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RE the scre/slow puncture - i'd press for a proper fix/repair. Maybe try another garage.
Was listening to the drivetorque podcast, and it seems a decent repair is as good as a new tyre.
Thanks, I've seen that it is possible to repair them as well. Just need to find a tyre place happy to do it as it seems to be a bit more work. Some things I have seen just say remove it and let the sealant do its job but as the head has snapped off there's nothing to really get hold of. Maybe if they can get it from the inside that would work.
Next joy is waiting for VW to do the software update and recall for the door handle issue. Dealer has said to wait as on a couple they have had in update hasn't gone well.
It’s time to choose a new EV but it’s given me a bit of a dilemma.
My immediate choice of another Genesis is too expensive to justify so I’ve narrowed the list down to 2 choices :
Choice 1 - Kia EV5 - great deal on the top spec with heat pump and all the toys. In all respects the bog standard easy to live with choice. Does everything reasonably well and no obvious flaws.
Choice 2 : Mercedes CLA Shooting Brake - not normally a fan of ze German cars but it’s attractive and by every metric is hands down the best EV currently available to order. 500 mile range, 329 kw charging. Every conceivable gadget. It should be an absolute no brainer based on the spec numbers. Only fly in the ointment is the compact size of the thing. I sat in the saloon version in a MB dealership and could barely get my inflexible and slightly portly carcass in and out of the doors. It’s just too low and tight.
Do I pick the absolutely easy to live with, practical, zero problems EV5 or the hard to live with Merc which is by far the better vehicle but will require extensive yoga tuition to be practical?
I’ve already kinda decided but interested to hear opinions.
Have a look at the Smart #5 as an option vs the EV5. I went and had a look at an EV5 the other day but was more impressed with the PV5 van thing for the price. Not as long range though.
Had a drive in PV5 passenger over Christmas and it was seriously impressive. The only design niggle is the lump of back seat in the middle when folded which doesn't tumble forward or remove. For such a well thought out interior I'm at a loss as to why they did this. Oh and wipe clean occupant floors but carpet in the load space....
The one other thing is price. Yes it is much less than a Buzz, but still £36-38k. Also not that many coming to the UK in next 6 months (had a look at the stock / build screen) so no discounts whatsoever.
Do I pick the absolutely easy to live with, practical, zero problems EV5 or the hard to live with Merc which is by far the better vehicle but will require extensive yoga tuition to be practical?
Lose some weight?
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Perchy, what options did you have on your Genesis? I'm definitely going used not lease but it's narrowing down to that or another Polestar really. Would you choose to buy a used one?
My Gv60 was the absolute basic povvy spec version and it was still magnificent.
I’d buy a second hand one in a minute if that was an option available to me. I’d go for the best specced RWD Premium that could find. The Sport has the nicest wheels but is probably overpowered and the Sport plus is ludicrously overpowered. I’d look for the innovation pack, the sunroof and the nappa leather as options ideally.
the best EV currently available to order. 500 mile range, 329 kw charging
There is a few next gen EV's coming along at the moment. The Merc, the BMW IX3 and the Volvo EX60.
Nearly all the I4 drivers due to change in summer at my company have ordered IX3's. They look 'orrible but an extra 50% range is irresistible
If the EX60 is on our scheme when my car comes up for replacement, i'll be swapping my V60 PHEV for one of the twin motor versions. Unless its A) a silly price or B) a ridiculous lead time.
I suspect it'll be both.
Cheers Perchy, I want the B&O system, but not sure on other bits.
Nearly all the I4 drivers due to change in summer at my company have ordered IX3's. They look 'orrible but an extra 50% range is irresistible
That's exactly what I wanted to do, it just wasn't available to order in time - was willing to put up with the looks as BMW do seem to be able to make great cars and EVs. The additional range is realistically overkill though. The "300 ish" mile range of the i4 is enough that I only charge in public 3-4 times a year and even then it's for a quick 5-10 minute top up.
Mercedes CLA Shooting Brake
I was taken aback to hear that due to the 800V architecture they're not compatible with 400V chargers, which rather limits the options for finding a fast charger. So if looking at a CLA make sure that it's got the (optional?) converter specified if this would be a limitation.
I had to relinquish my 2 yr old salary sacrifice i4 last summer due to a work change and I bought an EV3 GT line, it was preregistered and I paid for it all in full with my work departure settlement.
From the point of view of tech and comfort the Kia is better. Range wise it’s about the same. I do miss the mental acceleration and the BMW smugness a little, sometimes. Then I remember I don’t have to take off the front wheel to get a bike in the back and I can lug a load of stuff to the dump etc much more easily.
My 4 yr old ioniq 5 work lease is up in the spring so just musing about options. Not looked at lease prices yet but those new BMW and Volvo options are all £55k plus 😮
I’d go for another Ioniq 5 or look at the genesis or Kia equalivent as that platform is great but would rather try something a bit less related.
I really fancy (looks, range and fast charging) the Zeekr 7GT. Slick estate from the polestar Volvo parent at ~£45k. Yet to announce uk launch day yet though so may need interim solution.
I was taken aback to hear that due to the 800V architecture they're not compatible with 400V chargers
I think they have rolled back on that no? EDIT the 400V capability is available in the UK as an optional extra:
Mercedes fixes CLA’s rapid charging problem – but at a price
That's like lesson 101 in driving product uptake. Compatibility with existing architecture...I was taken aback to hear that due to the 800V architecture they're not compatible with 400V chargers
I think they have rolled back on that no? EDIT the 400V capability is available in the UK as an optional extra:
Mercedes fixes CLA’s rapid charging problem – but at a price
The idiocy of that original decision and the subsequent moronic decision to charge £££s on a car that already costs 50k just to be compatible with 75% of the UK charging infrastructure would be enough for me to walk out of a merc garage laughing.
EV5 now ordered.
Common sense prevails over making unnecessary compromises and spending a large chunk of additional cash in the pursuit of additional range and charging speed that I don’t even need.
The EV5 is exceptional at nothing at all but, crucially, is really quite good at everything. There are no compromises at all that I can see.
So my lease Citroen E-c4 is turning into a nightmare.
Stopped dead on road. Recovery to home as garage wouldn't take it late.
Lots of fiddling to get it in neutral (cos it's all electric dummy) - 7mm socket and about 100 turns to wind it back manually.
£80 recovery to garage. Booked in. After week - still nothing on diagnostics. 3 months out of warranty on a lease that was pre-registration before I got it by 3 months.
Cruel fate.
(Also a 4 year lease was not a good idea but just post-pandemic virtually no choice.)
Lesson to oneself no more Citroen or possibly even stellantis cars as there are many reports of OBC and traction battery faults that take months to fix and source parts for.
*Gets in stellantis vauxhall grandland and hopes it doesn't die.
Sent a begging letter to Citroen customer service about warranty - as some of the parts are thousands.
Will see. Not been in this situation. Will probably pay lease off early and get out the minute it gets sorted.
The idiocy of that original decision and the subsequent moronic decision to charge £££s on a car that already costs 50k just to be compatible with 75% of the UK charging infrastructure would be enough for me to walk out of a merc garage laughing.
It should be free, for sure, but it wouldn't put me off. It's an £850 optional extra, but the car is still a compelling option even at that higher price. It's still one of the longest range cars you can get, it's a luxury marque, and it still seems decently priced to me. It would be annoying to have to find one used with it though.
A very compelling option but just not enough.
It is a bit try-hard with the Mercedes branding though. There are illuminated three pointed stars on everything.
Plus the bucket seats are slightly too narrow for my chonky ass and the centre console was constantly banging off my knee.
It's an £850 optional extra, but the car is still a compelling option even at that higher price.It's an optional extra, that will put a stack of private customers off. It'll also impact BIK in some markets. Especially as every other 800V car (so far) is compatible out of the factory door.
it's a luxury marque,
Is it really? I mean there was a time when driving a Merc was a 'thing' and well before that there was a time when they were actually good because they were beautifully engineered, lasted longer than most other makes, rarely broke down and if they did, the dealer network was second to none....and for that you paid a well deserved premium. But now? Surely they are just mass produced tat like all cars...is there really any difference between a Kia and a Merc beyond the shiny dials and slightly plusher fabric?
is there really any difference between a Kia and a Merc beyond the shiny dials and slightly plusher fabric?
Give me the Kia any day of the week.
They have made cheaper Mercs, namely the A class and CLA. But IMO, as an owner of a fancy Merc (albeit 2013) and a Hyundai, I think that yes the 'proper' Mercs are still good. The more I drive it the more I can see the work that's gone into it. It's not without reliability issues, of course, because all cars are more or less equally reliable now. The basics are there, but there's probably equal chance of a **** up in some component somewhere due to a design or manufacturing blunder across most brands. But everything in it shows that it's been really worked on. The seat is always comfortable in any position, it's just different. My knees don't bang the steering column shroud. The infotainment boots up immediately. The transmission shifts exactly as I would shift, it doesn't do anything weird. The brakes are really powerful but not at all grabby, just progressive. The climate control never blasts you, it's always weighted just right. It doesn't assault you with bongs and bings. The drive is outstanding, it somehow manages to corner flat, be sporty (for a big car) and also really comfortable etc etc. At first you just think 'yeah ok' then you realise four hours have gone by and you're not in the least bit stressed or uncomfortable. Any time I get to drive it is a treat. If I plan a long trip I genuinely look forward to the drive.
I don't know if the CLA is like that mind 🙂
So my dead Citroen eventually got looked at over a week later after being booked in.
First diagnosis £159 turned nothing up. Garage is saying they need to move the next diagnosis which involves unstrapping everything which is going to cost £770.
So that's £900 before they know anything.
Car is 3 months out of warranty and only 18,000 miles on the clock.
Garage are very poor generally but it's the local Citroen dealer and they've giving me the impression they simply don't know how to fix it.
In the background I've raised a request with Citroen who are looking into what should be done. I'm awaiting a response on that.
It staggers me these cars are so hard to diagnose.
It staggers me these cars are so hard to diagnose.
They’re not IMO. Your garage is just rubbish. Take it elsewhere.
It seems common with the most modern cars that the skills are in short supply. When our Hyundai's brake controller failed, they couldn't diagnose it and had to wait weeks for someone to come from Hyundai (allegedly). How hard can it be to diagnose a brake controller? These things have been on cars for 30 years.
It staggers me these cars are so hard to diagnose.
They’re not IMO. Your garage is just rubbish. Take it elsewhere.
Qualify that? I'm all ears. If you know a garage that can help me for this problem that's in the Citroen pathway let me know please. Just saying that is not hugely helpful.
There are limited options.
I've got to pay at least £100 plus to shift it and then go through the process of diagnosing that again £200 to get to the same pont. So if be £600 down to get to the same point.
(I'm not saying it's not rubbish I just need an alternative thanks.)
It seems common with the most modern cars that the skills are in short supply. When our Hyundai's brake controller failed, they couldn't diagnose it and had to wait weeks for someone to come from Hyundai (allegedly). How hard can it be to diagnose a brake controller? These things have been on cars for 30 years.
Skills, staff, morale and support from manufacturers.
I can't get my head around they can't just plug it in and get a fault list. It's a COW.
In the old days I get taking an engine apart but not now.
I also need to look into what happens legally with a lease car if it doesn't work when I return it.
I think the lease company is on shaky ground if I can prove it's a pre-existing fault. Dangerous fault.
I also need to look into what happens legally with a lease car if it doesn't work when I return it.
My PS4 is on a lease which ends when the warranty does for this very reason.
I also need to look into what happens legally with a lease car if it doesn't work when I return it.
My PS4 is on a lease which ends when the warranty does for this very reason.
Yeah what I got wrong with this lease unlike my hundreds of others it was registered 3 months before I got it. Problem with an in stock car.
Warranties apply from registration.
Which we only realised after.
I also need to look into what happens legally with a lease car if it doesn't work when I return it.
My PS4 is on a lease which ends when the warranty does for this very reason.
Yeah what I got wrong with this lease unlike my hundreds of others it was registered 3 months before I got it. Problem with an in stock car.
Warranties apply from registration.
Which we only realised after.
I'm in a similar position, but only by a couple of weeks. It will be being handed back and I'll take a hit on the 2 weeks before the 3 years is up.
I also need to look into what happens legally with a lease car if it doesn't work when I return it.
My PS4 is on a lease which ends when the warranty does for this very reason.
Yeah what I got wrong with this lease unlike my hundreds of others it was registered 3 months before I got it. Problem with an in stock car.
Warranties apply from registration.
Which we only realised after.
I'm in a similar position, but only by a couple of weeks. It will be being handed back and I'll take a hit on the 2 weeks before the 3 years is up.
Fully intending on returning this before the lease ends if/when repaired.
And paying the 40% lease outstanding bill.
This was a 4 year lease - and very limited availability just after the pandemic otherwise I wouldn't have considered a Citroen.
It's just a classic example of multiple bad things aligning.
Have you spoken to the leasing company @rone? Who is the funder? Is it Citroen? If so then they might have some clout with a dealer. I would still be taking it elsewhere even if I had to pay the £100 to get it there.
This needs its own thread really in any case....
Have you spoken to the leasing company @rone? Who is the funder? Is it Citroen? If so then they might have some clout with a dealer. I would still be taking it elsewhere even if I had to pay the £100 to get it there.
This needs its own thread really in any case....
Yes spoken to them. They can't take a broken car back but are making some pushes where they can. They are speaking to Citroen fleet.
Moving my car is not the issue - moving it only to have to diagnose again and end up with the same result is.
The Citroen customer care women was absolutely so rude to us. Saying she will 'maybe' get back to us.
I'm guessing the whole group is in a mess.
(Yes I didn't want to overwhelm this thread but just wanted folk to know Stellantis have big issues. And they own a lot of car companies.)
This was yesterday.
Big Share drop and retreat over EV roll out.
Big Share drop and retreat over EV roll out
Probably as much to do with them owning lots of dinosaur brands that weren't great to start with and have failed to keep up with Koreans, Chinese and Germans.
Got a bit of a curve ball the other day. My Mercedes EQA 250+ is going to be replaced at 12 months (September) so i have to choose another car from the Mercedes family. Ive enjoyed every minute with it and due to having a home charger i really havent had a seconds range anxiety with it since i got it. I dont really give a hoot what it gets range wise because i dont begrudge putting an expensive charge in every so often if needed and i find there is ALWAYS a charger if i need it somewhere.
So my options were
Another EQA AMG Premium Plus which would have given me money back each month as they are cheaper now
EQE Sport 350+ As standard - Seems we are getting stupid deals on these
CLA AMG Electric Saloon or Fastback - A couple of quid either way tbh
Then it was just bigger and more speccy models for more and more money each month.
Ive gone for a EQE as its range, whilst not that important should mean i never even have to resort to expensive charges anymore. Its also back to driving what i deem a proper car against the fake SUV style of the EQA. Ive watched a few videos. Its rather bland in an aerodynamic type of way. It hasnt got quite the spec my Premium plus had but the extras are options i really didnt give much of a care about.
Looking forward to it
probably true but they're all big brands. They just needs some investment.Big Share drop and retreat over EV roll out
Probably as much to do with them owning lots of dinosaur brands that weren't great to start with and have failed to keep up with Koreans, Chinese and Germans.
Wife’s Hyundai inster won’t charge. Been at dealer since Saturday and not due to be looked at until Thursday. 6 months old. Looks like it might have the known Hyundai ICCU fault. I hope not (thought they had resolved this) but looking on line a few other inster owners have started to mention it. For comparison my Cupra is 2 years old and no issues (other than one or 2 initial non EV niggles).
well we got the Inster back yesterday with a new ICCU unit ( and change of coolant and de-ionised water?) The invoice states “ICCU upgrade - ax EV charging improvement ICCU GPU”, glad to see it was not a like for like change, but a different ICCU, so hopefully it won’t happen again. So it looks like these new insters have the same known Hyundai ICCU issues. Not sure why Hyundai don’t just fit the upgraded ICCU to the cars at the factory as the fault was known about before they ever launched the Inster.
probably true but they're all big brands. They just needs some investment.
Not sure about that jeep /dodge /fiat /Chrysler/lancia/were all suffering from shititus long before stelantis came along.
probably true but they're all big brands. They just needs some investment.
Not sure about that jeep /dodge /fiat /Chrysler/lancia/were all suffering from shititus long before stelantis came along.
Even as a long time Peugeot fan -stelantis have a habit of making minimum viable product and often don't hit the mark.
Well it's all news to me. Having not had a french car since a Renault 5 turbo circa 1994 and that was a pile of trouble.
Well it's all news to me. Having not had a french car since a Renault 5 turbo circa 1994 and that was a pile of trouble.
(I do wonder about these big parent companies bleeding stuff dry though.)
Let's not confuse stelantis with Renault Nissan mitsubishi who are an entirely different group.
Stelantis appear to be a VC group who buy ailing brands and try to re market them using the name - like a car version of Fraser group it seems.
I was interested in buying a second hand ev. It is interesting watching the reviews on YouTube but none of them talk about the reliability or cost and ease of repair. I know you can find the reliability surveys but cost, ease and availability of repairs would be the most useful info. For example all the reviews rate highly Kia’s cars but they also seem to have issues with motor bearings and electrical faults. Where is the best place to find this kind of info.
Most of the 'reviews' are just shilling for the EV manufacturers or selling leases - stuff like Car Wow, What Car and Everything Electric are a basically adverts. I mean what can they really tell you other than the boot is this size, look at the lovely big wheels (yuk) and oooh scratchy plastic not as good as much more expensive car brand...
When I was looking for a pre reg/demo/secondhand EV I found the only You Tube worth watching were some of the owner channels for a particular model I was interested in or those that were doing long journeys in one. I found Mr EV (Andrew Till) reasonably useful for the Megane and Kia (if you can get past his annoying family) as he has a particular model for several months and some guy in the US called the Ioniq guy has had several Hyundais for a few years. These type of channels at least give you an idea of potential issues.
Also the owner forums for a particular model are sometimes a help though they tend to be populated mainly by idiots who can't work out simple controls so its difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff
In the end I decided to kick the can down the road (so to speak) as firstly I'm not convinced my model of buying a 1 year old car outright and keeping it 10 years is viable any more due to expense of out of warranty repairs and I just hate being conned - which is where the new car industry is right now. Cars are more expensive than they have ever been and designed to be almost un repairable.
It looks like my wife is going to have access to a salary sacrifice scheme by the Spring so we'll prob do that and get something like a Scenic or an EV3. If I'm renting it I don't care as much about the car which I guess is where we are all being forced to go.
Which sucks.
Yeah, when you watch a few different channels for the same cars and noticed the same points consistently being made, even niche ones, you realise they are just saying what the manufacturer told them to!
Most of the 'reviews' are just shilling for the EV manufacturers or selling leases - stuff like Car Wow, What Car and Everything Electric are a basically adverts. I mean what can they really tell you other than the boot is this size, look at the lovely big wheels (yuk) and oooh scratchy plastic not as good as much more expensive car brand...
This - and they all say the same thing as each other “This switch has a nice damped movement and feels premium brand quality “ etc etc. identical but with a different presenter as if they haven’t bothered finding out for themselves but have simply watched a few other reviews.
Ha ha. Yes exactly what I felt. Maybe someone should start to build a repairable ev company that had open schemas and parts. That would be novel.
I went to the launch of the Megane at the dealers. I asked if they were going to do more basic models with sensibly sized less bling wheels suitable Winter tyres. Nope.
Is it me that's a million miles from the current buyer demographic or are the currently lousy sales of new EVs down to them being a million miles from the EV buyer demographic? You know, people who give a **** enough to buy an EV.
I don't want an SUV, I want a car.
I don't want a car I can barely see out of even if it's got cameras to help me park.
I don't want huge ninja wheels with rubber bands, I want steels with Cross Climates that have compliant side walls.
I don't need heated seats, electrically adjusted stuff, a television screen and a thousand things I'll never use to go wrong.
So I'm sticking with the simple first generation EV I've got - what's that doing for your sales ?
I need heated seats. Now I've had them, I'm never going back. So much quicker and more efficient to heat the person rather than the whole car.
I need everything that can be heated, heated - screen, seats, wheel, washers, mirrors....! I also need plenty of other tech as well because it's so useful. I wouldn't buy a car these days that didn't come with things like adaptive cruise, speed limit assist, mirrors that dip in reverse, rear camera, remote start, keyless entry, wireless Apple Car Play.... Plenty of models have all this sort of stuff as standard now though.
So make high end stuff for people who want it and are happy to pay for it, and something simpler and cheaper for people who want smaller steel wheels, wear a coat when its cold and are just waiting for the unnecessary tech to fail.
Speed limit assist sounds useful, the rest I doubt I'd use or have turned off if I have it.
The mirror dipping thing in reverse confused me for a moment, I dip the mirror when the car behind is on main beam, does it change the position of the door mirrors? I like cars I can turn in the seat and look out of the rear window when reversing, not many made now.
Maybe I'll just buy a renovated 2cv or 4l. I've already got the beret, striped T-shirt and old man driving habits. 🙂
I need everything that can be heated, heated - screen, seats, wheel, washers, mirrors....! I also need plenty of other tech as well because it's so useful. I
Seem to have needs and wants mixed up there.
I will never have another car that can’t be preheated from an app.
Bollocks to scraping ice off the windows in the morning. That’s for savages.
This is a need that I didn’t know I needed until I had it.
I will never have another car that can’t be preheated from an app.
Bollocks to scraping ice off the windows in the morning. That’s for savages.
This is a need that I didn’t know I needed until I had it.
I agree it’s very handy, not sure if I would pay a monthly subscription for it though. I have it free with my Cupra, but my wife’s Hyundai only had 6 months free, now she needs to pay €10 a month if she wants this feature (it was all she really used on the app). I think more features will go this way as manufacturers try to get as much €€s from customers.
does it change the position of the door mirrors?
Yep - when you engage reverse the passenger door mirror dips so you can see the kerb for parking. On my Volvo both mirrors dipped but on most cars wit his feature it's just the passenger one.
Seem to have needs and wants mixed up there.
Need/want meh. I need them to be available on my car because I want them.
I agree it’s very handy, not sure if I would pay a monthly subscription for it though.
I agree - I'm deffo not paying monthly for them. Mrs OS has a BMW that says you can pay £10 per month for adaptive main beam! £10 per month for as long as you own the car - no end date. Daylight (or in fact night time in this case) robbery that is.
not sure if I would pay a monthly subscription for it though.
Agreed - on my eUP it was free for 3 years, now £90/year - but that will shortly be irrelevant as the car requires a 3g (not 4g or 5g) connection. Even more annoying is that the app functionality isn't available on the dash - the only way to pre-warm is to unplug from the charger, put it in drive mode and turn the heater on. Fortunately it is possible to lock it with the spare key.
On principle, I refuse to pay a subscription to use the vehicle I've already paid for. These subscription services will only stick if people pay for them
Also, if you're paying a subscription for a function and it packs up, who pays for the repair? 8 bet it's me, isn't it.
So, I bought it, I'm responsible for repair if it goes wrong. I'll be damned if I'm going to pay to use it.
Seems like quite a few EVs have these types of features as standard which is good. BMW have to be one of the worst brands for inflating the prices of their already overpriced models with extras that come as standard on many others. When you go up the range on their cars most of the additions are cosmetic and any useful driving features are still extra.
These subscription services will only stick if people pay for them
Not really. They will stick because they are "free" for the first buyer who therefore won't care because they're not paying.
The car companies are not daft. They know someone paying for a lease isn't going to think about the person buying it next for even a single breath.
Second buyers and beyond will be saddled with them because in time there will be so few cars people want to buy that are not on a pay for services model to get features they want.
People like technology whether it's in cars or their fridge or toilet cistern. Many will be happy to pay because they're always paying for tech anyway, it'll just be another thing like Spotify or Strava premium etc.
Personally I think many of the driving aids a bit unnecessary not in a hair shirt way but in a wanting to be engaged in driving and paying proper attention to what I am doing way.
I don't like the operating model either fwiw but I know I'll be stuck with it at some stage.
The subscription model for features is taking the piss. Mine is free for the duration of my company car term, but the next owner will have to pay.
The VW Group one is sort of tolerable (to me) because it does at least include 4G connectivity and £6 a month (or so, it's an annual charge) isn't far off the going rate for a 4G sim deal. All the hardware type features like adaptive lights or whatever aren't SAAS. I wouldn't think twice about using something like a Carly (which has it's own SAAS license of course) to bypass that if you can.
My EV has a 'shop' menu where I can buy "new and exciting" interior lighting features including adaptive lights that glow brighter as you accelerate in Sport mode. They don't cost much, but it's not my thing, they're tied to my account though, if I buy it the next owner doesn't get them... it's all a bit snide really.
Not unique to EVs though, my previous ICE Skoda was the same, you just got a lot less features for your money.
Who says EVs can't be fun eh!
Another track day ticked off in the Polestar 2 - Bedford Autodrome this time. As I was heading up on my own (normally have @pictonroad as a passenger), I opted for coaching for the day.. this was FANTASTIC and SOOO useful!
I really learnt so much about weight transfer, getting power to the rear wheels when over steer occurs, and really learnt the line at Bedford!
Here's some raw un edited clips from a few sessions..
DrP
rapid. love the camera position.
grrrr double post.
P2 tops out at 121mph doesnt it ?
Thank you...
Top speed Should be 125mph I believe... I got to 129mph.. 🤷🏼😂
Didn't feel like it had much more from there...
And RE the camera position.. it's a mount I designed and made myself! Links to the mount are in the YT description!
DrP
Did we do the challenge being made to VAT on away from home charging. Currently it's 5% for at home because it's domestic electricity but for charging at a service station etc., it's 20%
Now has been challenged by an on-street supplier and first ruling has agreed.
Remains to be seen if the ruling is appealed or not, and even then if the saving is really passed on or kept by the suppliers based on the fact that we've been 'happy' to pay 79p or whatever up to now.
I'm two days into EV ownership. Polestar 2 long range single motor, no posh packs just base model.
310 miles, mainly motorway. 250miles in pouring rain, 0*c to 5*c in one go, so apparently terrible for EV's.
Chuff me fast chargers are expensive, but also dead easy to get the hang of. I was disappointed to sell my soul to Musk and use superchargers in Penrith. Home charging is great though, just plug and go...
The car itself is a leap in experience from the Fabia. Lots to get used to / learn, both the "Volvo vs VAG" changes, and the more plentiful tech. Things like the accelerator response and regen when slowing, whoah different. But even mrs_oab is liking how simple it is to press pedals and go. Screen is still not as easy as buttons but there is a big knob to use for stereo.
Gear selector is just pointless.
Parking - it's a much bigger wagon, and despite sensors and reverse camera, it's a big wagon to park backwards...
However winging over Shap in the dark with amazing headlights, heated seat, banging stereo and full Volvo waftage felt great...
Assume you've downloaded the app so you can pre-heat the car before you get back to it. Or schedule it if you've a regular commute. Mine goes back in Aug and it's possible I'll just buy another, need to dest drive some alteratives soon.
Hi DrP.
It was indeed 129 MPH.
Great day with some interesting weather!
Whilst driving home the penny dropped as to who you were, I haven’t been here for a long time (or ridden a bike actually). A couple of things you mentioned gave it a way.
So I thought I’d have a look to see if my hunch was right. Checked WRPT first then saw this thread.
Hope Woburn wasn’t too wet today and you had a good ride.
Great to have met you, I remember some of your threads from years ago.
All the best,
Richard.
Assume you've downloaded the app so you can pre-heat the car before you get back to it. Or schedule it if you've a regular commute. Mine goes back in Aug and it's possible I'll just buy another, need to dest drive some alteratives soon.
App downloaded, two accounts created on car and in app for mrs_oab and I. The only hassle so far has been getting mrs_oab phone to set up as a digital key - it just doesn't seem to work. Still trying to work out if I can make it so Key1/DigitalKey1 pops the seat in Memory1, and similarly for Key2/DigitalKey2/seatmemory2...
Also if key1 will open mrs_oab's user profile and key2 mine...
Anyone know?
(This will put an end to 3 decades of me having to back seat off from steering wheel before I can get in a car...)
Richard.. forgive me as my memory is terrible!!
Did i see you on track then??!!
Cheers!
DrP
@matt - i believe you can set up different user profiles for different keys, and thus the seats etc should move to their positions.
if you have any issues or questions about teh p2, do fire away. I'm far from an expert, but had been in, under, and around my car many MANY times!!
DrP
Cheers - will go and sit in it again for an hour tonight and see if I can work it out. At worse case we have to just press the seat memory button when getting in, but it would be nice to get it to set seat and things according to who opens it...
Assume you've downloaded the app so you can pre-heat the car before you get back to it. Or schedule it if you've a regular commute. Mine goes back in Aug and it's possible I'll just buy another, need to dest drive some alteratives soon.
App downloaded, two accounts created on car and in app for mrs_oab and I. The only hassle so far has been getting mrs_oab phone to set up as a digital key - it just doesn't seem to work. Still trying to work out if I can make it so Key1/DigitalKey1 pops the seat in Memory1, and similarly for Key2/DigitalKey2/seatmemory2...
Also if key1 will open mrs_oab's user profile and key2 mine...
Anyone know?
(This will put an end to 3 decades of me having to back seat off from steering wheel before I can get in a car...)
When you say 'it just doesn't seem to work' what do you mean?
Can you get a digital key onto Mrs OAB's phone, if you can does it open the car etc?
It was a bit of a faff setting up the digital key on my P4. In the end I use the digital key and Mrs OTS uses the fob with the guest profile set to her seat alignment - but she only drives it once every few months, so not really an issue.
You don't have 2 keys in the car when trying to set things up by accident. I had a bit of a moment when I realised that my Apple Watch also had my phone's key on it when trying to setup profiles for OTS Junior 🙄
I've found the P4 Facebook groups good for advice.
I did at the end of the faffage last night realise I needed to not have two phones and two keys in the car...!
It is just not setting up the digital key - gave it 10mins+ to 'do its thing' and it just sits with the spinning 'setting up digital key, this can take up to 2 minutes thing.
I will also go search the car - the dealership gave me one key, and on the way home I discovered a second (activity) key in the frunk cable bag....
DrP.
Sat next to you all day 😂
Cheers,
Richard.
OH!!!!!!!!! 🤣 🤣 🤣
Richard = Dicky!!!! The penny finally dropped!
Well, thank you again for such great tuition! I've got the feedback form to fill in, and will honestly all be really positive!
When I get a chance I'll edit together all the clips into a slightly more appealing video!
Cheers again!
DrP
My Enyaq is in for it's service...and in overnight as the emergency breakdown thing is broken and a new part is needed.
Headlights, apparently they were completely out of alignment (which has been fixed) and they have also fixed the issue where I can't set the dipped beam level (when I'm carrying 3 bikes on the back, the dipped beam dazzles drivers and I can't lower the beam) - apparently I can now.
Not quite sure what is included in the service but it sounded like 3 things - brake fluid, pollen filter and something else.
Glad it is a lease car and I'm not paying for any of this!
I'm hoping they give it a charge before I pick it up...