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I'm not sure if this thread is being therapeutic or simply winding me up by reminding me of many many things that induce an unfeasibly high bladder temperature.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 6:45 am
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I will not ever stop until the world has been rid of this terrible curse!

But the problem doesn't lie with the people using the phrase. There's nothing wrong with it grammatically and It's probably not going away, so It's easier to just make your peace with it.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 6:58 am
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Litter on public transport....Grrr!

My daily commute is around 2hrs both ways and the number of coffee cups, food wrappers and Buckfast bottles (yes, I'm talking about Weegies), that I have to wade through to get a seat is astonishing. Do they think that a cleaner comes on the bus / subway immediately after they leave to clean up their mess?


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 8:17 am
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"Are you ready"
"I just need to. . ."

That's a no then!

Likewise
"Sorry I'm a little late"
No you're late, own it.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 9:34 am
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No you’re late, own it.

My wife has a tee-shirt that has "Sorry I'm late, I didn't want to come" on it.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 9:38 am
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‘What job do you do?’

‘So……………….’
I immediately imagine them hard at work at a sewing machine.
I mean when did ‘so’ become the first word in the answer to a question FFS?


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 9:49 am
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The proximity of the M key and the delete key on my phone's keyboard. My fat right thumb was not designed for this shit. All the years I've been using it and STILL typing anything with an M in it results in a partially deleted word.
I can't believe the phone is still in one piece.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 9:55 am
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I mean when did ‘so’ become the first word in the answer to a question FFS?

It hasn't, you've just started noticing it.


 
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Leaving the house. I really dislike being late, I’d rather arrive an hour early than 5 mins late. Yes thats a fault and I should deal with it better but it boils my piss.
We have missed the start of weddings because apparently its difficult to leave the house at a particular time. I have tried to have a calm conversation about it, where I explain I am not breaking the speed limit to get there, and how it stresses me out/upsets me to miss the start of a good friend’s wedding and yet, every time. She knows it upsets me, and still does it, so I’m beginning to believe she does it on purpose to piss me off.
Luckily mainly everyone we know is married now.

"we're going to ......'s birthday party at 4 for a BBQ."

"OK, I'm going for ride in the morning"

"..... dont you dare be late...... if i have to pick you up from A&E ........"

Cut to me ready to leave the house at 3:30. Yet we didn't actually get there until there until past the kids bedtime, the BBQ had been packed up and everyone else had left.

Apparently this was both not an issue as no one turns up dead on time for a party, and also completely my fault.

Oh yes. So much this.
My other half is always showing me various annoying tik-tok dog videos and the first thing that always enters my mind is, why is the world full of bumbling codspanners who film everything in portrait?.
The vast majority of clips you see on YouTube etc are the middle third of the screen with either black portions or a ghosted repeat image on the sides.

There's no real reason why all video should be landscape though. In the early days it was a circular image. It only went landscape because that's what the National Television Standards Committee settled on in the 50's because it works better for the majority of the time and the Phase Alternating Line standard copied that. If they'd invented a 4" handheld device designed to be held in portrait first then you'd be getting angry about your TV being in landscape and wasting 2/3 of the image of the newsreader to empty studio either side.

See also, broadcasters insisting that filming is 4:3 compliant. When was the last time you watched something in 4:3?


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 9:57 am
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You are not in some twee 70s sitcom you imbecile, speak like a normal ****ing human being.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 10:03 am
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When was the last time you watched something in 4:3?

I'm reading this right now on a 4:3 monitor.

(There's always one, isn't there...)


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 10:11 am
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It hasn’t, you’ve just started noticing it.

I’m 66, believe me, it’s a fairly recent introduction. It so wee bubblingly annoying I’d have noticed years ago! 🤬


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 10:18 am
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The term 'fur babies'


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 10:24 am
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Oh and in addition to those who refer to furniture or underwear as "draws" people who reply with "me either". You either what? Either want grammar lessons or the previously mentioned nail gun therapy?

And the "liking to be on time" shite. So do I. But I also don't like leaving half an hour before I have to just so I can sit with my thumb up my arse waiting for someone/something.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 10:25 am
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My wife gets the kids to bring their toothbrushes downstairs to brush when getting ready in the morning, as opposed to getting them to do them in the bathroom like normal people. Cue teeth being distractedly 'brushed' while reading a book or fighting with each other.

And then the brushes and paste vanishing every single day.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 10:32 am
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 it’s a fairly recent introduction. It so wee bubblingly annoying I’d have noticed years ago!

Lots of folk like you were complaining about this, so NPR did a survey, and they found that it was mentioned on average about every 10 minutes in radio interviews nationally, no worse than other fillers like "erm" or "like".  You've just been primed to hear it is all.

So, It's not them, it's you. 🤣


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 10:33 am
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I'm on a roll.  Doesn't bode well for a low stress day smiling pleasantly at my fellow humans.

Chips in twee little buckets with pub food, served on a roof slate.

Anything supposedly 'improved' by being in a squeezy bottle.  Marmite, Golden Syrup etc.  I don't want non drip convenience and extraneous plastic, I want the viscosity and taste I was used to, before you ****ed it up!

The faff of needing reading glasses AND distance glasses after 5 decades without either.

Loose spokes

Tyre levers snapping

The crotch of my ill fitting baggy shorts catching on the nose of my saddle when trying to 'move' on the bike, whilst looking like an uncoordinated wildebeest in a tutu on a unicycle.

Having to take reading glasses when riding, because the contacts you need to prevent you riding into a tree, mean you can't see a map, phone, or fix a puncture without them.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 10:56 am
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So, It’s not them, it’s you. 🤣

Haha, remind me not to ask you a question then, I bet you can’t help yourself! 😜


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 11:08 am
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Having to take reading glasses when riding, because the contacts you need to prevent you riding into a tree, mean you can’t see a map, phone, or fix a puncture without them.

Have you tried riding glasses with reading lenses? They have a little lens at the bottom of the plain lens so you can glance down and read a cycle computer, map, etc.

https://bbbcycling.com/uk_en/bsg-59-impress-reader


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 11:17 am
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Anything supposedly ‘improved’ by being in a squeezy bottle.  Marmite, Golden Syrup etc.  I don’t want non drip convenience and extraneous plastic

Weirdo


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 11:27 am
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You're right about squeeze bottles.

Squeeze, squeeze SQUEEEEZZZZZZZEEEEE

BOOM

food ruined.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 11:42 am
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@nickjb very much not in the spirit of this thread, but thank you, they look genuinely useful and may well remove one small irritation from my life!


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 11:42 am
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I will not ever stop until the world has been rid of this terrible curse!

But the problem doesn’t lie with the people using the phrase. There’s nothing wrong with it grammatically and It’s probably not going away, so It’s easier to just make your peace with it.

NEVER. Besides, this thread isn't for making peace with things that annoy you. That's so annoying 😉
'You get what you're given' I always thought.
It just sounds horrible and it's a creeping Americanism and Americans say so many things wrong that I just don't know where to start. But, I'll start with 'I could care less' for example.
Some things people say may be 'correct' but just sound bad, and so we don't say them, but some things, such as the above 'could care less' are just actually wrong in the context of what they mean.

There’s no real reason why all video should be landscape though. In the early days it was a circular image. It only went landscape because that’s what the National Television Standards Committee settled on in the 50’s because it works better for the majority of the time and the Phase Alternating Line standard copied that. If they’d invented a 4″ handheld device designed to be held in portrait first then you’d be getting angry about your TV being in landscape and wasting 2/3 of the image of the newsreader to empty studio either side.

There isn't any real reason as such no, but we've spent years being sold Widescreen, with epic cinemascapes across wide televisions and screens and all of a sudden everybody is filming any subject in portrait and also watching it vertically.
If you film in portrait and watch in portrait, then it doesn't matter really I suppose, but it kind of offends my sense of composition. When I take a photo, I consider the subject and adjust the frame to what works well. There are of course no rules, and we should strive to go beyond the norm, but I'm not too sure that many folks are pushing the boundaries creatively, rather that they just don't even consider things like that. This is fine, but again, this thread isn't about that.

Hey, they even gave each orientation handy names to give folks a hint what might work better for a given subject...but no. 😂


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 11:43 am
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Weirdo

I know! Do you know what's even weirder? I can't bring myself to throw out old Lyle's Golden syrup tins* They are just such graphically pleasing mini works of art. Used as plant pots, paint tins, storing odds and ends in the garage. You don't get that with your squeezy plastic and their too runny, imposter contents!

*See also Brasso tins.

I don't think I'm a full on hoarder...yet. But it's not looking good.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 11:51 am
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It just sounds horrible and it’s a creeping Americanism and Americans say so many things wrong that I just don’t know where to start.

The "I could care less" firstly isn't an Americanism, There's a oft quoted (in these sort of discussions) line from Lord Palmerston, in the mid 19th C. secondly, read it as sarcasm; "I could care less, but I'm not going to" or "I could care less, but this time I'll make an exception" and so on. It makes more sense and is less irritating

I'm pretty sure that most shorthand speech starts off grating on those that find all shorthand speech irritating I imagine irate letters to Punch or the Times about "How's it going?" or "What's Up?" in very hard pressed green ink...

I laughed at the portrait/landscape joke


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 12:29 pm
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I get disproportionately cross when my dog walks exactly in front of me, rather than to the side, with my toe almost touching his back paws on every stride.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 12:38 pm
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The “I could care less” firstly isn’t an Americanism, There’s a oft quoted (in these sort of discussions) line from Lord Palmerston, in the mid 19th C. secondly, read it as sarcasm; “I could care less, but I’m not going to” or “I could care less, but this time I’ll make an exception” and so on. It makes more sense and is less irritating

Interesting 👍


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 12:40 pm
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You don’t get that with your squeezy plastic and their too runny, imposter content

I'm intrigued. Are the stuff in the new bottles actually less viscous?


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 12:43 pm
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I’m intrigued. Are the stuff in the new bottles actually less viscous?

They most definitely are. I think in the case of Marmite, they thin it down with some kind of oil. So not only does it not adhere to your toast in the time honoured and prescribed fashion, it tastes different too. Not sticky enough to make good Marmite roast tatties either.  With the thinner Golden Syrup in the squeezy bottles, it melts too quickly on your porridge and you don't get the sublime pleasure of eating your first mouthful of porridge with the syrupy spoon.

I'm getting angrier and angrier as I write this. This is not progress, it's an outrage! 😄


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 12:56 pm
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I wasnt going to bite, but here we are.

Invariably "road users" in the facebook comments section

People bitching about bicycles and bike lanes.
People bitching about electric cars.
You know the stuff.

Also, Litter. What kind of brain dead mouth breather deems it acceptable to just "let go" of a piece of litter, rather than pocket it or carry it till the pass a bin.
i physically couldnt do it. It makes no sense.

Also landlords.

It all seems to stem from an incredibly selfish attitude to life.

"Im alright jack, someone else will clean up after me or deal with the problems i leave behind.
Me first, and ill take what i can from whoever i can take it from."

Up against the wall with you.


 
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You’re right about squeeze bottles.

Squeeze, squeeze SQUEEEEZZZZZZZEEEEE

BOOM

food ruined.

+1 Encona extra hot pepper sauce I'm looking at YOU...


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 1:15 pm
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So not only does it not adhere to your toast in the time honoured and prescribed fashion, it tastes different too.

That's got to be a good thing surely


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 1:35 pm
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^^Heretic!! Burn him!


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 1:40 pm
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With the thinner Golden Syrup in the squeezy bottles

What type of savage are you? Golden syrup from the tin, always.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 1:50 pm
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My wife has a tee-shirt that has “Sorry I’m late, I didn’t want to come” on it.

At least she's honest about her lack of enthusiasm but lacking in the fortitude to turn down the invitation in the first place.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 1:55 pm
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What type of savage are you? Golden syrup from the tin, always.

I think sir misunderstands me and we are in fact in agreement on this most important matter. I am only aware of the shortcomings of the inferior imitation in plastic bottles because my domestic staff once failed in their procurement duties and I was obliged to try it for want of the genuine item. Never again!


 
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I’m intrigued. Are the stuff in the new bottles actually less viscous?

Marmite definitely is, it's a runnier consistency and tastes different. It's referred to as Cooking Marmite in my kitchen, it's actually a handy thing to have as an ingredient but it's a pale shadow of its glass-encased brethren.


 
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^^amen brother


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 2:14 pm
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People scraping their chairs when they get up. We’ve been staying in a succession of Paradors the last few weeks and it appears to be a national pastime. Grrrrr.


 
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My wife has a tee-shirt that has “Sorry I’m late, I didn’t want to come” on it.

At least she’s honest about her lack of enthusiasm but lacking in the fortitude to turn down the invitation in the first place.

Which conversation are we having here? Because contextually this could go either way.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 4:26 pm
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I was obliged to try it for want of the genuine item. Never again!

Oh the humanity! 🙂


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 5:50 pm
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Lawn sprinklers.

It falls out the sky, we collect it, pipe it, filter it, clean it, make it fit for human consumption at great energy cost, pipe it some more and then it gets sprayed on grass, pavements, fences and nowhere else useful.

😬


 
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For those suffering from hanging around while a late partner gets ready I have a solution that might work. One day I got fed up with hanging around, picked up my guitar and started playing a song she's not fond of, within minutes she was outside wating to go. So far it's worked every time... .

On topic, victim blaming. For even more disproportionately cross, bullying victim blamers.


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 9:29 pm
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My fat right thumb was not designed for this shit.

So why use your thumb? In all the years I’ve been using a phone to message or text or whatever, I’ve never, ever used my thumbs! I know an opposable thumb is what’s supposed to set us apart from lesser members of the animal kingdom, but corvids manage very well as tool users with twigs or bits of wood modified for a purpose, and I use my index finger to write on a screen keyboard, it’s pointier and more precise. Slower, but I don’t care; precision is everything.


 
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It must be an ageing guitarist thing, Countzero, I'm another who can't type on the phone with thumbs.


 
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I've just been struck by this one, it's disproportionate and petty to max but does annoy me.

Friends, family or randoms on facebook posting pictures of beautiful sunsets. Taken through a window, blurry and with part of a row of council houses in it. "Stunning tonight in swindon" etc

I'm not sure why I hate it so much. Partly it's just the lack of any skill in taking picture, but also the lack of awareness to have taken it and though "Yes. That blurry image showing number 52's roof and part of a lamppost captures the majesty of the moment." There's also the bit that rather than standing there admiring the stunning sunset they were hamfistedly trying to photograph it. Awful.


 
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people taking photos and videos at gigs.

I don't mind an odd snap, we live in the 'I was there, look!' generation now, where in the past it was displayed by a clip frame with all your ticket stubs in. But why do people insist on filming great parts of it, and missing the crowd and the occasion because everything is being seen on a 5" screen instead.

Do they ever come home, watch it again and think 'wow that looks brilliant' and wish they'd got more involved in it?


 
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Friends, family or randoms on facebook posting pictures of beautiful sunsets. Taken through a window, blurry and with part of a row of council houses in it. “Stunning tonight in swindon” etc

Great example of Facebook spreading false information. “Stunning tonight in swindon” clearly can't be right!


 
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Expect it's been done already, but family who are unable to clear up after themselves.

Came down this morning to find the following in the kitchen:

- Two pieces of card from a pair of socks behind the sink that need recycling.
- Two yoghurt pots behind the sink that need recycling
- Pan and colinder in the sink festering
- Assorted crockery and cutlery on the worktop above the dishwasher.

The dishwasher is empty and ready to be filled.

The recycling behind the sink is next to the back door,open the back door and the big recycling bin is out there. Takes seconds to pop the recycling out as you go along.

The pan and colinder would have taken literally 10 seconds to clean after they'd been used.

Bearing in mind the kitchen was clean and tidy before I went to bed last night.

Another favourite is the fork used for tinned dog food, being left in the sink. Would take 2 seconds to since it off.

And my family wonder why there are loads of flies around. Think I'm gonna move out and live on my own.

TBF I expect there's plenty of stuff I do that annoys them.


 
Posted : 18/06/2022 8:16 am
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Think I’m gonna move out and live on my own.

...and you'd still be doing all the chores... 🙂


 
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people taking photos and videos at gigs.

... as was popular at one time, on a full-sized iPad.


 
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And my family wonder why there are loads of flies around.

Oh yeah.

You want to close the bathroom door, habitually turn off the extractor fan because it's "noisy" and have a bathroom that doesn't stink of damp? Pick any two.


 
Posted : 18/06/2022 9:37 am
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. Still baffles me people are allowed to drive in their cloud-filled cars.

I think it should be actively encouraged if not compulsory. It’s perfect training for driving in the fog.


 
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Another favourite is the fork used for tinned dog food, being left in the sink. Would take 2 seconds to since it off.

I'm impressed that your dog's using a fork, you should cut them a bit of slack about not doing the washing up as well.


 
Posted : 18/06/2022 12:37 pm
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Saccharine-sickly baby-talk from adults, especially regarding pets.

You haven't given a fur baby its forever home, you've got a dog from the rescue centre. I love animals and our cats are basically my children, I've shed more tears over pets than people so I understand all too well the heartbreak when you lose them. But they haven't passed over the rainbow bridge or got their angel's wings, how old are you for goodness' sake?


 
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A little late to the party but...

A statement that is actually a request to do something e.g. such and such needs doing without a hint of who is actually going to do it and the importance/timescales involved only to find out later it was, of course, me.

Its all your fault. Classic inbetweeners moment - 'I didn't book the holiday but its still my ****ing fault' or something along those lines.


 
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Salad cream on chips, filthy animals.


 
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Getting sick of dogs recently. The local section of TPT is saturated with people walking dogs, many are on long trailing leads crisscrossing the path.

I can't walk to the shop without tripping over half a dozen dog leads. Their owners just wander around like NPCs.

Another thing that grinds my gears is the way dogwalkers feel absolutely entitled to the inside of a footpath. This is quite a big deal when it's quite narrow and the road is busy.

I'd happily have dogs banned.


 
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And...

Lights left on in a room no one is in
Heating on when its not that cold
Car engines running at standstill
Aircon on but windows open FFS (with car engine running)


 
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I’d happily have dogs banned.

It's not the dogs which are the problem here...


 
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Lights left on in a room no one is in

Getting told off for switching them off.

"I was coming back!" Well then, you can't switch them back on again can't you.


 
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People who travel on planes hand baggage only but have bags that are too big.


 
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When I select Cash without balance at the cash machine, then it asks me if i want to to see my balance. I deciline. Then I select the amount I want.......and then it asks me if i want to see my balance!  😠


 
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People that carry their dogs
People who dress their dogs
Leaf blowers


 
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@funkmasterp Leaf blowers in autumn are particularly pointless. Leaf vacs though aren't


 
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randoms on facebook posting pictures of beautiful sunsets.

You just described Largs People. Every sodding night.

Another thing that grinds my gears is the way dogwalkers feel absolutely entitled to the inside of a footpath. This is quite a big deal when it’s quite narrow and the road is busy.

So do you think having a potentially jittery animal on the side facing traffic is a good idea then? I'll make an exception if there is a child involved but if you're a grown able bodied adult then sorry, time to wear your big boy/girl pants.


 
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Lights left on in a room no one is in

Ooh I know... tightwad misers masquerading as tough guys and/or environmentalists 🙂

Used to do my head in living in shared houses as a youngster. People turning all the shared heating off because they'd prioritised spending their money on something else - the pub/saving for a deposit, whatever it was it trumped your right to a comfortable temperature. I also used to share a recording space with a load of other guys. I'd be in there in the depths of winter, comfortably working away and they'd all come in and start opening the windows as wide as they would go, turning off radiators, stripping off clothes and dramatically huffing and puffing about it being 'boiling in 'ere' etc etc. It was like an early form of virtue-signalling.


 
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Gravel bikes. (with or without bike-packing)

Just shows that even in this cynical age, a good marketing campaign will sucker even folks who like to think of themselves as canny investors. Biggest growth area is selling bikes that are fundamentally unsuitable for what they're being used for to millennials via Insta-stories, and aspirational advertising.

(runs away from thread)


 
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The people who slow down to a virtual standstill to pass the sheep happily dozing at the side of the road. The sheep are more than happy with normal speeds and they don't worry about a close pass.

Also those who vist an area because its beautiful, natural or what ever and then want bogs and mobile phone coverage.

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When you ask for the bill in a restaurant/cafe and they dump the receipt on your table and walk off, so you then need to get their attention again to ask them to get the card machine.


 
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When you ask for the bill in a restaurant/cafe and they dump the receipt on your table and walk off, so you then need to get their attention again to ask them to get the card machine.

I know, why? Do they expect you to say "oh, it's only £50, shall we get another dessert and coffees?"


 
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It's probably to allow diners time to argue about splitting the bill equally when someone had three bottles of Chateau Du Pap and the lobster thermidor whilst someone else had a green salad and is currently adding up their order to the nearest penny.

(More seriously, I'd guess it's just etiquette, like which side your bread roll goes on or whether you've just offended the Earl's eldest daughter by using the cheese knife for the fish. Discussing money at the table is so vulgar, don't you know.)


 
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Gravel bikes

WTF actually is a gravel bike?

When did the average cross country MTB stop being able to cope with gravel?


 
Posted : 20/06/2022 9:57 am
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When you ask for the bill in a restaurant/cafe and they dump the receipt on your table and walk off, so you then need to get their attention again to ask them to get the card machine.

Surely this is to give you time to check the bill, work out who is paying what, consider a tip etc without them being stood over you. It's always been like that and it generally works.


 
Posted : 20/06/2022 11:39 am
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Cyclists whinging about what kind of bike other cyclists enjoy riding.


 
Posted : 20/06/2022 12:10 pm
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When you ask for the bill in a restaurant/cafe and they dump the receipt on your table and walk off, so you then need to get their attention again to ask them to get the card machine.

i just leave a wad of notes on the plate and wander off. doesn't everyone?


 
Posted : 20/06/2022 12:14 pm
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Referring to people as 'of this parish' don't know why, just irks me


 
Posted : 20/06/2022 3:26 pm
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For even more disproportionately cross, bullying victim blamers.

Took me ages to work out what you have against people who bully victim blamers:-)


 
Posted : 20/06/2022 3:44 pm
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Depression


 
Posted : 20/06/2022 4:44 pm
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