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Cool story news day.
Well done all involved and makes me wonder how much homework they have to catch up on.
They sent in an anaesthetist as one of the divers. Coincidence?
I'm sure I read that they were doing mild sedation and pulling the boys along. Enough to stop them panicking, not enough to turn them into a sack of potatoes. Whether that was a forum comment or news announcement, I can't remember.
Gob smacked they have got them all out. Amazing work, lets hope they get all the divers out too
An amazing story, sad a diver died, but it could have been worse. Glad it took some media coverage away from a stupid balloon.
Awesome news. It's not over till everyone is out though so a bit more to go.
It was confirmed that an anti-anxiety drug was used not sedation.
Absolutely BRILLIANT news! Well done all involved.
I think it’s almost a forgone conclusion that an element of sedation was involved; it would seem daft not to. Useful tool.
Amazing news!
If it was me down there, I'd want every bit of sedation going before making that journey!!
Brave lads & the diving team that rescued them have a level of expertise that I can't even comprehend. A real great outcome, apart from the poor Thai diver who lost his life; RIP. I hope his family find some solace knowing that what a worthwhile job he was doing.
BTW expert interview I saw was saying it's standard practice and done mainly to keep breathing nicely calm and controlled, no one is suggesting the kids didn't have the stomach for it.
if they offer sedation before shoving a tube up into a dark wet place, seems only right they'd offer it before shoving you into a tube in a dark wet place.
Oh, marvellous stuff.. just teh headline on the BBC site is enough to warm the cockles!
(And we don't need a Teresa ****ing May Tweet to tell us it's a good new story!)
Here's hoping the last few rescuers get out ok.
Given how much monitoring is required when someone is completely sedated and comatose that's not going to happen in a flooded cave. IME they are loathe to do it even in an operating theatre - my hip replacement was done under local anaesthetic FFS! OK, a rather large local but the anaesthetist was much happier I had that than a general.
I think sedation and general anaesthesia are getting confused on this thread. There are many degrees of sedation.
Yep sedation and anti anxiety drugs really you can make people not worry about what is going on around them Valium style
BBC radio news just said that all the children & their coach are OUT!!!!!!!!!!!
E P I C .
I bet the film rights are being negotiated right now.
prospective producers have already been interviewing people at the rescue site
pretty cool that FIFA have offered the kids to come to the WC final, gutting they cant make it!
pretty cool that FIFA have offered the kids to come to the WC final, gutting they cant make it!
ManU have just invited them all to Old Trafford (many of them are fans).
It is a pity they can't get to the WC final though - that really would make a perfect end for the inevitable film.
that really would make a perfect end for the inevitable film
There is nothing to stop it happening in the film
I'm likimg that they look completely in control of the media and there was no sneaky photos of the children being released before they we're all out. No leaks from hospital either
The Thai Prime Minister said they were given anti-anxiety drugs. One of the cave diving specialists (and presumably one of the thirteen involved in the retrieval activities) is a bloke called Richard Harris from Adelaide who's day job is an anaesthetist. Regardless of the level of drugs administered he's ideal for the job.
I’m likimg that they look completely in control of the media
That is one of the things that has been so impressive. They have 1000 people involved, international teams, experts, volunteers, egos.... They all need to be fed and have transport, as well as somewhere to sleep. There will be hundreds of media, with similar requirements who also need to be controlled. Then there are the families, and the press pretending to be relatives to get better access.
The logistics, planning and execution of what they have done is mind blowing
I’m liking that they look completely in control of the media and there was no sneaky photos of the children being released before they we’re all out. No leaks from hospital either
Yes, absolutely briliant job.
Not sure about watching film where the plot is completely known. Would have to be damn-well acted 🙂
The logistics, planning and execution of what they have done is mind blowing
Yep, its remarkable what can be achieved in a well run dictatorship!
It is an amazing story though. I can't imagine what they went through trapped in the dark for a week. They've showed bravery and fortitude well beyond their years to come through that intact.
Kudos to all the divers involved too. Skill and bravery in equal measure.
There is nothing to stop it happening in the film
Or making it so it was the US Marines who saved them all, as the Thai authorities just looked on in awe.
Brilliant job. I just hope that the kids aren't too messed up as a result of it.
In the film the Marines, led by by a Dwayne Johnson look-a-like, blow a new opening and haul them out on a rope hanging from a helicopter as the piranaha infested water levels rise.
I’m likimg that they look completely in control of the media
Yeah. They arrested an "international" journalist for trying to fly a drone over the area.
They arrested an “international” journalist for trying to fly a drone over the area
Hope they chucked him/her deep into the cave 🙂
Everyone is out now including the last divers and doctor. Good work.
Totally amazing achievement, staggered that it all went so smoothly.
I was a ships diver in the Royal Navy, and even just going underneath a ship in the dim murky waters of a dockyard was bad enough. The thought of doing it in a cave? Noooop.
My heart goes out to the family of diver Saman.
Don't know if it's just the grauniad, but a bit dissapointed at the lack of mention of the bloke wot died. Would be good if they could take him more into account.
He was a hero
Staggering achievement by everyone involved, they are true heros!
Excellent result (apart from the 1 death) - amazing to see what can be achieved when everyone/everything is working for a common goal.
Bloody brilliant, a massive well done to all those concerned.
Feels a bit strange celebrating when someone has needlessly died.
How on earth did they get so deep into the cave, it looks difficult enough without filing it with water?
apparently a local youth initiation ritual to get to the back of the cave & right your name on the wall, smarter to do it in the dry season tho
<p class="p1">Feels a bit strange celebrating when someone has needlessly died.</p>
His death wasn't needless. He died saving 13 other people. If it wasn't for him and his fellow rescuers 13 homes would be having a very bad time right now.
A great man in a great team effort.
smarter to do it in the dry season tho
I think (happy to be corrected) it was the dry season when they went in. Rain came early apparently
"How on earth did they get so deep into the cave,"
Possibly to avoid drowning as the water level rose?
I don't know the source (or authenticity), but a bunch of photos have appeared on Facebook.
"https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1968798236766064&id=1797301473915742"
Yep quite a few more details emerging now that it's been completed successfully - the one I noted was "
Sources in the rescue operation, including divers who took part, told the BBC that the boys were heavily sedated ahead of the rescue to prevent them panicking in the dark, narrow, underwater passageways.
They were then strapped to one of two rescue divers tasked with shepherding each boy through the underwater parts of the system, and bundled into stretchers to be carried through the dry parts."
It was 17-year-old Peerapat Sompiangjai's birthday when the group became trapped in the cave. The snacks the boys brought with them to celebrate are likely to have helped them survive their ordeal.
Assistant coach Ekapol Chantawong, 25, was said to be the weakest of the group when they were found, as he had reportedly refused to eat any of the food and gave it instead to the boys.
Well done to all for their efforts in saving the group.
Assistant coach Ekapol Chantawong, 25, was said to be the weakest of the group when they were found, as he had reportedly refused to eat any of the food and gave it instead to the boys.
As he is the leader of the group I guess he has done the right thing but not sure about other survival scenario.
Slight distraction from the topic.
I wonder what the survival strategy was used when an entire army (or cadet s... can't recall exact info now) got lost in jungle of Borneo.
Now it's over, I guess this ok. Just received via whatsapp 😆
It was 17-year-old Peerapat Sompiangjai‘s birthday
Last time he replies "just surprise me" when asked what he wants to do on the day.
A good detailed docu on the whole International effort by Australian TV programme 4Corners
Ah marked for watching later 4 Corners are decent people
There was a program on it on Discovery (I think...) last night that seemed good but I only caught the end of it
