That Prophets of Rage thread made me wonder if there have ever been any supergroups that produce stuff that's considered better than that of the bands they came from. Any suggestions?
McBusted
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Well alot of band members were in other less known bands before they 'made it' so you could have a pretty long list.
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Well alot of band members were in other less known bands before they 'made it' so you could have a pretty long list.
We're talking Supergroups though, so people who are already famous from other successful bands getting together to form a new super band...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergroup_(music)
Early GnR, Black Eyed Peas, Iron Maiden.
From that wiki list - This Mortal Coil produced some stuff better than [i]some[/i] of the members' other output (but not all).
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. Supergroup, maybe, but more of an entity in their own right than what comes to mind when you think of the word.
Pigface (not the STW member) sounds like they should've been good. But never 'eard 'em!
Moderat are awesome, but I love the members' other stuff too.
Same for The Dead Weather and Atoms for Peace.
Postal Service were ok at the time.
I don't want to hear any of the others!
Yes, just scanning that list now. It generally doesn't end well!
Early GnR, Black Eyed Peas, Iron Maiden.
Is that an answer to another post in another thread?
[url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Acid ]The Acid[/url] are mising from the list. They did some good stuff, not sure if better, but very different.
[i]We're talking Supergroups though, so people who are already famous from other successful bands getting together to form a new super band...[/i]
How about Brujeria then?
Humble Pie?
[i]How about Brujeria then?[/i]
Adrian Erlandsson, Billy Gould, Dino Cazares, Emilio Marquez, Eric Boucher, Jeff Walker, Jesse Pintado, John Lepe, Marijuano Machete, Nicholas Barker, Pat Hoed, Pinche Peach, Pititis, Raymond Herrera, Shane Embury, Tony Laureano
Famous? Where, in Norway? 😉
The Traveling Wilberrys seemed okay to me, but that might be be because I hadn't heard a huge amount of their individual stuff.
I've never really liked much of any of the others, it always sounded like the singer from this band, singing along with the guitarist from this band as the drummer from another did his bit - 'Them Crooked Vultures' especially, it's just Queens of the Stoneage punctuated by Led Zeppelin guitar solos.
Saying all that, I'm absolute certain that if I heard a supergroup, and didn't know who they were so I didn't automatically try to pick it all apart, I'd like it more.
I went to a McBusted concert and I am unashamed to admit that it was amazing. The sets were phenomenal, really in your face bright.
The music wasn't awful either, not amazing but by no means awful
Cream
Audioslave
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
Super groups, generally a load of the biggest egos getting together to make bland music.
Although them crooked vultures were ok.
We're talking Supergroups though, so people who are already famous from other successful bands getting together to form a new super band...
Or to put it another way "a new band".
No, supergroups are essentially a vanity/ego project therefore they won't by definition produce decent music. There might be the odd track by happenstance, but that's the best you can hope for
Audioslave never hit the heights of Soundgarden or Rage but still made some good music. I'm excited about the Prophets - I think the instrumentalists are playing as well and as passionately as they've ever done and the vocalists have plenty to say. Where many supergroups fall down is that the combination of musicians lacks the magic spark of the prior bands and that definitely won't be the case this time - in many other situations this would be considered the same band but with new vocalist(s), not a supergroup.
I don't think many supergroups are vanity projects - they're just something that happens when members of bands which have ended or are on hiatus fancy making some music. That's what happens when you're a musician - you like making music! And you tend to know members of other famous similar bands from touring with them, so they're inevitable.
If Cream does count as a supergroup (I don't know how well known the three were in their previous bands) then it was a bloody brilliant one.
Down's first album NOLA is arguably better than anything done by the members other bands (Pantera, COC, Crowbar)
centralscrutinizer - Member
Cream
Audioslave
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
Cream was what I came into the thread to say. CSN & Y is a god call
But I'd have to disagree very strongly that Audioslave, decent band though they were, never aproached, let alone surpassed, the work of their former bands.
If Cream does count as a supergroup...
I'm pretty sure at the time they were just a band.
Is a band the same as a group?
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If Cream does count as a supergroup
Pretty much the archetype imo. Perhaps differs from the modern version in that it was a proper, committed band rather than a downtime-from-the-day-job "side project" but otherwise..
I suppose the Buckingham Nicks incarnation of Fleetwood Mac kinda counts if "better" uses the definition "of more record sales" - personally I prefer the Peter Green stuff, but the record buying public largely disagrees with me on that one.
Buckingham & Nicks were pretty much unknowns working at Sun City when Mick Fleetwood found them.
Journey
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
Beck, Bogert & Appice
Bad Company
Gorillaz
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Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young[/i]
I'd take Neil Young's solo stuff any day.
Dire Rea
The Chris rea and Dire Straits collaboration
If Cream does count as a supergroup...
They might have meant Blind Faith.
Down's first album NOLA is arguably better than anything done by the members other bands (Pantera, COC, Crowbar)
Was going to say Down - I like the other albums too especially Down II.
Cream
Crosby still nash and young
Mike and the Mechanics 😉
Foo fighters
three tenors?
They tend to not live up to expectations
The Raconteurs
Buckingham & Nicks [s]were pretty much[/s] [i]should have remained[/i] unknowns working at Sun City when Mick Fleetwood was lucky enough and did the world a favour by not having found them.
FTFY
Depends on whether the supergroup is just a load of people flogging the same horse or if they really have got ideas to create a new thing that wasn't provided from the constituent parts.
Velvet Revolver were pretty good.
Puscifer,part Primus part Tool, Carina Round,Queens of the Stone age and A Perfect Circle,cannot be more super.
Always prefered Broken Bells to the Shins
Wouldn't call Broken Bells a supergroup tho, more a side project...
Nola is a superb album but there is no way it is better than vulgar display of power.
Rainbow pretty good if they count and Temple of the Dog were good.
If you're into your math-rock then Battles are a supergroup from Don Caballero and Helmet. Better than both of those bands by a long stretch.
I couldn't say better than the sum of thier parts, but I love the highway men.
Masters of Reality.
especially with some drummer who used to be in Cream.
How about Brujeria then?Adrian Erlandsson, Billy Gould, Dino Cazares, Emilio Marquez, Eric Boucher, Jeff Walker, Jesse Pintado, John Lepe, Marijuano Machete, Nicholas Barker, Pat Hoed, Pinche Peach, Pititis, Raymond Herrera, Shane Embury, Tony Laureano
Famous? Where, in Norway?
err no - from Norway
Nola is a superb album but there is no way it is better than vulgar display of power.Rainbow pretty good if they count and Temple of the Dog were good.
Do Temple of the Dog count as a supergroup as didn't they record it before the formation of Pearl Jam?
[i]If you're into your math-rock then Battles are a supergroup from Don Caballero and Helmet. Better than both of those bands by a long stretch[/i]
Agree with that.
People rate Rainbow? That was the soft metal my parents liked when I was a teenager. By definition I had to hate it 😆
not a group at all... but the same concept
8 of cats does countdown
much better than either of the parent programmes
How about a 'secret' supergroup. The Remain In Light line up of The Talking Heads.
Talking Heads + Half of Parliament Funkadelic + Brian Eno + Adrian Belew = 😀
Black Country Communion possibly the best recent proper supergroup I can think of. All giants in their own right. Not sure it surpassed individual efforts but had a pretty good go.
Abba?
Atoms for Peace (obviously not betterer than Radiohead but waaaaay better than RHCP)