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Good day New Yrs Day, decent bike ride in the wet with some STRAAAAVA PB's, calorie and crap food intake much reduced.

Yesterday had left over pizza, cheese and biscuits, pork pie, biscuits and general xmas left overs, not so good...........

Back to work today, and jumping on the wagon, my work trousers were a tight squeeze after a fortnight off binging. ๐Ÿ˜ณ


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 10:33 am
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Tiger in, Morphio in, Fogliettaz - fine to join too but you need to send me your details by email asap.

And NZCol, if you still want in let me have your details asap too.


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 10:35 am
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I'll be in once I've polished off the Christmas alcohol and mince pies.

So about Easter?


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 10:46 am
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God. It's finally here. The day the laughter died. Guess I better draw up a meal plan or something.

*stares longingly at the place the hobnobs used to be*


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 10:58 am
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I live in Spain so count me out for local rides.

Not convinced the "mediterranean diet" is working for me.


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 11:35 am
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Even geniuser ๐Ÿ˜€

It's a real car park, honest!

Pro's:
Better than any post ride cafe
No chance of your car being broken into
Get to watch fat people queuing up for dog meat and chips whilst feeling virtuous
No doggers

Con's:
No doggers.


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 11:46 am
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Always found this to be a great idea.

I'm tempted to join, but after a 6 months of work stress and a bit of depression last year, and based on the replies so far, I think I'd be the chubbiest in the chub club! ๐Ÿ˜ณ

Potential to loose the most though! ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 12:07 pm
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Feel like I need to join, cos of chocolate overload through Christmas, but have no way of weighing myself, so I'll just have to use self-discipline and the mirror!


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 12:15 pm
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have no way of weighing myself

Worst. Excuse. Ever.

[url= http://www.argos.co.uk/product/8319944 ]ยฃ3.99 you lazy fat ****er :-)[/url]


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 12:22 pm
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Or just ask to try some out in a shop they have them on the shelf, like John Lewis.


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 12:32 pm
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Hmm, I only need to do it once a month, so maybe I'll be able to jump on some at someone elses house. Certainly not buying any!


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 12:38 pm
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Or just ask to try some out in a shop they have them on the shelf, like John Lewis.

Remember you should be naked for an accurate reading.


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 12:39 pm
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[i]I'm tempted to join, but after a 6 months of work stress and a bit of depression last year, and based on the replies so far, I think I'd be the chubbiest in the chub club! [/i]

Don't let that stop you. You're among friends here. Not the sort of friends who'd be able to run far for you in an emergency, admittedly, but friends none the less.


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 12:39 pm
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Don't let that stop you. You're among friends here. Not the sort of friends who'd be able to run far for you in an emergency, admittedly, but friends none the less.

And by God the group hug will keep you warm ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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I've got all the data, and there's a few seriously underheight folk joined so you've nothing to be shy of.

I also think TINAS idea is great - not sure every Monday would work for me but would like to make a few. The worry is that if we all gather in one place, will it affect the tide tables due to the extra gravity? Will Hawley Lake become a new surfing hot spot riding the Monday night boar?


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 12:44 pm
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And by God the group hug will keep you warm

I heard a guy died last time from heat exhaustion.


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 12:48 pm
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Bugger I'm a pound heavier than u was yesterday ๐Ÿ™


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 12:49 pm
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[i]I'm a pound heavier than u was yesterday [/i]

Hey, you shouldn't compare yourself to others ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 12:59 pm
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Ok, I'm in. Email on the way.

1 month - 3 kg
3 month - 9 kg
6 month - 18 kg

I'm already strava-ing and my fitness pal-ing, so one more way to stay motivated can't hurt.


 
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Me too.... mail sent.....

Height 5'10

Current Weight - 13 stone 6
1 Month - 13 stone
3 months - 12.5 stone
6 months - 12.5 stone

My issue is after I get to fighting weight I relax, just want to get there and stay there this year.

Best motivation is the thought of failure


 
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greno cool 8)

Those goals look amitious, maybe have something a bit more modest then over achieve ?

I am sure you can cut down a lot on a few obvious things (pasta, spuds, rice / preprepared foods / bad snacks / booze ) and move a bit more. Be realistic.


 
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I also think TINAS idea is great - not sure every Monday would work for me but would like to make a few. The worry is that if we all gather in one place, will it affect the tide tables due to the extra gravity? Will Hawley Lake become a new surfing hot spot riding the Monday night boar?

I'm imagining some of the berms on the blue getting together for therapy afterwards.


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 1:14 pm
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grenosteve YHM, not sure what your numbers relate to, and can i havre them in lbs

Harry too - emailed you back as well - is 12.5 12 stone 5 lbs or 12 and a half stone?

AND TO EVERYONE, FOR THE THIRD TIME NOW PLEASE CAN YOU STANDARDISE TO LBS, SAVE ME HAVING TO CONVERT EVERY NUMBER


 
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Based in Woking, Surrey. Would love to join Monday night ride, but wouldn't make it often due to work and it's not worth buying lights for the rare occasion I could make it ๐Ÿ™


 
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Apologies JV, targets clarified and must have missed your point on lbs.


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 1:32 pm
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stones and lbs is easy enough, I seem to have the intervals imprinted now

11st = 154lbs (yes, there are some on here that are aiming for 11st targets and even some that are already in that camp. Charlatans!)
12 = 168
13 = 182
14 = 196
15 = 210
16 = 224 (there's a fair few more in this echelon.....)

But kg to lbs is just a pita.


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 1:35 pm
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Sorry, this is the 21st century so I use Kg. If you must use outdated measurements then multiply by 2.2 will be close enough.

Tongue most definitely in cheek ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
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While I think it is only fair to reduce theotherjonv's work and provide in the units of his choice. I can't help but be reminded of this:

http://imgur.com/gallery/iDOzAa5

Metric all the way.


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 1:41 pm
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Personally I prefer metric but most people started supplying in st and lbs so i went with the flow.

Now everyone's decided it'll be a laugh to change their minds. On the plus side I've already lost half a pound (0.227kg if you must) just from the exertion of recalculating them all on my calculator.


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 1:48 pm
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hang on, a bit of excel fu can convert lbs to kg and vice versa. Probably stone too as I guess we don't have my STW people under 20kg so you can make an assumption that any low number is stone.


 
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Am I too late? Have emailed you Jon.

Anyway, the time has come to accept that I cannot drink and eat like a teenager anymore. My racing weight is 154lbs, last seen in 2013, but I'm aiming for a more realistic 162lbs by month 6.
Height 5'9" Age 38

Current weight (as of Jan 2) 177lbs

Month 1 target 172 lbs

Month 3 target 167 lbs

Month 6 target 162 lbs


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 1:51 pm
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kg <-> lbs is easy in excel (times or divide by 2.2 as above)

kg/lbs to stones and lbs is a massive PITA in excel (from previous Fat Club running).

So do I need to send all my current weight and target stuff in again in lbs? Or just lbs from now on?


 
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In fact, here you go as a rough mess about.

=IF(A2<30,A2*14,IF(A2<120,A2*2.2,A2))

Assumptions are weight is in A2.
If less than 30 the number is in stone (I guess we have nobody >= 30 stone)
If less than 120 the number is in kg (nobody weighs under 8.5 stone)
Otherwise it's in lbs

It converts them all to lbs. Obviously if someone puts 12 stone 5lbs then you're on your own but if you record it as =12+5/14 then it'll also work.


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 1:53 pm
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No, just lbs from now on.

Once all the new members are in and it dies down a bit I might copy the worksheet over and then recalc everything in kg as well, but all inputs will remain in lbs (or st and lbs if you want, as above i can do them in my head now)

and this is being done on google docs so not all excel functionality translates, thanks.


 
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Not convinced the "mediterranean diet" is working for me.

Spanish eating schedule = massive dinner late at night ?

Maybe around for rides March onwards in Hampshire, Winchester / Southampton or occasional schlep upto Swinley. Could "lead/guide" (I am always last uphill) in Surrey Hills if people fancy a (half) day out. Can do xc style and a few hills / bidleways rather than shuttling trails. Anything from 30-60km by May/June. Still planning to do 40km Winchester to Hamble (most of the climbing (only 250m) in first 10k then downhill to coast), train back or leave a car. Could be a nice early summer day out, seaside and beer reward ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
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That "formula" still works on google docs... obviously you've got it sorted though ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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To clarify.

Now - 118.6kg ๐Ÿ˜ณ (261 lbs)
1 month goal - 115.6kg (255 lbs)
3 month goal - 109.6kg (242 lbs)
6 month goal - 100.6kg (222 lbs)

Is that sill optimistic? I thought a couple of lbs a week seemed ok?


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 2:01 pm
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Chub Club rides

Rob likes this idea!

Am in Reading, but train Mon - Thurs evenings, so riding generally limited to Sundays.
Could take the odd evening off for a pootle.


 
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I think you're going to be hungry ๐Ÿ™‚

On my 1400-1500 calories I'm famished and that's about the same weight loss. I can up it tonight as I'm going to be riding ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
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@grenosteve - generally the slower the weight loss the more likely you are to maintain your final weight. A crash diet makes the body revert to its inbuilt "There's a famine coming up" response so you end up continually fighting that: you are saying "I need to lose weight" and your body is saying "I need to lay down some reserves to deal with this upcoming famine". Think back to when you were last your target weight, it's likely to be in the order of years if not decades so your body's got used to "the new you", you need to give it time to adjust to how you want it to be. Not saying that you should take ten years to lose the weight but think long term rather than trying to lose it all in two months or whatever.

Somewhere between 0.5Kg and 1Kg per week is probably the upper limit. There'll be weeks where you lose a couple of Kg but that's as likely to be from extra exercise or other factors.


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 2:16 pm
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On my 1400-1500 calories I'm famished

You don't have to be - there are a few tricks that you can employ

1/ Find out what foods fill you up (generally for me = protein, so maybe some lean chicken as a snack staves off the need to go for the biscuits). I do 5:2 so on the 2 days I generally have eggs / omelette for breakfast to get me through to evening meal.

2/ You can kid your tummy that it's 'full' by drinking warm / hot water. Which is rank, but with a bit of flavour (like a bit of a stock cube, or some bovril or marmite or chilli sauce) it's palatable. Or green tea, or some other metrosexual type drink. In calories terms it's <10 so starjump while waiting for the kettle and you'll actually be better off!

3/ 'No-one was ever hungry on a skydive' In other words instead of sitting there thinking about being hungry, do something that occupies you until the hunger passes.


 
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But kg to lbs is just a pita.

No it's not. Just double the kg figure then add on 10% of the new number.

So for 70kg: double 70 to get 140, then add on 14 to get 154lbs.

89.2kg here by the way, up from 87.7 at the beginning of Dec. Since we're sharing.


 
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theotherjonv - that's what I am doing... I have to work during the day but my "habit" at work is to snack when I get peckish as I can't always eat meals on time etc. This is just adaptation.


 
Posted : 03/01/2017 2:25 pm
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Just double the kg figure then add on 10% of the new number.

But it isn't is it?

That's only good as far as small kg's goes, once you get into bigger numbers the extra 0.005 becomes relevant.

So what's 89.2kg in lbs then. Properly, in your head? 178.4 + 10% = 196.24 - but then add on the other half a pound due to the inexact conversion - so 196.7 or so??? A real PITA.


 
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@theotherjonv Quite a bit of our calorie intake is habitual/ritual in nature: a biscuit with your cup of tea; a chocolate from the tin that's being handed round; etc. One technique for identifying these is to keep a food diary and against each and every item put a number 1 - 5 indicating how hungry you were at the time, where 5 is absolutely starving and 1 means you just ate it "because" (note that all alcohol should be logged as zero). No doubt there are apps that will do something similar.

Once you see what your eating habits truly are (and you have to be honest since the only person being lied to is yourself) then you can start to change them, either by cutting out the snacks/habitual eating or by replacing with healthier or lower calorie foodstuffs.

Re: converting Kg to lbs. You don't have to be 100% exact since it's not the absolute value that's important but the change and since you are applying the same error to both old and new values the percentage change will be the same. I wouldn't trust any bathroom scales to have an accuracy of better than 0.5Kg anyway so 88.57Kg might as well be 88.5Kg. 70g is sod all, drinking a cup of tea or having a leak will change your weight by a greater amount.


 
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