[Closed] The All Night Election Results Thread

so if ed is going, who are the frontrunners to replace him. Yvette Cooper has already been mentioned but who else is there?

Jim Murphy?

One possible scenario is that with a clear playing field, the Cons may now set to work addressing this issue with more urgency - get the pain out of the way early on in their new term of office.
IMHO one thing for sure is that we have no right to expect future generations to cover the cost of our current mess.

Oh yeah but we will.

Whilst you pull the plug on education, tackling homelessness and unemployment benefts - all the things that have a huge impact on the young, the Tories will continue to fund the treatment of old ****s in the NHS so they can live to 201, they will continue with the various pensioner benefits and they will carrying on pandering to the 50ish lot in higher tax bands who really don't want to pay more tax.

Can you imagine how please with himself Dave is going to look now? I thought he'd already reached a critical mass of self-regarding smugness. Apparently not

Given how he's ruled over us minions when he didn't even have a majority, I expect he'll now start behaving in a manner that a Roman Emperor would regard as a bit over the top

Seriously.......Tony Blair.

dazh - Member
once the tories redraw the boundaries and reduce the number of MPs they are f***** forever. This is where perpetual tory govt starts, they're not going to pass up this opportunity.

Just listened to David Steele's assessment of Nick Clegg's resignation.

I'm pretty sure the LibDems will go through some major defections to Labour and Conservative and are quite possibly finished. DS was right - they've gone back decades.

What's also interesting is that this is a swing to "certainty", the sort of thinking that drove the two 1974 elections. So the idea of a new politics of greater centre ground consensus isn't there. It's a media invention not reflected in the electoral results (though arguably more reflected in the voting patterns).

Labour face a long period in the wilderness, and I predict will work their way through at least another leader before 2020.

Cameron won't have the easy time the left are predicting, but the obvious fear is the policy lurch to the right to appease UKIP defection threats. It is rather 1992 in that the argument the Conservative party will live out publicly will be about Europe. Only this time with the complexity of internal federalism as well.

I'd imagine that redrawing the boundaries is the first thing on the agenda. Then an exit from Europe

We really are ****ed, aren't we?

Not time to be smug Binners - he has a really tough job now. Wafer thin majority and an internal coalition where you can't blame others. Twin deficits, euro chaos coming, week productivity, a NHS pledge to live up to etc.

I will be interested to see if he can outline an actual vision - he remains an enigma to me.

Be out if office for the next five years might not be a bad thing. Politically much harder than the last five years.

Tough on the Lib Dems IMO

I'll just leave this here:

20yr old MP. PMQs is going to be a lot of fun.

You know if you this abyss long enough you start to faces looking back at you...

Thinking the results through, the Lib Dem punishment vote has brought about an demonstration of undiluted Tory rule. There's some irony there.

Secondly, it won't take many by elections to undo the Tory majority. I'm not sure this will last 5 years.

We really are ****ed, aren't we?

Only if you live and work anywhere except London and earn less than £100k pa….

THM - I didn't suggest the smugness will last long. His biggest problem now will be his real opposition. the UKIP sympathising right wing of his own party, who will now be demanding their completely bonkers vision of a Britain outside the EU becomes a reality.

I will be interested to see if he can outline an actual vision - he remains an enigma to me.

He'll do what he always does... ask George. Dave is just a figurehead. I don't think he has the remotest interest in actual policy. He certainly doesn't have anything resembling a 'vision'. Osborne writes all the policy. Dave just believes he's entitled to strut around being PM

Is bile flammable?

Only one way to find out

20yr old MP. PMQs is going to be a lot of fun.

Can't understand a word she was saying.

The Tory MP's head for Downing street.

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You're clearly not anybodies man in the north then are you...

Cameron's problem will be controlling his back-benchers with such a small majority. There's some proper nutcases there who will be perfectly content to cut off their noses to spite their faces if they don't get what they want.

Nice problem to have though, compared with dealing with the late Lib Dems. And the sooner the electoral reform gets done the better, thus reducing the prospect of ever having another ruinous Labour administration.

Cue the abuse from today's losers...

You're clearly not anybodies man in the north then are you...

This is the special British meaning of "the north" which really means "a bit north". 😀

[i]I'd imagine that redrawing the boundaries is the first thing on the agenda. Then an exit from Europe

We really are ****ed, aren't we[/i]

There won't be an exit from Europe...its (the referendum) just a stick to beat our neighbours into better terms.

His biggest problem now will be his real opposition. the UKIP sympathising right wing of his own party, who will now be demanding their completely bonkers vision of a Britain outside the EU becomes a reality

How?

They've got no power and can't demand anything, because they already have the ultimate offer on the table and guaranteed. The historical Tory party rift is healed, because it cannot be settled by internal bickering, it's all down to the referendum result.

The only important trick for Cameron is avoiding a longwinded referendum campaign, negotiate with the EU and put a decent offer on the table, short as possible.

Oh well, back to work now - the carnival is over.

Wait, here's ed....

Boom, that's three

We really are ****ed, aren't we?

I suspect so. There's no way we're staying in Europe. That alone is enough, but I also fear labour are now too damaged to be a party of govt for a good long while.

He'll do what he always does... ask George. Dave is just a figurehead.

Think I've said it before, but a mate of mine who was a lobbyist a few years ago was told by a tory MP that Cameron getting elected last time was an accident, and that Osborne was the real choice to be the next tory PM. Cameron's job was simply to put a dent into Brown's majority. It's no wonder he always looks like the cat who got the cream.

Who is most likely to become Deputy-PM?
RM.

Anointing Harriet or just a stand in?

Ed's just hoofed Harman in the slats! Best deputy you could have, brutal!

The historical Tory party rift is healed, because it cannot be settled by internal bickering, it's all down to the referendum result.

I really do think you're crediting the right wing of the Tory party with a lot more rationality than they actually possess. You are aware that they're all completely hatstand, an think they can take us back to 1953?

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Christ! Even Eds resignation is cringeworthy to listen too

Oh ****, is John Redwood still alive?

I'm not convinced this means an automatic exit from Europe.

The question is the timing for Cameron to hold the referendum - I suspect he'll need to pump up the housing market first to get us distracted by thinking things are otherwise good (and it not becoming an effective general electron re-run).

Millifans? Seriously? Wow.

Seriously, one of the worst 'damn, I lost' speeches I've encountered.

Burnham - 4:1
Cooper - 5:1
Umunna - 6:1

Bloody hell it was hard work trying to stay awake so went to sleep ... just got up now. Do we have a new govt yet? UKIP? Yes? 😆

Labour should go on bashing / bullying UKIP ... Hell Yes!
I just read all the result crikey what a result ... excellent! I like!

SNP got the landslide, yes! They should do better by wiping out the remaining 3 stooges.

Now, back to the other country South of Scotland ... Bloody hell ... Labour has done worst since Neil Kinnock - woohooo! The UKIP bashing Labour has got their trick very completely outfoxed by Tories! Ya, bashing UKIP is good ... 😆

Excellent news that one of the Balls is out. It is much much better than Farage not winning. Good to hear that George Galloway will continue to become reality soap star for foreseeable future earning him big £££. Sad to see Vince Cable gone ...

Ohhh ... Ed Milliband has resigned 😯 Hell No! Nooo ... 😆

The next Labour leader should be Chuka Umunna or Yvette Cooper (Mrs Balls) but I have a feeling that Neil Kinnock's son is slowly creeping in and ready to pounce.

Make no mistake I think Labour should have Chuka Umunna or Yvette Cooper as the next the Labour Leader. Neil Kinnock's son should start getting his profile up by appearing more often on telly and he should quote his father more often by bashing Mrs T in her grave and call on the Danish people to invade the nation ... in the meaning time they should all continue to bash UKIP ... because they can. 😆

[b]Chuka! Chuka! Chuka! for the next Labour Leader. [/b] 😛

Gets a heroes welcome and looks like he's happy not to be PM.

What are the bets the Tories will now actively support complete devolution for Scotland, and thus cement their huge lead in the rest of the UK?

Milliband and Clegg don't seem to realise why they lost.

Bugger, Julian Huppert gone. That's the cycling off the national agendy

but I have a feeling that Neil Kinnock's son is slowly creeping in and ready to pounce

This. Please this. 😆

jambalaya - Member

UKIP polled more votes than Lib Dems and SNP combined. Lib Dems close to double SNP vote. SNP about same as Greens.

Yup, ridiculous isn't it. And of course fptp means parties lose votes too in unwinnable seats, it's not just a case of "should have got more seats than they got with this vote", it's also "would have got more votes"

Binners

Thing is, any arguments they gave, even Redwood, remain utterley defused by a referendum.

Even he couldn't turn round after one and say 'ah, but the public are wrong'

What I want to know is - assuming we're generally right that the Tories are about to screw everything up for the nation, assuming therefore that they become less popular than now, assuming that Lab and LD support is massively diminished......... WHO'S GOING TO WIN THE NEXT ONE?!

gofasterstripes - Member

What I want to know is - assuming we're generally right that the Tories are about to screw everything up for the nation, assuming therefore that they become less popular than now, assuming that Lab and LD support is massively diminished......... WHO'S GOING TO WIN THE NEXT ONE?!

Neil Kinnock and his son with the help from Danish money. 😯

I feel sorry for the once proud Danish people to be ruled by proxy by Dear Leader Neil Kinnock.

teamhurtmore - Member

Oh well, back to work now - the carnival is over.

We have to get past the fallout from a Greek exit first before a referendum. I think then the EU (Germany?) will be fairly keen to cut a deal with the UK to keep them in the EU.

Much as Binners make not like it I've had heard from a few die hard Labour supporters who have known and worked with John Redwood that he is a nice bloke who works really hard for what he thinks will work. You may not agree with him, but by all accounts he works hard for what he believes will benefit the country, and that's what everyone says they want from politicians.

😀

Moi, I am a EU fan - in it's proper format! Freedom of capital, good and services, people etc. Brilliant idea.

Another thought is this peak SNP? Surely a better mobilised Labour party and a few odd things not going their way and support will start to fall again?

Voting system is ridiculous though, SNP have 56 seats with 1,454,436 votes.

Libdem = 2,362,551 & 8 seats
UKIP = 3,835,158 & 1 seat
Green = 1,139,682 & 1 seat

Bloody stupid system. 😕