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Was browsing through the Guardian website yesterday and this popped up;

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2022/sep/19/how-we-made-eurotrash-wed-look-at-all-these-strange-kinks-it-traumatised-a-generation

We're mostly all of a certain age on here so there must be some people who remember Eurotrash from Channel 4? It got me thinking about some of the utterly brilliant Friday / Saturday night telly from the 90s. Adam and Joe, Fast Show, Bottom, The Day Today, Fantasy Football, Buzzcocks, Shooting Stars etc etc etc......

What were your favourites?


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 2:49 pm
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Loved Eurotrash. The accents we're genius.

Favorite from that era, Vic Reeves big night out and The Smell of Reeves and Mortimor, but probably all the ones you mentioned.


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 2:52 pm
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Brass Eye.


 
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I'm gradually re-watching Coupling, which is a lot ruder than I remember. And I remember it being rude!

One of my favourites was Barry Welsh is Coming, starring John Sparkes. (He lives locally, but that's not the reason I liked it.) Characters included Geraint Pilock, Aneurin Anus, Kenny **** (Mayor of Fishguard). It took me until a few years ago to realise that even the title was rude! 😀


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 2:55 pm
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O.T.T. Basically the adult, late night version of Tiswas.

Of course that was 1982...


 
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O.T.T. Basically the adult, late night version of Tiswas.

Of course that was 1982…

Sally James getting her T shirt off? Or am I confusing stuff? I was only 14..


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 3:16 pm
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I used to like Get Stuffed.

Was that subversive?


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 3:17 pm
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The Word


 
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Fast Show - Nice.
Bottom - saw the live version in Liverpool. Much better than the series (Hooligans Island)
The Wonder years- just google Fred Savage
Fraggle Rock - Jim Henson perfection.


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 3:24 pm
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Allez. Salut maintenant.


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 3:25 pm
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Gilbert the Alien's residency on Get Fresh.
A painfully bland and boring Saturday morning kids TV show that was made watchable by the anarchic spirit of a snotty-nosed alien.


 
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Reportage


 
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I used to like Get Stuffed.

The Word

Was it Friday or Saturday night, can't remember but as a 15/16 year old telly viewing went The Word ->Get Stuffed -> American Gladiators -> Tour of Duty.


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 3:28 pm
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Snub TV. Lots of good, slightly obscure indie music vids.


 
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Along with the sublime Eurotrash, there was Iannucci / Morris stuff - The Day Today and Brass Eye, and Lee and Herring's Fist of Fun and This Morning with Richard Not Judy. That lot are my 90s TV benchmarks. The latter had the audacity to air on a Sunday Lunchtime, which seems like something from another planet now.


 
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I wanted to say Monkey Dust, but on checking, it was a few years later on.


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 3:39 pm
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Was it The Word where her off of L7 got her growler out, or was that The Tube?


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 3:40 pm
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Jam 😬

Edit. 3 months too late 🤦 I wasn't too far off.

The 11 o clock show deserves a mention.


 
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It was The Word. Think it was presented by Amanda De Cadanet at the time.
Anyone remember The Hitman and Her? I appeared on one episode in Southport's Palm Court.
As Rowley Birkin would say, I was very very drunk


 
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Jam 😬

That still counts.

Tuned into that one for the first time just as the sketch when the plumber comes round to fix the dead baby came on. Even by C4 Late Night standards it was a WTF moment.


 
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Was it The Word where her off of L7 got her growler out, or was that The Tube?

Yeah it was The Word. Good old Youtube -


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 3:53 pm
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Anyone remember Pets a pupet show on late after Adam and Joe show.

With a wan king dog called Hamish


 
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Anyone remember The Hitman and Her?

For a little while I went to pub quizzes with my girlfriend under the team name The IT Man And Her.


 
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Staggering Stories of Ferdinand de Bargos. 1989 but close enough.


 
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My Favourite John Sparkes character was Frank Hovis from Absolutely.


 
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Before Eurotrash was Rapido.


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 4:25 pm
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Anyone remember Pets a pupet show on late after Adam and Joe show.

Can't remember that but triggered memories of something else in a similar slot.
Late night Channel 4 show which highlighted weird stuff from US public access channels.
May have been late 80s.


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 4:31 pm
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Banzai!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EPrYz1R_M3U


 
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Takeover TV and Adam and Joe Show are hilarious now, when you think of where they've ended up. I was watching Ant Man, with the model train sequence and thinking "this has some intense Adam and Joe Show vibes"...


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 5:05 pm
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Remember nearly all of these.
Was there a kids sat morning show "big mouth?" That had a presenter who's previous work was Rita, Sue and Bob too.

Not 90's but Any & Dec sat morning show had some bit "for the dad's" I'm sure I remember Holly Wiloughby as an Alloy Alloy style french maid.


 
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Jam has to be the darkest comedy series ever made. The sketch where 2 parents sit in their living room discussing where their daughter disappeared in an offhand manner and then not being arsed to go to the police station to identify the body because ‘it’s probably her, let’s not bother going to check’ is something I’ll never forget! Plus 8 year old gangster cleaner girl and many other sketches that pushed the art of comedy so far it made Brasseye look tame.


 
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Fun fact. A school friend of mine was a presenter on Get Fresh and later was Scally the dog on ITV kids shows. I can always remember the college principal asking him exasperately 'Just what are you going to do with your life?'. 'Writing and presenting a TV show for Janet Street-Porter!' was the answer.
He is now a she and is quite a big shot director in Hollywood.


 
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May be a bit nsfw


 
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Before Eurotrash was Rapido

I was trying to find a clip of dog boy at work earlier but failed. Did they show Ren and Stumpy after it of before or as part of rapido? Long tine ago!


 
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Lady One Question! Shaky Hands Man! Superb.

What show was Dennis Pennis on? Whatever happened to him (I know, GoT etc)

[ah the sunday show. What day was that on?

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Posted : 20/09/2022 6:00 pm
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It was a good time time to be a teen. Vic and Bob are underrated in the industry if you ask me. I never watched adam and Joe but just look how far they both have gone in the industry.
L7 on the word is a great performance by the drummer I'd forgotten about them great band.


 
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Friday night aprez-pub viewing was top notch back in the day.
Rap,rap,Rapeeedo
Jackass


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 6:59 pm
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The Rough Guide with the unique Magenta Divine.

One that definitely influenced me - The Munro Show.


 
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I used to like Get Stuffed.

Excellent choice...

Was on not long before Raw Power in the middle of the night. With the very entertaining Krusher and dog ... "Drooogies, boozers, strumpets and losers". Seem to remember someone on here's dad used to be friends / drinking buddies with him.

Discovered many excellent bands of the 90s through that show.


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 7:14 pm
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How's about liquid television? Pretty sure it was early evening on BBC 2? Showed the original Aeon Flux cartoon.


 
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Wow!

The Word.

Brass Eye.

Shooting Stars.

All mentioned already. But I miss Dani, Dani Behr.


 
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Forgot just how edgy The Big Breakfast was...


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 7:49 pm
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Which show was it that had clips from Victor Lewis-Smith? And Dick Spanner? Drawn a blank with Google.


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 7:59 pm
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Which show was it that had clips from Victor Lewis-Smith? And Dick Spanner? Drawn a blank with Google.

Think it was Network 7. Victor Lewis-Smith went on to have his own show, TV Offal.


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 8:26 pm
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That sounds about right, yes! I had "Channel..." something in my head.


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 8:27 pm
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The Mary Whitehouse Experience. In particular the History Today sketches which they later span off into a series all of their own.

See that unloved comic genius?

The one with the foppish hair and dead end career? I am a aware of such an individual.

That’s you that is. That’s your LinkedIn CV page. Rob Newman: that’s your name.


 
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@hot_fiat

That was a superb show and yet I've never found even a trace of it on YouTube to show the boys (who are old enough now to appreciate some of it). I can find wall to wall "Man from Auntie" but no MWE.

There was a friend of mine at school who had a more than passing resemblance to Hugh Dennis as the milky milky man in his winter coat.


 
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Gilbert the Alien’s residency on Get Fresh.
A painfully bland and boring Saturday morning kids TV show that was made watchable by the anarchic spirit of a snotty-nosed alien.

Gilbert also had his own weekday evening show - a bizzare chain of conciousness surreal sketch show full of obscure cultural references about 50s football players and Englebert Humperdink and trying to sell 19th century paintings to Dieter Meier. It was the kind of humour you'd get on channel 4 after the pubs shut but it was on kids ITV at about 3.45 - I had to run home from 6th Form to catch it

He had short stint with a late night chat show too with guests like Cynthia Payne and Lee Bowery


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 9:40 pm
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Thomas the tank engine with its dark subtext.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/rabbit-holes/the-repressive-authoritarian-soul-of-thomas-the-tank-engine-and-friends


 
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Jam has to be the darkest comedy series ever made. The sketch where 2 parents sit in their living room discussing where their daughter disappeared in an offhand manner

Was Jam the series where they had the sketch about a bloke not wanting to jump off the top of a 13 story tower block in case he changed his mind on the way down so threw him self out of a 1st floor window 13 times instead?


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 9:51 pm
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Was it The Word where her off of L7 got her growler out

With Terry Christian back announcing "a snatch of L7 there". Genius!

Celebrity Deathmatch, claymation with gore!


 
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Anything with Julia Davis in - Jam, Big Train


 
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So many good memories. Worryingly it only seems like a few years ago but is probably knocking on for 25 years ago!


 
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Nobody mentioned Ali Gee, yet?
Some of these performers did go on to bigger and better things, didn’t they.
“So would you give Margaret Thatcher a pearl necklace?”


 
Posted : 20/09/2022 10:05 pm
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I always liked Alexia sayle.

"Who's that fat b@@@@@d?"

He's still at it and it's rather funny (IMHO) https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b083vq05

The Word has left a real impression. Google the segment, 'I'll do anything to be on TV'

Packet of three was good. It help launch both Jenny Eclair and Frank Skinner.

I remember first watching the Vic Reeves Big Night Out and being equally confused and entertained. Bonkers stuff.

Loved Game On, strangely even after they changed the actor of one of the main characters.

Red Dwarf will always be a favourite, but that's an obvious one.

Blackadder again was class.


 
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Bottom Live was amazing, Lennie Henry live very different and er Jenny Powell.


 
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Nobody mentioned Ali Gee, yet?
Some of these performers did go on to bigger and better things, didn’t they.
“So would you give Margaret Thatcher a pearl necklace?”

That was Daisy Donovan as the 'Angel of Delight' nterviewing Denis Healy. The 11 O'Clock show launched loads of careers - Ali G, Ricky Gervais, Jimmy Carr, MacKenzie Crook. Donnovan was actually the production company's receptionist before they put her on screen.


 
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Never heard of the Jam, isn't YouTube fantastic. Just watched the first scene of the first episode and it was both unsettling and funny. The title sequence was like something from a horror film. I'm definitely going to keep watching it 😬


 
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Never heard of the Jam, isn’t YouTube fantastic.

It started out as 'Blue Jam' late night (well early in the morning) on Radio One


 
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Could have sworn it was Ali Gee that did that!
Tbh, I was shitfaced for most of the 90’s


 
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Big Breakfast / TFI Friday were pretty edgy for the time they were on. I think everyone remembers the Shaun Rider incidents on TFI. So funny that Chris Evans ended up on Radio 2.

Channel 4 had the weirdest / craziest stuff on late at night. Does anyone remember TV Offal, or that Max Headroom show? There'd always be a manga, kung fu, or Godzilla film straight after that went on until 3 or 4 in the morning.

If you think Jam was weird, they did a version called "Jaaaaam" which was a remixed and distorted version, only played very late at night.


 
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I'd never heard of Jam so I googled it. It's a Chris Morris outing. Because of course it is.


 
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... christ that was dark.


 
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Vids..

Got a light steph?


 
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Jam was the work of unhinged minds.


 
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Loved the Iannucci/Morris stuff, not only TV, Radio 1 used to have some good comedy on in the week a lot back then. I remember Lee and Herring being on there, Blue Jam, John Shuttleworth.
Late 90s channel 4 had some excellent programming on on a Friday too, Vids, Bits and the magnificent The Trip, if anyone remembers that?
I also discovered the Johnathan Meades programmes on BBC that are absolutely gems.


 
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History Today is on YouTube. Not much else of the MWE is.

Yep Red Dwarf was a massive part of my growing up and outlook on life.

You lot must all have gone to bed early on a Friday night, because after The Word and Eurotrash, which were both superb, you know what came on?

BANZAI!

How I used to howl at Mr Shakey Hands Man.


 
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Late night telly when we got back from the pub mainly involved watching the James Whale show which was just set up for him to be generally rude or obnoxious to his guests and every single show one of his phone in callers would manage to call him a **** before he could cut them off with his button thingy.... Followed by the hit man and her where absolute tools in white Ralph Lauren shirts would dance around the prettiest girl to terrible 90s house music but it was again watchable for Michaela Strachan who was very cute and Pete Waterman who was the biggest tool in the club trying to be cool and funny. After about 1am things got desperate and the TV pretty much went off air but we would still persevere and watch central job finder or cefax until the morning...amazing what amused us when we were 20 and stoned.


 
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No Limits with Jenny Powell.
On no wait, that was the 80's.


 
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What a thread for memories, although I'd never heard of Jam before either. Will have a watch later tonight.
Hitman and her was a staple after a night out, which was weird as it was essentially shit.

Who also used to wake up to Trans World Sport as well?


 
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Pets


 
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@thisisnotapoon

Yep posted a video before. Its such a random program...


 
Posted : 21/09/2022 7:56 am
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Who also used to wake up to Trans World Sport as well?

They're was some good stuff on that, and I mostly hated watching sport.

That's reminded me of Kabaddi on a Sunday morning on Channel 4.


 
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fantastic thread, so many memories that i need to look up on youtube.

just brought to mind one where i cant think who the presenter was, someone who went to on be a radio DJ was it? twas a heavy metal show, something along the lines of the Friday Metal Show or somethings and one of the presenters was a skinny metal head with glasses called Crusher or something equally inapt. always used to play Slayer and celtic frost etc....
but its the blonde lass im trying to place. mary anne hobbs? 'something' nightingale? (not anne)


 
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There's three series of blue jam out there.


 
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I still have Jam on DVD. On the back it says
Extras included in this package
One crashing airliner, eight tons of geese and a 50ft plutonium bum.

Those were the days…


 
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