I really want something more pokey than my f31 320d,and would love a 335d or 340i but the cheapest way is to remap my current car but I’m wary of the insurance costs and safety of RWD and more power - this mornings 5:30am London-Gloucester on a near freezing wet A40 being a point in hand.
(Re reliability, It’s been utterly reliable until the l/h front brake seized onto the disc today just outside Cirencester after i stopped in garage. A bit of reverse/forward slam on brakes freed it but I had a squeaky bum journey back to London).
What do I need to know about remaps…?
If you can find one - Passat R36, 300bhp V6, 4wd. I had the Sport 140bhp 2wd diesel flavour and that was a dream to drive
Loving my F31 335d. A remap won’t give you the feeling you get from a twin turbo straight six diesel. It’s so smooth & linear in its delivery. A pleasure to potter about in and relentless when you want it to be.
I’ve still got my 2009 E91 335i Touring with 81k on the clock. I think it’s plenty big enough (as long as you don’t want 3 in the back) and way faster than anyone needs. It’s a lovely car to drive and feels like a new car to me. Will be sold for an EV at some stage.
I’d post a picture but dont know how.
Woody
Regarding remaps and insurance, they don't make that much of an impact on the cost in my experience. My somewhat standard looking '09 S4 Avant costs me £330 a year, not much more than my wife's Honda 4x4, and mine is putting out 170bhp more than it had from the factory.
A remap won’t give you the feeling you get from a twin turbo straight six diesel. It’s so smooth & linear in its delivery.
Yeah, I kind of knew this when I posted it goes without saying really - I owed an e46 330i previously. I’ve soon to choose a company phev/electric so the BM will remain for the weekend, so I probably need to choose a toy car replacement - a 335d or something else - hence watching this thread closely 🙂
Loving my F31 335d. A remap won’t give you the feeling you get from a twin turbo straight six diesel. It’s so smooth & linear in its delivery. A pleasure to potter about in and relentless when you want it to be
Slight hi-jack
On the subject of remapping , I would like to get my x3 35d done. Who is a reputable reaper to go to?
Thanks
I like estate cars. My 3 previous cars were all estates
- 3.0 V6 diesel Vauxhall Signum. Strange car, was trying to hard to be german and not pull it off. Very barge like. I suppose it was a big hatchback than an estate really
- BMW 525d, but most importantly it was a rare manual. Took me a while to find one. Was strangely nice to drive
- E class estate after that. That was huge inside, much bigger than the BMW. The only thing that was more practical on the 5 series was the rear glass opening separately. I loved that feature on it
With 3 kids and a dog even the biggest estates are too small for family life. That's a real shame. You're generally left with MPVs (I still have self respect 🙂 ) and SUVs, which we really don't need. We ended up with a T6 Kombi, more practical than an estate and I love it. But estates are still so cool! Funny how saloons are less of a thing now than they were, particularly at the smaller end of the spectrum
I always loved the idea of an
@mrmoofo there are loads of places around the country that will do it, probably easiest to go to one near you in case you have any issues. Or if you're IT savvy you can get bootmod3 and do it yourself. I've used Evolve in Luton to get my cars remapped and have not had any issues on previous cars.
Prefer it to the 320D which it replaced and cost less than a bike.
i honestly cant tell what that is.
Avensis of bland?
Absolutely! Bland XS Mk 3 GT Turbo.
You should probably avoid Autotrader
Haha sods law, they do come up for sale once on a blue moon.
Re remaps, they're so common now that they usually barely hurt your insurance (I think also this is a result of how invisible they are, if they charged more then less people would declare it). Varies a lot from car to car, with my mondeo i only got a little more power but the difference in drivability was phenomenal (they'd basically gimped the stock map to make it "easier to drive" because it had a bucket of torque and no traction control). But it was 100% benefit- more power, better economy when cruising, better drivability. Don't think it even paid for itself but that's a bit beside the point.
Not all cars will take to it as well- on a standard car it's more or less a case of "how good is the stock map" and these days that largely means "is it intentionally less good than it could be", for emissions or reliability or ease of driving or model differentiation.
budgierider67
Full MemberA remap won’t give you the feeling you get from a twin turbo straight six diesel.
True but then almost nothing else will except from sitting on a Falcon 9. I love that about fat diesels, even if they're not actually spectacularly fast- like my old mondingo- it still feels like being shoved forward by the hand of god, because it just feels like it never ends or changes.
I forgot to comment earlier. Big sleeper barge - W8 passat estate
It's just a boring old passat to most people
True but then almost nothing else will except from sitting on a Falcon 9. I love that about fat diesels, even if they’re not actually spectacularly fast- like my old mondingo- it still feels like being shoved forward by the hand of god, because it just feels like it never ends or changes.
I'd love this. Looking around today I've found a couple of 335d Xdrives of the same vintage - 2017 - that could replace my 320d albeit they are higher mileage. But thats 7-10k of cost, vs £450 for a remap from 187 to 235bhp / 400 to 550Nm (all approx.) Plus of course the drivability issue.
But it was 100% benefit- more power, better economy when cruising, better drivability.
Probably worse NOx emissions.
isnt there a forum member who has some actual expertise in engine mapping? i'm sure he's been on here and scathing in the past about the aftermarket remaps.
maxtorque?
just avoid the tiprontic auto thing in the w8 passat, I went manual and its loads better and more useable
I wish I never started reading back up on remaps - my engine can be mapped to 821 torques and recieve 100 extra horses for less than the cost of a base SRAM groupset. Saying that when it goes bang and the warranty is invalid or more likely I boot it in the wet and end up in a ditch.....
I think @maxtorque (or whoever it was) was the one working for an OEM on stock engine maps.
My car has 204bhp from 2.1l. People on forums say 'wow I wonder how much power I'd get if I remapped it!' and the answer is not much more. The reason it's such high specific power is that it's already had its balls tuned off and Merc have fitted two turbos.
That said I think it's an air-air intercooler so there's still room for physical mods.
molgrips
Full MemberProbably worse NOx emissions.
Still had all the emissions gear functional- no EGR delete or anything- so I'd be suprised if it made much difference. As a non-city car it's not really a big concern.
Saying that when it goes bang
I've a concern about the auto box / drivetrain, is it designed for the extra stress?
Still had all the emissions gear functional- no EGR delete or anything- so I’d be suprised if it made much difference
As far as I can tell the only way a remap would increase fuel economy and engine response is by advancing injection timing and reducing the amount of EGR. Which would increase emissions.
Here's my old B7 Audi a4 Avant 2.0T Special Edition (220bhp petrol version)
The petrol versions were built on the same production line as the B7 S4, RS4 and A4 DTM model (shares various parts from all three models)
Kinda wish i kept it now, plan was to buy a B7 RS4 Avant but the running costs and engine rebuild prices put me off
Went and bought a 2016 Ford Focus ST3 to relive my old Escort RS Turbo days
If my wife gets a job that doesn't need driving to we might go down to one car, and a Passat GTE estate would fit the bill. Not old but they are quite quick.
This will definitely be the next estate car I own
Just take some brave pills and enter this
https://dreamcargiveaways.co.uk/current-competitions/750hp-audi-rs6-v10-twin-turbo-2500
My boss has one of them. Hope you’ve got deep pockets…
My boss has one of them. Hope you’ve got deep pockets…
Already got this, it would be a natural progression
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Just take some brave pills and enter this
God no - the C6 V10's ARE expensive to maintain
Yeah but this one has already exploded it’s gearbox once, so it must be good now!
I asked at a dealer once about an R36 Passat and they told me I didn't want one. Went and bought a petrol turbo A4 quattro estate instead. Was lovely until the engine started drinking oil...
Am currently on a 330e x-drive, which certainly has some shove when all the electric and petrol work in harmony, but if feels about double the weight of the audi when it comes to stopping and turning. I miss a manual gearbox too.
So much want for this....
I just found a great car on Auto Trader:
Ah balls - it won't link. Izusu Vehicross for JDM 3.2l 215hp estate SUV weirdness. Only one on Autotrader
the C6 V10’s ARE expensive to maintain
ISTR that they were actually the most expensive car to maintain in the world at the time - more even than top-end Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Koenigseggs. But I'd rather have the RS6 than one of the supercars.
Here’s my old B7 Audi a4 Avant 2.0T Special Edition (220bhp petrol version)
snap - mine shat itself quite catastrophically when a bolt came loose, fell into the crank pulley and got fired through important engine bits. Unlucky maybe, or just inevitable - it's an engine well known for dying for various reasons related to the hydrodynamic camshafts. Was always impressed how it didn't run out of puff at high revs like most modern turbo petrols. I do miss the motorway pleasantness when trudging around in a Jazz nowadays but not enough compared to the constant fear of more failures. The sticker was from a previous owner...
Nice Audis up there, here’s ours. C6 A6, petrol 2.8FSI. I don’t think there’s many about here in the UK, yet to see another of this variant around.
Just ticked over to 80K miles in our 5 years ownership bought at 50K and so far (touches wood) been service items only, not that fast, but effortless V6 with 211BHP and S line guise, no real point in looking to remap as gains are negligible, drives beautifully.
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A lad i work with actually won a car in one of those dream car lotteries.
He now runs an RS3 and probably earns 25k pa.
29p super noodles for lunch as all of his disposable income gets allocated to running costs.
Tis a thing of wonder though. But £2,000 for discs and pads is crazy money.
I've got an old, fast, big estate - a 2003 Merc E55 with 476bhp.
It's hilarious. It looks like (and is!) an old tatty estate car, never gets washed, but it goes like the clappers and sounds every bit as good as you'd expect from a 5.4 supercharged V8.
My favourite quote was from my old boss, who described it as "being able to pass damn nearly anything on the road apart from a petrol station".
A V10 Audi RS6 has always had a fair bit of appeal but I think I'd be constantly worried about the costs if anything went even slightly wrong! Same with the V10 M5 touring.
A V10 Audi RS6 has always had a fair bit of appeal but I think I’d be constantly worried about the costs if anything went even slightly wrong! Same with the V10 M5 touring.
The C7 V8 twin turbo is a massively better car
Always fancied a V10 M5 in either saloon or touring, but the engines and clutches are prone to go bang. Lethal in the wet too
snap – mine shat itself quite catastrophically when a bolt came loose, fell into the crank pulley and got fired through important engine bits.
Must of been quite lucky with mine then
Bought at 99'000 miles and sold with 130'000 miles on the clock, nothing in the service history to point towards any major issues and all i had to do was routine maintaince
Mine was on the 10'000 mile/once a year service plan all its life
The B7 A4's which spent their lives on the longlife service plans (20'000 miles/every two years) seem to be the ones that have had quite a few issues
not sure if I love it or hate it, but the new hoonicorn is a big old fast estate..