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First came across this guy a year ago. Din't know what to make of him at first. My initial thoughts were that he was a college educated Liberal Hamming it up as a 'woke' redneck.
Turns out he's an ex military contractor who went off the rails to become a survivalist anarchist turned journalist. Quite a character!
However, his analysis of why and how things happen in videos like the one just posted is astonishingly articulate. On another video he breaks down the Nascar / battle flag debate perfectly as well.
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MemberI’m not sure I agree with that TBH. The police were arriving at a scene where they were expecting an armed crazy guy. It turned out that said guy was indeed crazy, and armed (yes, apparently only with a BB gun, although the police didn’t know that). When a crazy guy with a gun ignores the firm requests of police and reaches for his gun, I can’t really fault the police for wanting to stop themselves getting shot.
I mean, there are loads of other worrying issues at play, such as why do so many people own guns in the states, access to mental health support, homelessness etc. But I’m not sure this is an egregious case of police brutality. We’ve seen lots of footage of terrible crimes committed by police. This morally ambiguous video moves the conversation away from those terrible crimes.
You have got to be kidding me, right? Did you watch the same video as everyone else? Did you not just see an old homeless man get executed by firing squad? There's no ambiguity about it, this is extra-judicial murder.
**** it!
Is that a video of a man being shot dead?
US police have prior form for firing squads when it comes to the mentally-disabled/emotionally-disturbed/homeless. I’ve seen a few shocking videos over the years of them ‘disarming’ the homeless and/or mentally-disturbed. Some of the victims had shopping bags on them, others brandishing a penknife in fear for their life*
*Milton Hall. He was 49 and they fired near as many bullets to make sure he was killed. Cops all walked away scot-free IIRC
https://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/2017/07/milton_hall_discussion_focused.html
You have to wonder if a US senator or chief of police (or wealthy soccer-mom or celebrity) were to have a similar break-down/lose his or her marbles and brandish a penknife in a car-park... would the same death-squad approach be used?
Is that a video of a man being shot dead?
Yes. Certainly looked like that was the outcome.
Basically a state sanctioned death squad in action.
It was a vid of a chap who had been reported for having a firearm in a motel room.He did exactly as was instructed(crawling on the floor towards the officers) but was shot anyway.I played it for a few neighbours and friends during a party and they couldn't believe it.Chap was murdered plain and simple.
His name was Daniel Shaver and he was killed by the Mesa police if anybody wants to see how outrageously american police can behave.The officer was fired after being cleared in court and re-hired elsewhere.
Good example of how our government works, black kids twice as likely to be on free school meals as white kids
Johnson had to be humiliated into extending free school meals
consciously racist or just couldnt give a crap about the poorest?
Inkster, cheers for the YouTube vid above, I’ve since watched a few of his other videos regarding the police and he speaks a helluva lot of sense.
****s sake 🙁
Indianapolis's finest forgetting that you're supposed to grab them by the pu**y
Somafunk,
YouTube rabbit holes do throw up some gems sometimes, The Beau of the fifth column guy had me fooled for a bit, at first I thought it was some John Olver like Daily show sketch, it just seemed so well scripted. Finding out he was a journalist made sense of to all.
I loved his breakdown of NASCAR where he identified that through its origins in moonshine running and resenting where their tax dollars went Nascar was built on the idea of defunding the police!
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First came across this guy a year ago. Din’t know what to make of him at first. My initial thoughts were that he was a college educated Liberal Hamming it up as a ‘woke’ redneck.Turns out he’s an ex military contractor who went off the rails to become a survivalist anarchist turned journalist. Quite a character!
However, his analysis of why and how things happen in videos like the one just posted is astonishingly articulate. On another video he breaks down the Nascar / battle flag debate perfectly as well.
Posted 22 hours ago
cheers for this, been watching loads of videos of his since you posted. Guys very good, people should watch. A good rabbit hole to go down. Talks a lot of sense.
Through watching quite a few of Beau of the fifth videos i watched eisenhowers final address to the nation on the rise of the military industrial complex, quite spooky how this was being prophesied 70years ago by a republican president, it is well worth 15mins of your time to watch
I find the language used to describe the statue protectors and Millwall fans interesting, calling out racism has become more offensive than calling someone a ****. Only Boris and Humza have called them out.
https://twitter.com/HumzaYousaf/status/1273310355645702145?s=09
That Beau of the fifth stuff is surprising, though provoking and just great to listen to.
Yeah it’s a salve at times like this to have confirmation that a sensible voice of reason and thoughtful discourse can exist and thrive, 320k followers who watch a guy in his shed talk for a few minutes and get his point of view across without the need for inflammatory prose and hysterical gesticulations. We all should be a bit more “Beau” in life.
I’ve been watching a few per night starting with his 1st/oldest vid, guess I’ll be watching for a long time as he has quite a few vids uploaded.
Sat in his shed dispensing wisdom as he does, Beau of the fifth reminds me of Jack Hargreaves in his 'Out of Town' 70's TV show. (Showing your age if you get that reference) That mixed with a swig of 'Southern Comfort'
I've been following a few YouTube channels the last couple of years, (mostly music reaction channels) and the thing ive foind most interesting with the U.S. ones is that I find myself listening to voices not from NYC or L.A. but the South and the Mid West. It helps paint a far more complex picture of American society and the best channels establish a kind of empathy and trust that traditional media find hard to achieve.
It was interesting when lockdown how when streaming from home, the established broadcasters looked like the amateurs whilst the established Youtubers looked like the professionals.
Do ministers no longer get briefed on what is happening in the world, I know Raab C ****wit has form for this but for crying out loud...
but for crying out loud…
My comments exactly when he asked where did it come from... Game of Thrones.
This is just crazy......
.....the attitude of the officer is appalling.
Do ministers no longer get briefed on what is happening in the world, I know Raab C **** has form for this but for crying out loud…
Never forget, this is the man who, as Brexit secretary, was genuinely surprised to discover that as an island we were quite dependent on the channel ports for our imports. He's as thick as mince and about as emotionally intelligent as a house brick.
Even by the standards of this gang of clowns though, this is quite breathtakingly stupid
Just read this little gem at the bottom of the Guardian article
Asked whether he would take the knee to show solidarity with Black Lives Matter, Raab said he would not, adding: “I’d take the knee for two people: the Queen and the Mrs when I asked her to marry me.”
On the subject of his wife he added: “By the way, she disputes that. I had this conversation with her last night. I’m sure I did, but we’d obviously had too much champagne at the time. But I’m certain I did.”
Jesus wept!
Rusty, that article is terrible, all the good things she's done are irrelevant. The real question is why was she stopped, everything else is guff and not helpful. It really shows what's wrong on both sides of the current racism debate.
It's difficult to tell what the real reason for stopping her in the first place was, tinted windows, at night, not feeling very plausible, but if there is any truth to it how did they know who was in the car? But probably the officers were out of order, certainly seems a weak pre-text for a stop a search. From the comments the officers were making though they may have been acting on some (incorrect) intelligence that hasn't been shared or reported. The comments about it not adding up would be racist in the extreme if they couldn't get their head around the fact that a person of colour might not actually be doing anything wrong.
However she failed to comply with a reasonable request, are all people of colour allowed to play the I don't trust the police card if they are stopped? I know there are significant issues still within parts of the police as there are with the rest of our society but we're still a long way from the States where a Black person is justifiably scared of an interaction with the police costing them their life. She apparently suffered personal trauma at some point, again how are the police supposed to know that.
Reporting incidents like this is just as polarising as the the thugs out on the streets 'protecting' statues.
Flame away, I'm sure you'll want to.
Stumpyjohn,
You just don't get it.
However she failed to comply with a reasonable request
Sure. But a good police officer is going to be curious as to why she is failing to comply. It's not unreasonable to be stopped as a motorist for any number of reasons by the cops, so her reaction would be odd, and arguably it's his job to what he can do about it.
It really shows what’s wrong on both sides of the current racism debate.
There are terrible, terrible people. On both sides.
From the comments the officers were making though they may have been acting on some (incorrect) intelligence that hasn’t been shared or reported.
Inventing bollocks, to justify the unjustifiable, you should join the police. 🙂
I was assuming that stumpyjohn was a member of the police? I know that there's a few that post on here.
It would be interesting to hear a few of their opinions given the current circumstances. Are they just keeping their heads low? I would genuinely be interested if some of them were to join the discussion.
Just catching up on Dominic Raab's Trump tribute act. It's a bit like if Thatcher had dismissed the IRA as being inspired by Star Wars. Probably worse if fact, because with his idiotic comments he's suggesting that by taking a symbolic knee black people and their supporters are in fact subjugating themselves to the very people they're resisting. Astonishing!
I imagine if you asked that woman how many times she or a member of her family had been stopped and questioned by the police for no justifiable reason they could produce a list as long as your arm.
I, and no one in my family has ever been ‘randomly’ stopped by the police and would be shocked if we were. We’re white of course.
That’s why she’s stroppy - a lifetime of harassment.
because with his idiotic comments he’s suggesting that by taking a symbolic knee black people and their supporters are in fact subjugating themselves to the very people they’re resisting.
It's truly staggering the lack of comprehension being openly exhibited from someone who is actually our foreign secretary. He seems to have not the slightest inkling of what this is all about. No understanding whatsoever. And more importantly no obvious desire to develop any understanding either.
The ignorance is absolutely breathtaking. But let's be honest, it's hardly surprising in this gang of Berxiteer numbskulls, is it? With their petty, small-minded, insular, backward-gazing, little Englander attitudes
That may well be so but as we keep hearing we (white people) don't understand that.
To call it unprofessional is one thing, racist is quite another.
X2 on irrelevant details, if it was the DM we'd know how much the lawyers house cost by now. It's all fluff.
What isn't mentioned is how the passenger was treated during the exchange.
Squirrelking.
I think you'll find that all this "fluff" makes for excellent kindling.
because with his idiotic comments he’s suggesting that by taking a symbolic knee black people and their supporters are in fact subjugating themselves to the very people they’re resisting.
Martin Luther King "took the knee" when leading a prayer in 1965. That's before God. Not Dominic Raab's wife.
I noticed there was an article about Covid 19 in Neukölln in the Guardian and read it out of curiosity as junior lives there. The guardian article gives the impression it's Nekölln that's locked down when in fact it's just a few buildings.
Then I saw the word "Roma" and thought WTF, what's that got to do with it?
The mayor of Neukölln, Martin Hikel, said authorities were trying to trace the origins of a new cluster of about 70 infections and had placed more than 370 families, many of them Roma, in quarantine. “We still don’t know the full extent of it,” he told Der Spiegel. “It is proof the pandemic is still very much alive.”
Let's have a look how it's reported in Berlin I thought:
The article explains that the outbreak concerns some of the poorest people and that it's thought a church service is the source of the outbreak. The word "Roma" is not used.
My view is that the German press understands that giving the ethnic origin of an infected group could result in them being (further) stigmatised but the Guardian is happy to stigmatise because it's racist.
the Guardian is happy to stigmatise because it’s racist.
That's the same Guardian you were happy to take as Gospel and slag someone off for taking the inference of their reporting to form a possible explaination? That you're now taking the inference of their reporting to form a possible explaination.
Right you are then.
You need a quote for that Squirelking, even better a page number. I've no idea what you're refering to.
A paper can quote facts (gospel) in such a way that it becomes racist. If you remember I've also accused the Guardian of being xenophobic and anti-European in the past because it reports very little on Europe and when it does cherry picks negative stories givign only part of the inforamation - as it has here on the German Cluster. This time it points at the Roma as if they were the only ones affected and somehow guilty rather than the victims.
They're at it again today with a story about Dijon which paints the town as having useless police and being a drugs nest in which the poor innocent Chechens have to defend themselves.
The Guardian forgets to mention that the Chechen mob was made up of people who had travelled from afar armed with assault rifles and automatic pistols, that the police were intent of avoiding escalation and should be congratualted on managing an explosive situation with nobody getting killed or seriously injured, and that the Chechen leaders words were both inaccurate and provocative.
Check out social media for videos of the events and read some local media sources for comparison
The other Europena stories in the Guardian today are some stereotying of the French:
And the Columbus statue in Barcelona, a attempt at they're as bad/worse than us with it's "dark history".
Read soem European papers to find out what really happening.
I'm talking about
Inventing bollocks, to justify the unjustifiable, you should join the police.
In response to
From the comments the officers were making though they may have been acting on some (incorrect) intelligence that hasn’t been shared or reported.
Which, from the article would appear to be a perfectly valid conclusion based on
Officers searched Bennett’s car but found nothing. “They kept saying to each other: ‘This is not adding up,’” said Bennett. “It’s like I wasn’t fitting the narrative they had."
So it's perfectly fine for you to do it but if someone else does it they're inventing bollocks?
And yet again you back up your argument with a load of sources in another language rather than explaining why these versions are better. This might come as a shock but like most folk in this country I don't speak another language to the sort of fluency levels that I can read other papers, I thought someone as smart as you would realise that.
As for French police not being racist LMAO. I remember a tale of my father and mother in law visiting Paris where, every time she asked for milk with her tea she got a filthy look. Eventually my father in law asked why and was informed, with a sneer, "only p***s take milk with tea". That's the sort of everyday attitudes you're telling me don't indicate societal never mind institutional racism? But then I forget, the French can do no wrong in your eyes.
As for French police not being racist LMAO.
I didn't say that or even imply it, I said the police were intent on avoiding escalation. There's justified debate and protest about racism in the police here too.
I remember a tale
Yeah, just that, a tale.
tale
/teɪl/
noun
noun: tale; plural noun: tales1.
a fictitious or true narrative or story, especially one that is imaginatively recounted.
"a delightful children's tale"
Use Google translate for anything you don't understand, it works very well. If you're interested in what's happening in Europe you'll have to use foreign sources, unless you like the spin the Anglos-Saxon press puts on events.
Some reports suggested Chechens had travelled to Dijon from all over France as well as neighbouring Belgium and Germany.
Edukator:
The Guardian forgets to mention that the Chechen mob was made up of people who had travelled from afar
The Guardian forgets to mention that the Chechen mob was made up of people who had travelled from afar armed with assault rifles and automatic pistols,
If you're going to quote people at least get as far as the first comma. Where does the Guardian mention the fact they were armed? That was my point. By selectively missing out important details you can change who appears to be in the wrong. By only quoting one side you do a disservice to your readers. It would have been fair to quote the representative of both sides wouldn't it rather than just one highly biased insert suitable adjectives here.