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So the footballer who is quite a sporting personality has been named in the foreign press. What happens now if he is named? Legal minds?


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:33 pm
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the injunction still applies in the uk.

As a publisher stw can be sued if they allow the name to appear here in relation to that story.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:34 pm
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Do you think that a legal precedent would be set if someone published the name and cited that it was common knowledge and new ways of communicating meant it was impossible to stay secret.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:38 pm
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if you've got deep pockets then you could create your own website put it on there and see what happens?


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:40 pm
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I have been told who it is by a member of a papers employees family. But to say, would cause issues.

It is a nice way for the rich to protect themselves, and yes they should have that right unless there actions are hypocritical.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:44 pm
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Do you think that a legal precedent would be set if someone published the name and cited that it was common knowledge and new ways of communicating meant it was impossible to stay secret.

the injunction isnt a matter of secrecy or otherwise, its an injunction not to publish. So, in theory EVERYONE could know about it, but you still wouldnt able to publish the fact.

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: and to be clear a superinjunction is one that prohibits you from naming who has acquired an injunction not to have facts published. With a normal injunction you could say that a named individual doesnt want facts (unstated) published.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:46 pm
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I saw who the footballer's name in question was on the twitter site the other night. Didn't take much time at all to find the info either..


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:47 pm
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Any decent bands gigging at the moment?

Oh sorry, wrong thread.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:48 pm
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Can somebody tweet me who it is please?

@deadlydarcy


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:48 pm
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I only know of some welsh international bands.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:49 pm
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It's all over Twitter anyway - not rocket science to figure out what hashtag to use if you're looking for stuff about a superinjuction is it?


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:50 pm
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thanks. Always good to know when well established welsh international bands are gigging.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:51 pm
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I only know of some welsh international bands.

That have been around quite a long time 😉


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:51 pm
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[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/giggs-leaves-wife-for-hugh-bonneville-201105093787/ ]The Daily Mash[/url]


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:51 pm
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Thread deletion sweepstake.
I'll go for 3:05pm


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:51 pm
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dd, enough 'hints' on this thread already......


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:52 pm
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ex Welsh international bands surely? They aren't gigging anymore.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:52 pm
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MTG, I reckon it won't see 15:00hrs....

😀

EDIT: Damn!!! 😉


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:53 pm
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ex Welsh international bands surely? They aren't gigging anymore.

Shame, was hoping to catch a gig in the North West. Is that still possible?


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:56 pm
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Shame, was hoping to catch a gig in the North West. Is that still possible?

Hmmm, possibly playing gigs in the North West for another year or two but will be used more and more regularly just as a support act. I am sure his Scottish manager will know more about that than I could ever do though.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 1:59 pm
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I published the name on here a while ago....


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:00 pm
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Any chance that they could do a one off gig here?

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Posted : 11/05/2011 2:00 pm
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This is more fun than just typing the name.

P.S. Made it past 3pm


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:02 pm
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Aha...you guys are so clever 😕

I think I've got it now...it's Hartson innit 8)


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:03 pm
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Manic Street Preachers?
Who does he play for?


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:04 pm
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Have heard you see the person in question on a low budget Irish airline........


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:07 pm
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Posted : 11/05/2011 2:09 pm
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So it's not * or **** then? Or are their (alleged) injunctions still in place? (posted form Geneva, outside UK jurisdiction)

Edit 😕


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:10 pm
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you'r4e not the publisher iDave, Grumpy Mark is. And he'll starting getting very grumpy soon 🙂


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:13 pm
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I really don't get it - surely they must be pursuing extra publicity rather than truly trying to hide stuff but why do they want to make themselves look petty and ridiculous at the same time ?

so, can we state the "facts" of the story as long as no names are mentioned ?
I'm guessing footballer shags ... in approx order of likelihood: prostitute/stunna/other footballer's partner/other footballer/famous person/famous person's partner/animal

Ed. As muppetwrangler says, it's way more fun not knowing the names - after all the "personalities" are pretty much interchangeable anyway


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:13 pm
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Close scaredy pants 'reality TV stunna' - in fact the programme has to be named otherwise nobody would know where the hell she came from. Unless you know her older male sibling of course.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:16 pm
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I suppose you could fly Ryanair to get you to Gigs in Manchester.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:16 pm
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Had to laugh.

Just read Telegraph on-line, about 'high class escort' Helen Woods who slept with the actor who has also taken out a super injunction, therfore he cannot be named.

On the same page was ads by google, & one of the ads was for Triumph Motorbikes.........


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:22 pm
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Do Ryanair fly from Cardiff to Manchester?


 
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ust read Telegraph on-line, about 'high class escort' Helen Woods who slept with the actor who has also taken out a super injunction, therfore he cannot be named.

On the same page was ads by google, & one of the ads was for Triumph Motorbikes.........

Wonder what Jedi would have to say on this subject?


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:25 pm
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maybe the only way to find out is to name all possible individuals in all possible combinations and then see who sues the ass off you

How could they sue without outing themselves anyway - or is it contempt of court ruling and pursued by the court itself ? (what possible penalties exist? fines, jail, being spitroasted by the england squad)


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:28 pm
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The actor is definitely not Alec Guinness.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:32 pm
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Close scaredy pants 'reality TV stunna' - in fact the programme has to be named otherwise nobody would know where the hell she came from. Unless you know her older male sibling of course.

So is it one of the royals?


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:34 pm
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"these aren't the pseudopeople you're looking for" ?


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:35 pm
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I suppose you could fly Ryanair to get you to Gigs in Manchester.

Better to come on a hughe Bonneville 😯


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 2:42 pm
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Nobby Stiles?

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Posted : 11/05/2011 2:45 pm
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how is this still being allowed awesome


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 3:00 pm
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But then Hugh’s [bonneville] devotion to wife Lulu is so strong it is understood he is known to fellow thespians as the Ryan Giggs of the showbusiness world, after the famously family-orientated footballer.

theyre just having a laugh now, arent they?


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 3:07 pm
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Mark's doing interviews for Web developers today according to twitter...


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 3:07 pm
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how is this still being allowed awesome

Because nobody has said Ry... [BANG][b]Post moderated by SEAL Team 6.[/b][/BANG]


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 3:07 pm
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Ah, so Mark's tied up with something then. P'raps that's the same reason that other chap's not been on twitter.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 3:09 pm
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David Schneider - WhoTF ?

If he's done something that's worth a superinjunction I reckon he's down at the "animal" end of my scale 😯


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 3:09 pm
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Schneider's a comedy actor type. You'd recognise him if you saw him, been in loads of stuff. I think he looks a bit like a younger Max Mosely.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 3:11 pm
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ust read Telegraph on-line, about 'high class escort' Helen Woods who slept with the actor who has also taken out a super injunction, therfore he cannot be named.

On the same page was ads by google, & one of the ads was for Triumph Motorbikes.........

Wonder what Jedi would have to say on this subject?

eh? what?


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 8:17 pm
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Jedi, I think it means you like motorbikes. Or hookers. Not too sure.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 8:21 pm
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Jedi:

Nothing personal, it was a vague (as we're supposed to be vague on the subject of super injunctions) star wars / jedi knight reference hinting towards an actor that may have had connections with Jedi's.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 8:53 pm
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Genuinely curious about how these superinjunctions work - if I was to write on my facebook status that footballer x has been sleeping with 'big brother hottie' would I be sued or go to jail?

Oh & how come caught offside are allowed to mention names in their comments but we aren't on here?


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 9:23 pm
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oh 🙂
i have no idea.


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 5:54 am
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the question i would ask is how do you know you are not allowed to say anything, i suspect that no one here has been served with an injunction. So if i happen to mention that i had heard that R G* was caught sha***** some woman how would i know that it was subject to the injunction, no one would have told ME i am not allowed to say anything.


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 6:32 am
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[i]So if i happen to mention that i had heard that R G* was caught sha***** some woman how would i know that it was subject to the injunction, no one would have told ME i am not allowed to say anything.[/i]

It doesn't matter whether you know or not, you're not the publisher.


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 8:22 am
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Ronan O'Gara?

Crikey.


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 8:28 am
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[url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/organgrinder/2011/may/09/injunctions-twitter-law ]Is stw actually a publisher?[/url]


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 8:35 am
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There's a great piece in the latest Private Eye about all this nonsense.

And they point out that when Andrew Marr came clean about his injunction, it actually put him in contempt of court. What a nob. And he only gave the interview when he found out the child of his ex-mistress wasn't actually his after a DNA test. What a fine character.


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 8:50 am
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And he only gave the interview when he found out the child of his ex-mistress wasn't actually his after a DNA test. What a fine character.

The rumours flying around about who the real father is are most amusing.


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 8:54 am
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The telegraph article was amusing but I cant help that think the press are just getting upset because someone has suggested they think sometimes before publishing
I assume most of us have done things that we would prefer not to be headline news in the national press. I assume most people who have affairs and it becomes an issue don’t sit down with their kids and go into sordid details for example. Some of these stories will affect innocent parties and I assume most of the damage is done as I assume his wife knows by now etc. I am not sure that what they want to publish ..someone famous shags someone else less famous or perhaps a paid escort is not particularly the kind of freedom of speech issue I feel like defending. With rights comes responsibility and they need to exercise some IMHO.
Ah well the press bleating on about how oppressed they are means few of us will notice them destroying innocent life’s and being taken to court
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13371918 ]bristol murder contempt of court charges brought by Attorney General over the innocent landlord[/url]


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 9:04 am