you plan to leave, and what charge level you want. It will then vary the charge rate according to the other power needs of the university etc, also taking into account how CO2 intensive the national grid is, how much of our own energy we're generating etc. It can be used to avoid curtailment etc.
Can anyone recommend me an electric car. Budget 12k max
Hyundai Ioniq 38kWh got my vote. Slow rapid charging the only downside but it's not unusual at that end of the market.
Fing Project EV, useless **.
Over again my ProjectEV charger has shit itself to death leaving me no way of charging - not ideal in a fully EV household!
It's bad enough dealing with the vagaries of public charging but when you can't even rely on domestic charging it all becomes way too much hassle.
Last time it took roughly three weeks for them to sort their shit out and fix the problem, hopefully this time it will be a bit quicker.
Oof, that's crap.
I'd be right annoyed if I'd paid a grand for a glorified plug for it to fail.
Twice Molgrips, the useless piece of shit thing has failed twice in under a year. How hard is it to make something not shit!?
So for youngest, current options we are looking at are, either another new Corsa, petrol, which can be has preregistered for about 16k (we’d do it on a HP over a few yrs), or for similar money on a PCP, a 2-3 yr old eNiro or similar. He would be main driver.
The e Corsa is available pre reg for 16k, best of both worlds?
A truly miserable 4.0 miles per kWh on the first leg of the trip. It's only 12C and pretty wet, but even so that's rubbish. The satnav made a reasonable call having had us stop at Hilton Park, but its next planned stop is 120 miles up the road and if we charge to 80% we may not make it. Let's see if it adjusts itself.
A truly miserable 4.0 miles per kWh on the first leg of the trip. It’s only 12C and pretty wet, but even so that’s rubbish.
I dunno, I think that's actually pretty good for any EV on the motorway. The Skoda Enyaq, Mach-E, and awful IONIQ5 that I took for test drives used more than 300Wh/m on the motorway with the cruise pegged at 70mph.
My Musk-mobile, on the other hand, will trundle along at 220Wh/m with winter tyres on and the cruise set to 72. A-roads will see more like 180Wh/m.
A truly miserable 4.0 miles per kWh on the first leg of the trip.
Remember you are traveling north and everything is uphill from your southern start location 😉😂. It's down hill from Shap summit on the M6 all the way to the border so the numbers should increase along that stretch.
I'd just pin charging stops as close to every 100 miles near to the route you are driving and charge at them.
I'm at Carlisle Starbucks which is a great location with 12 350kW Ionities and it's on Electroverse too. Previous stop was at Burton in Kendal. There are 6 chargers there and it's the only time I've seen a bank of rapids fill up, but only for about 10 mins. The 50kWs were still free though. I should have charged at those.
Now the rain has stopped were at 4.5m/kWh which means the second leg we were doing about 4.8, which is more like what I'd expect. We'll aim for Queen of the Loch next, although we could probably get there without another stop I think we'll stop at Fort William, we don't want to arrive in a remote single-charger town with nothing.
The satnav is working surprisingly well and it's a lot easier than following a pre-made plan because it responds to events and your actions. I've realised that favouriting a station that has the facilities you want on a long route is a nice idea.
I was at Gretna Services Ionity 5 mins ago. Just at the Gretna Outlet centre looking at the Tesla Supercharging station they’re currently building.
SE London to Staffs/Cheshire border yesterday, 19% to 81% at Keele services superchargers in 20mins got us to my folks place at 75%. 4 adult sized peeps plus luggage, cruise at 73mph... (55p/KWh at the supercharger).
Tried the beta self steering cruise control, not a fan as it is a faff to change lanes which is self defeating...
9 hours on granny charger overnight back to 100%. Heading on to North Yorks this afternoon.
First long trip has been straightforward so far, if only the weather forecast was as good....
I was at Gretna Services Ionity 5 mins ago.
Going north or south? I'll wave if I see a Genesis.
It's remarkable how little bother the charging is even in this slow car. Plug in, pee, get snack, stretch legs and 20..mins have gone by and you've added 40-50% already. I've done precisely zero waiting around that wasn't welcome.
Going north or south?
Neither, just a quick top up while the family were going round the Outlet Village.
Im at my caravan for the weekend and that’s the nearest rapid charger.
Tried the beta self steering cruise control, not a fan as it is a faff to change lanes which is self defeating
Yeah. It’s a waste of time. The constant nagging from the car to wiggle the steering wheel is irritating.
I think my next big trip in the Corsa e will be routed via the Tesla open for all charging stations. There seems to be a few more than this time last year and they are cheap.
Had 4 wheel alignment on the P2 on Sat...
All wheels were toes out a bit... So all 4 adjusted. Despite lowering the car, the camber was still in the green, which is nice!
Does it feel any different... Hmm.. not really! But mentally it's better knowing it's fixed, and should show better mileage..
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Boring efficiency update. Just roof bars on my Polestar made little difference, sitting mid-20s kWh/100miles this time of year.
With bike rack (Yakima HighSpeed) and bike (hardtail mtb) on, it gave 28kWh/100miles, so 3.6 miles/kWh. Mixed driving, but mostly motorway, 90 miles in pissing rain. Not too shabby. No more noise than just the bars as well, which was surprising.
Bensales....
Still beating my economy.. Even with a bike 🤣
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Mine is the boring slow one though.
3.6 is bloody good with the bike on it. Audi Q4 Quattro Sportback, 3000 miles and long term I’m showing average of 3.4 with an average speed of 30mph. My commute is 70 miles round trip mainly motorway.
Cost wise, electricity bill is averaging at £20 a week (just under). That’s all household electricity, 2 adults and 2 teenagers. So pretty happy cost wise. However very occasionally it will just immediately charge, noticed it twice but noticed it after a good number of hours of charging.
The bad news is….I really miss my fast petrol cars…..found myself on autotrader having a sneaky look earlier.
The bad news is….I really miss my fast petrol cars…..found myself on autotrader having a sneaky look earlier.
Fast EV...? Woosh woosh...?
The p2 dual motor with performance upgrade is, quite frankly, ridonculous!
99% of the time it's a lazy cruiser.. plodding around without a care... But if needed..maaaan does that thing pull!
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14hrs on the road yesterday of which just under 3hrs was spent charging. It was done ad hoc rather than according to the plan so it was not optimal in terms of time. Only about 10 mins was spent actually sat waiting when I wanted to leave; the rest was walking around, eating or stretching legs.
A good half hour was wasted in Fort William trying unsuccessfully to get the Tesla charger to work. It wouldn't talk to the car.
Also the charger in Mallaig, an ancient battered thing only works with the RFID card and not the app at all. However I rang CPS and they were able to order me a card and use that to start the charge. Their website recommends that you get the card due to lack of signal, however it does not say that some chargers are not even app enabled.
Also the charger in Mallaig, an ancient battered thing only works with the RFID card and not the app at all
I know you left it too late to get a card but I did say a decent CPS experience requires the RFID card.
And I would have ordered one if it would have arrived on time.
The advice for cards is related to mobile signal, and I verified that I would have signal. And I do. The annoying part is that nowhere does it say that not all the chargers are app enabled.
The constant nagging from the car to wiggle the steering wheel is irritating.
A solution to dickheads trying to use level 2/3 self driving as a complete autonomous driving solution.
Think mine looks for an input from me every 12 seconds and cuts out after 2o. So i leave my hands on the wheel, and that's enough for it to detect i'm there.
On the beta self steer cruise, it was more on a busy motorway, changing lane disengages the cruise and the car lurches as the regen braking competes with my attempts to match road speed with the accelerator pedal. It is neither relaxing or comfortable for passengers. Long empty stretches of road would be fine although I prefer to just steer the car.
That's poor - on mine it stays engaged - as soon as you indicate it disengages the self steering and then when you start to move out the cruise starts to accelerate back to your chosen speed if you'd slowed down. Works really well, one of the best thought out things on the car. But whilst it does steer itself it's only lane assist, it doesn't claim to be any kind of self driving.