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[Closed] STW Musos - is it just me?

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Now I'm quite partial to a bit of jazz-funk, and a bit of Herbie Hancock. But is it just me or does this all go horribly horribly wrong after around 1:25? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 10:16 am
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Herbie Hancock NEVER goes horribly wrong. ๐Ÿ‘ฟ


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 10:19 am
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Its does have a more than a tinge of that discordant modern jazz feel to it


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 10:28 am
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Its does have a more than a tinge of that discordant modern jazz feel to it

Not really


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 10:29 am
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From Herb's perspective I imagine it was bang on, I though tit sounded a bit crap.


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 10:31 am
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The Keytar soloing has a strong tinge of utter bolloks IMO - sounds like a small child doing a pisstake of a jazz solo.


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 10:32 am
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its just because its a stupid, dated sounding instrument. Would have sounded fresh and exciting at the time I'm sure. Proper organ, or even dare I say it, a Piano would sound better?


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 10:39 am
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I was just about to post that it sounds like it cut to me playing at 1 minute in, but grum beat me to it ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 10:40 am
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I'm just happy a jazz thread has finally emerged on STW.

Most over-rated/under-rated jazz legend ever, anyone?


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 10:41 am
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Man...I'm really blowing!!!


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 10:59 am
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its just because its a stupid, dated sounding instrument.

It's not just the instrument though is it - the playing is awful IMHO. Which is weird because they must be super-talented to be playing with Herbie.

Most over-rated/under-rated jazz legend ever, anyone?

Dunno really - I've been enjoying this modern jazz album though:

http://www.elanmehler.com/scheme-for-thought


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 12:06 pm
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It all went wrong when I saw the drummer's haircut.


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 12:11 pm
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Reminds me of Toejam and Earl


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 12:14 pm
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Just nod harder the more chromatic he gets.


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 12:14 pm
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Can't stand jazz personally, but that bit where the keyboard comes in in a competely different key is fudging HILARIOUS!
Anyone who doesn't think so is a pretentious pillock. Just saying, like!


 
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that would have been alright without that awful keyboard playing and out of tune sax....


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 12:20 pm
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2:39 is a particularly good bit too ๐Ÿ˜•

It kind of reminds me of this


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 12:21 pm
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[i]2:39 is a particularly good bit too[/i]

That is the funniest thing I've heard in ages. Farking brilliant. ๐Ÿ˜†
I'm sending that to my mate.


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 12:30 pm
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Oh grum, you are entertaining me with your musical hilarity today. Thank you!
(what is clapton supposed to be doing in that clip btw?)

BTW, if you do actually like jazz**** - there's a new bloke called [url= http://www.prefixmag.com/media/thundercat/200-tb-f-austin-peralta-prod-flying-lotus/57709/ ]Austin Peralta[/url] who is supposed to be good. Its beyond my comprehension though.


 
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That Austin Peralta album is excellent, as is the Thundercat one.

Austins dad was stacey peralta - the skateboarder...


 
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Is jazz**** a subgenre like be bop?

And this Austin Peralta is a jazz****er, you say? ๐Ÿ˜•


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 12:46 pm
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Yep, its like technobollocks. But jazzier.


 
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Austin seems to have made a success of it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Peralta

two CDs released by Sony by the time he was 16


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 12:52 pm
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Sounds like an exciting jazz breakout.

* clicks fingers in 5/4 time, closes eyes and oscillates wisely *


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 12:53 pm
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Oh grum, you are entertaining me with your musical hilarity today. Thank you!
(what is clapton supposed to be doing in that clip btw?)

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I don't want to spoil it, but go to youtube and read some of the comments on the Clapton video. ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
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BTW, if you do actually like jazz****
Sums the genre up for me, and believe me I have tried to like it/appreciate it. That clip sounds the same as most of it to me ie. let's try and be clever and play lots of discordant notes out of sync with each other with a suitably smug expression and let the equally smug audience bask in their own (self-procalimed) superior taste.


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 12:57 pm
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Is this based on Herbie Hancock?


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 12:58 pm
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I have tried to like it/appreciate it

Try harder. ๐Ÿ˜ˆ


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 12:58 pm
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Woody, it seems you have insecurity issues.


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 12:59 pm
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Sounds brilliant to me,thanks for the link!


 
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Don't think it's going to change now and believe me, I've been to enough live gigs where mates have been gigging with some reasonably well known people to realise it's not for me.

Why insecure Grum? Just my opinion and we can't all like the same things.


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 1:10 pm
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Sounds brilliant to me,thanks for the link!

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Makes sense. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Not being into it is fair enough, it's just all this stuff that smacks of insecurity/mental health issues. ๐Ÿ™‚

with a suitably smug expression and let the equally smug audience bask in their own (self-procalimed) superior taste.


 
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For those who don't/won't/can't understand the beauty of jazz, I present the following:

Scat
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I'll guess Cleo Laine.

Am I right, am I right ?


 
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It sounded like Herbie went too far out for the saxophonist - it's barely-concealed panic in his eyes when he tries to bridge in from Herbie's first solo. He then lost the feel of it and couldn't pull it back. Even when Herbie tried lightening the intensity a little the guy just stayed freaked. It's not necessarily a measure of his ability though: sometimes as a player you just don't 'get it'. Don't forget how hard an act somebody like Herbie is to follow. The sax guy starts to settle at around 3 mins, although he doesn't really seem to relax until Herbie leaves the stage.


 
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See the problem with jazz's acceptance as a valid musical artform in today's world lies with the kids. They listen to the rap music. That gives them the brain damage. With the hippin' and the hoppin' and the bippin' and the boppin', so they don't know what the jazz is all about! You see, jazz is like jello pudding. No, actually its more like Kodak film. No, actually jazz is like the New Coke. It'll be around forever. That reminds me of when I played stickball in the streets of Philadelphia back in 1957. Now listen to the jazz and eat the puddin'.


 
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I'm not going to dispute the fact that some enjoy and appear to appreciate it, although the reasons for which will alwaus escape me. These guys are obviously loving it, so I'll leave it there.
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Clapton - perhaps I have a career in music too ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 1:35 pm
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Clapton - utter and complete boll***** I thought I couldn't play guitar but that's given me hope if he's held in such high esteem, perhaps I have a career in music too

Don't get too excited. As above, go and read the comments on youtube. ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
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yep just seen them,loving the fast show clip ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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I don't get most foreign languages...


 
Posted : 21/10/2011 1:41 pm
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Some more 'interesting' music, Japanese fusion - I bet DezB will love this.


 
Posted : 27/10/2011 11:43 pm
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Cor thanks! Can you make this a regular Friday post.
I know it's weird, but I really do laugh more at this stuff than anything else ever!

(Apart from maybe..)


 
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The Clapton vid. was brilliantly done. Well spotted grum


 
Posted : 28/10/2011 9:52 am
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Cor thanks! Can you make this a regular Friday post.

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OK I will try and keep coming up with the goods. This is pretty sweet.

The Clapton vid. was brilliantly done. Well spotted grum

It's great isn't it, very convincing - the guy who did it must actually have some pretty serious chops on the guitar I reckon.


 
Posted : 28/10/2011 9:58 am
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Where the hell does that rap battle come from?? Prize for the shittiest presenter ever too! I wonder if that Katie Price thing is any better?


 
Posted : 28/10/2011 12:01 pm