Forum menu
Even the head of the local Police force recognised that sometimes, the right thing to do is for once take the side of the little man.
I was pretty impressed how they handled it tbh.
The Bristol police certainly made the right decision given the circumstances, though you have to ask wether police stepping back is to do with intelligent decision making or complete lack of resources. In Bristol it does look like the former but nationwide I'm not so sure.
Where I live in Manchester there has been for a few years now certain estates which have become no-go zones for the police. If they enter the estates they get attacked because the gangs know they outnumber the police.
I see Boris has weighed in on the subject via his pals favourite medium of communication, ****ter.
I hope a known racist commenting doesn't inflame things.
There's a sea of change amongst The Merchant Venturers in Bristol
https://twitter.com/SMVBristol/status/1271524079510700032?s=09
*Edit it's worth reading their statement in the thread
Faerie,
The people of Bristol had pursued the democratic process and seemed to have come to a resolution only to by thwarted at the last minute by the merchant venturers, the least democratic of institutions. (A similar situation exists around the Cecil Rhodes sculpture in Oxford.)
The response from the Merchant Venturers is positive. I took your advice and dug into the thread, where opinion seems to be equally divided between 'too little, too late' and 'better late than never.'
Better late than never for me, the response itself made no excuses. It has also exposed how the influence of non elected bodies can arrest the democratic process and how this pertains to the governance and development of the city in General. So a win for BLM and a win for democracy in general.
Far right thugs giving Nazi salutes now whilst ‘protecting‘ the Churchill statue. Beyond irony.
Did they not get the memo that BLM-LDN cancelled the protest scheduled for today, 3 days ago. So now the police are protecting a statue, from people who are protecting a statue from people who aren't even there.
'Lads' Army
Was it, as Boris says 'absurd and shamefull' when the statue of Churchill was boarded off last year for the million mask March? Or for the May Day protests in 2001? Or when the occupy protests happened in 2008?
Seems to me that every 5 years or so the authorities make a sensible decision when there's a threat of protests getting out of control. In any other time a Mayor of London would have been seen to be doing the right thing.
Yup shame that a "lads army" has to step in and protect public property from vandalism.
Surely the cops should be doing that ? That's what tax payers pay them for
Absolute state of them
'lad's army' - the hard of thinking.
Is that video genuine?, are they really chanting that?
sounds dubbed to me
Yeah the kick drum is overlayed for sure, i dont have much confidence in the audio at all.
It’s a looped audio from some other incident.
Don’t know who ‘prolestar’ news is but their factchecking/hearing is appalling. Note that 100’s of people have said as much on twitter but prolestar haven’t yet removed the bogus clip. That’s not just stupid it’s horribly dishonest and just serves to worsen the situation they are claiming to protest.
For the majority of those that have turned up today it's got nothing to do with protecting statues. It was about getting tanked up and looking for a ruck. Or from the footage I've seen it was about running towards the police, doing some kind of flappy dance and then running backwards.
Looking at twitter it seems the fash have been split up and are being hunted down and being given a kicking all around London :thumbsup:
That sort of shit is exactly what antifascists are actually for, takes me back...
Looking at twitter it seems the fash have been split up and are being hunted down and being given a kicking all around London :thumbsup:
Every instance of this I've seen is a masked gang surrounding a random person percieved as vunerable, generally one of their own, hitting them from behind before pilling in. Sounds like nothing new today unless you have footage.
Johnson wanted these clowns on his side in the culture war
Now he owns this
Funny that the right wing press were so excited about how BLM were going to trash the statues, but now it's the far right thugs that they , Farage, Robinson, Johnson, Patel etc whipped up who are literally pissing on memorials
Far right thugs giving Nazi salutes now whilst ‘protecting‘ the Churchill statue. Beyond irony.
Any evidence of this? I searched in google images “ nazi salute london protest london 2020” and found nothing on the first page. The protestor seem to have both hands extending upwards, is this the new nazi salute?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/13/black-lives-matter-protests-london-statues-racism-churchill/amp/ racism-churchill/amp/
Scroll down to 12.40pm
Don't entertain baboon
Its beautiful seeing all the facists crying on twitter/facebook about being smashed out of London
That’s a scary level of racism, for those of us with young mixed/black kids.
The BBC described it as protesters 'attacking police & raising their arms'
😏
Kryton57
Subscriber
That’s a scary level of racism, for those of us with young mixed/black kids.
Agreed
So many people desperate to try & make out these guys aren't racists too 🙄
They’re either racists or ****s or both
10 year jail sentences for desecrating war memorials apparently. At least that's what the government are planning to introduce according to the Telegraph.
Murderers get less. They are literally valuing property more than life. This isn't so much a piece of proposed legislation as a fatwa, a blasphemy law.
This government are face planting their way into history with the same alacrity as Edward Colston.
inkster - a different perspective is that murder sentences should be heavier.
You might want to broaden your range of sources; the torygraph cannot be used as being representative - unless, of course you are sir herbert gusset or 'angry from tunbridge wells' and use green ink.
BTW, I don't think you're sir herbert and you don't live in tunbridge wells but....you get my point.
Pissed up shit-heads and losers showing clearly who and what they are.
Inarticulate drunks with nothing better to do with their time; their usual flat roof pub hangouts are closed so they point and grunt at statues with absolutely zero understanding of the individuals on the statues, the history of the subjects and the times in which they lived.
Thick as pig shit.
A few may have a modicum of intelligence but it is hugely misguided.
The meat-heads don't have the basic intelligence to know they are being used.
'Protecting' a state of Churchill whist making a nazi salute? Referring to them half-wits is far too generous; microcephalous idiots is a better description
What did the daleks repeat in Dr Who? Was it....exterminate, exterminate
I can give the daleks a target group.
Maajid Nawaz (LBC) set out a reasonably coherent explanation for what’s happening on his show today as follows:
- the New York Times has run two articles on Russia‘s intention to stir up racial conflict in the USA to ensure Trump gets re-elected - the most recent being:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/politics/russian-interference-race.html
- Russian and Chinese social media bots have been seeding social discord on both sides of the Atlantic with hundreds of thousands of fake Black Lives Matter social media accounts that have stirred things up in the USA and the U.K. (the latter by focussing on Churchill). Twitter have confirmed this but Facebook have yet to confirm:
China is stoking racial conflict to avoid scrutiny of Covid and its cover up.
Lastly, Russia has been stoking up tension by simultaneously pumping Black Lives Matter AND funding the hard right e.g. supporting Tommy Robinson:
Why was scumbag Tommy in Russia and who was he meeting?
The Socialist Workers Party (hard left) have been pulling the strings with BLM U.K.
So we basically have Russia simultaneously fuelling the hard left and hard right in the Uk in order to fan disorder and willingly enabled by social media companies. Likewise China has been helping out to distract the world.
If this is correct, everyone is being played by China and Russia.
Russian and Chinese social media bots have been seeding social discord on both sides of the Atlantic with hundreds of thousands of fake Black Lives Matter social media accounts that have stirred things up in the USA and the U.K. (the latter by focussing on Churchill). Twitter have confirmed this but Facebook have yet to confirm:
The linked Forbes article doesn't mention any Churchill stuff
Lastly, Russia has been stoking up tension by simultaneously pumping Black Lives Matter
Likewise no mention of BLM in the other link
Nawaaz is a bit of a crank, no?
A more coherent story is that people are pissed off with systemic racism & Nazi ****s don't like it (& Tommy just wants exposure so he'll happily go to Russia where he'll get a far friendlier reception from the government)
Both China and Russia gain from fomenting disruption in democracies on all issues; in US, for example, it runs from George Floyd through to presidential election.
The subjects of their interference are not the biggest issue.
The fact they can, and do, interfere at will without any significant pushback should scare all of us absolutely shit-less.
To use a hackneyed phrase '....we're through the looking glass here people'.
Vlad has certainly impaled donny on....something; Xi is the '....yellow peril' made real.
Saturday's events in the UK have been typified by pissed-up, inarticulate meat-heads; they have, very effectively, ended their 'cause'.
The despicable bag of cells masquerading as a 'human being' who pissed on/near to pc keith palmer's memorial should be named, shamed and get 10 years - or a garotte.
Don’t entertain baboon
Did I dare to disagree or ask for sources? By entering that google search I should see plentiful of nazi salutes I would have thought. What I have seen in videos and images, are people raising both hands up, the same way football fans do. Nobody is denying the may be far right...
Frank,
You've lost me. I simply quote the headline from the Telegraph and you say that the intel might not be 100% on that one.
The Telegraph, the same telegraph that floats every prospective Tory policy to test the water. The same Telegraph in which Tory ministers post more op eds than they do in all the other papers put together. The same Telegraph that Boris.....oh well.
What's the likelihood of the law getting passed? Close to zero. The point is this is the narrative the gov't are pushing through their favourite outlet.
When you say I might broaden my range of sources what the he'll are you on about?
EDIT,
I googled the term gaslighting, now I get what you're on about.
Of course Russia and China stand to gain from sowing discord. Espionage didn't stop when John LeCarre put away his typewriter. Likewise facebook and twitter will be churning out bullshit wittingly or otherwise. These things are priced in.
The pissed up moron who pissed by the memorial should be named shamed and pilloried, nothing more. Locking him up would be a cowardly gesture, a distraction and an egregious false equivalence to the cause that BLM espouses.
If there's any punishments to be handed out, the tagger of Churchils plinth should be fined no more than he would be for tagging any other public property and the pisser should be fined the standard penalty for public urination. To do anything else would be to make inanimate objects sacred. And we know where that leads...
Don't care how much of a tree hugger you are, stone and steel don't have feelings.
https://twitter.com/john_mcal/status/1271916606000685056?s=20
Still buzzing over the events of yesterday.The Fash are in absolute dissaray
https://twitter.com/CuttingEdge_Lee/status/1271945530990567424?s=20
And this is the nub of it all, Tiny Tommy made a video whilst coked up to keep himself relevant then backed out once he read the lie of the land
https://twitter.com/Reverend_Makers/status/1271903126027673603?s=20
Will be interesting to see what he does next, or if anyone else will be daft enough to step up
Although I can’t condone violence, watching that Racist ****er meet his nemesis in that latest clip was quite satisfying.
Nobody is denying the may be far right…
MAY be far right?
surely It's blindingly obvious to even the most desperate apologist for them, that yesterday's statue defending patriots are just far right thugs
https://twitter.com/mi6rogue/status/1272080316837003264?s=20
"BRITIAN FIRST"
You couldn't make it up.
Memorial pisser has given himself up
https://twitter.com/CrimeLdn/status/1272086504014258176?s=19
The far right have been claiming that he's a plant/crisis actor
Brit Ian first?
Is that their leader, or the lad who gets first dibs on the pudding?