[Closed] Steven Gerrard - Thug?

Don't think it'll matter to lanesra that he was found innocent, I suspect he's already made up his mind.

I really dont give a fig about football but things like this

This is a genuine high profile news story

Just as well really. Imagine the whining self pity we'd have to endure if they had to play all/part of the season without him.

Jury's done us all a favour 😉

And there was me thinking that footballers were supposed to be role models. I'm sorry, but verdict or not, role models (unless they are bad ones) do not do things like that. Under any circumstances.

Just another reason why they say that football is a game for gentlemen played by thugs I think

i dont understand the verdict how can he not be in the wrong when he threw 3 punches (that he admitted to) as him and his 6 other mates beat up 1 guy

hes not just a thug hes a coward and a liar and its quite obvious his mates took the fall for him

how the **** did he get off with that!!!!! oh hang on...Liverpool Crown Court.

Anywhere else in the world and you would be guilty you scouse ****t.

How on Earth was that self defence!!!!! Be a man and admit you're a scouse ****t, you scouse ****t.

Karma monkeys are gonna break yer legs now!

rant over

Good old justice at it's best.

i dont understand the verdict

Even though you've obviously weighed up all the available evidence?

a 'liverpool jury' is one biased toward the defendent so my copper mate tells me

is there such thing as an 'everton' jury too?

and legal folks, is there a civil case to be had on th part of the victim irrespective of criminal case's verdict?

(edit) I am really thinking of when oj got off murder but still lost his civil damages case to the family of the woman he definitely didn't murder...

There's a surprise 🙄

So now its ok to go out and get "7/10" drunk then hit someone a few times.

Feel sorry for the lad who was beaten up, where's his justice

It’s nice to see the English justice system works.

Just another reason why they say that football is a game for gentlemen played by thugs I think

The rest of the generalisation is that rugby is a thugs game played by gentlemen. Care to comment on this gentlemanly activity?

[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/my_club/bath/8159862.stm ]Justin Harrison[/url]

Very surprised by the Gerrard verdict. But then I've only seen the CCTV footage and that's never going to tell the full story. It is a bit odd how all of his mates pleaded guilty though.

Gerrard is not guilty in the same way that Ken Dodd wasn't guilty of tax evasion...

(mr MC posting).

Gerrard is a local hero - Im sure if he'd been a local pariah they wouldn't have held the trial there as his defence would have argued he couldn't get a fair trial.

All his mates (who couldnt afford such experienced counsel) pleaded guilty. He said the complainant came towards him so he hit him in self defence. A pre-emptive strike is allowed in self defence, but the force has to be reasonable. How were the second and third punches reasonable?

willard - Member
And there was me thinking that footballers were supposed to be role models

And here was me thinking they were people who are good at football.
Do you think Gerrard as child when asked why he wanted to play football said because I want to be a role model?
Why does everyone "famous" have to be a role model?
Surely he is someone who is just doing his job?

Why does everyone "famous" have to be a role model?

Probably because they receive a very large amount of wealth and power.

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"With great power comes great responsibility."

The nation can be proud that the Liverpool Police pursued a case against the heroic captain of the Liverpool football team, prosecuted by the Liverpool branch of the Crown Prosecution Service in a Liverpool court before a Liverpool judge with a Liverpool jury and a baying crowds of thousands of Liverpool supporters outside the courtroom every day.

Justice must not also be done, it must be seen to be done in the eyes of Liverpool football supporters

[i]The nation can be proud that the Liverpool Police pursued a case against the heroic captain of the Liverpool football team, prosecuted by the Liverpool branch of the Crown Prosecution Service in a Liverpool court before a Liverpool judge with a Liverpool jury and a baying crowds of thousands of Liverpool supporters outside the courtroom every day.[/i]

yeah but there is another local team , some of em could have been tranmere fans

yeah but there is another local team , some of em could have been tranmere fans

or Everton?

Only in Liverpool could this happen, ditto Ken Dodd and in Duncan Ferguson's case on the two occasions he had his house broken into he battered one of the robbers and each time around the charges of assault were dropped.

Liverpool likes to think its a law unto its self and the Steve Gerrard case gives credence to this.

Liverpool - Ireland's third city 😆

LOL at TSlapper

He went to court his peers found him innocent it is not exactly OJ now is it?
The outcome is surprising but the judges summing up was

Gerrard admitted throwing three punches but said only one connected. He said he only swung at McGee because he thought he was about to be attacked himself.

"What at first sight to the casual observer may seem to have been a clear-cut case against you of unlawful violence, has been nowhere near as clear-cut upon careful analysis of the evidence," Globe[the judge] said.

The judge suggested it was unwise of Gerrard to approach McGee to resolve the earlier "trivial disagreement."

"You did not start the violence, it was started by the violent elbowing of Marcus McGee in the face by one of your friends, John Doran," Globe said. "The victim's consequential actions of reeling backwards and then forwards and your actions in response to that movement forward has to be seen against that background.

"At all times you insisted that you only ever acted in what you believed was reasonable self defence to what you understandably, albeit you accept mistakenly, believed was an attempted attack upon you by Marcus McGee."

i havent read the whole thred and it's probably been said already but he could have raped a bus full of nuns in frount of the judge and he's have still been found inicent in liverpool.

I'm just waiting for the songs 😆

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FFS LLansera you know that is a fake and a great misrepresentation of what actually happened you really do need to let go of your hatred it is seems to be affecting you somewhat

The real link

Is it really 🙄

Feel sorry for the lad who was beaten up, where's his justice

I thought you couldn't let it go Arsenal but, and this is a big "but", given that the lad who was beaten up was a scouser too, it seems that you're entirely balanced and reasonable. I thought that it was Gerrard being a scouser that was winding your little winder up so much. It seems I was wrong, and you're not the ill-informed biased cock that everyone is making you out to be. I am in a very small minority concerning this view, but I feel you're turning the oil-tanker that is your opinion.

Nothing to do with "scousers" Darcy, as this thread has correctly (imo) pointed out there are many flaws in our justice system and Gerrard has exploited it to the max

As for the guy who was assaulted he will probably end up in witness protection

Have a read of this http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2554647/Steven-Gerrards-accuser-gets-death-threats.html

So not only does he get assaulted by seven people, the person who instigated it (Gerrard) gets off scot free - then to compound getting battered he has to live the rest of his life in fear and probably away from his friends and family

Still if he was Gerrard he could hire an underworld enforcer to sort out his "mither" http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/1023389/Steve-Gerrard-Footie-stars-father-makes-sensational-court-claim.html

If Gerrard was half the man he pretends to be, he should speak out and stop all the threats

Of course he is a thug. anyone who punches someone is - espeically when not punched first. Just he is a rich thug so can hire a good lawyer.

Llansera I feel the need to point out what you were like with TJ threatening your lawyers, defamation of character (a near impossibility in your case I would have thought) and suing for you being insulted.
However when you are the person doing this (Gerrard was found innocent whether you or I agree with this, He did not hit a small child as you well know and then laugh off) you seem to be quite pleased with yourself. Again you paint a beautiful picture of your own character.

Llansera I feel the need to point out what you were like with TJ threatening your lawyers, defamation of character (a near impossibility in your case I would have thought) and suing for you being insulted.
However when you are the person doing this (Gerrard was found innocent whether you or I agree with this, He did not hit a small child as you well know and then laugh off) you seem to be quite pleased with yourself. Again you paint a beautiful picture of your own character.

TBH, Junkyard preach to someone who cares. TJ knows I was joking

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I did not think that you were joking. I thought you were being threatening and unpleasant. Mind you I was not worried either as I had / have the ammunition.

You had no qualification for your accusations, if you did you wouldn't have profusely apologised, imo

If you're that sure go for it, or ask the mods to close the thread(again)

I apologised for one unwarranted accusation. I did not apologise for calling you racist.

Show me one racist post (within the strict definition of racism), you loveable left wing idiot

Do you really want it? It was withdrawn by the mods for being racist but I have a copy.

I really don't think it is appropriate. I suggest you invoke Hattersleys law - " When in a hole stop digging"

I will happily apologise if I am wrong - as I was in the other accusation by mixing you up with another of the toryboys

[s****s at Llansera AGAIN ]
Offers spade and encouragement
[s****s again walking off shaking head in disbelief]

EDIT:

I'm all against racism but, gypsies deserve all they get, imo

Truly are scum of the earth

will that do for staters?

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gypsies-again

Do you really want it?

Post it up TJ

A) just to see how obsessive you are

B) how unwarranted your accusation is

TJ and Lanesra, do you always have to argue about racism? It's almost like any post related to Liverpool FC gets connected to hooligans, violence and death.
Get a life, both of you.
All the best!

[i]It's almost like any post related to Liverpool FC gets connected to hooligans, violence and death.[/i]
there's a reason for that.
in fact, several reasons. I can think of 39 straight away.

Junkyard with the gypsy content, how very predictable (where's the yawn smiley) If you love them that much invite them into your garden

Most people who know me on here know that my dad was murdered at Heysel by Liverpool supporters.

Which is still irrelevant to the original thread.

As Boris said grief merchants

the gypsy content, how very predictable (where's the yawn smiley)

Predictable ? Why is it predictable ?

Do you have a long history of racism against gypsies ?

What a fine example of self-condemnation.

😕

Unfortunatley, Ernie I have a huge history 🙄 of applying the general perception of gypsies being thieving ****ers

It could be the fact that they tarmacked my Nans front garden (without permssion) and then demanded £30k from her, despite her being in a wheelchair etc...

It was only when I turned up with Patsy (my brother in law, work out the surname for yourself) that the matter was resolved and the gypsies gave my Nan 30k + another 30k for her inconvinience

Lets be honest most gypsies are thieving criminals

so she got a tarmacked garden [b]and[/b] 60k?
great stuff. Anyone know where I can find some gypsies?

the gypsies gave my Nan 30k + another 30k for her inconvinience

That is one of the most remarkable stories I have ever heard.

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And also remarkable, is how you apparently believe that you can justify your hatred for an entire race,
in just two sentences.

ere, who the **** mentioned gypsies................. 😉

That is one of the most remarkable stories I have ever heard.

.

And also remarkable, is how you apparently believe that you can justify your hatred for an entire race,
in just two sentences.

Pop down to Barnsbury Ernie - I don't "hate" anyone, just have a justifiable reason

And if you don't believe it ask Sledge how he paid out 60k (in cash) to my Nan 😉

I don't "hate" anyone

I can see that you are not going to cease to astound me, with your remarkable claims.

Keep it up lad ....... your posts make interesting reading.

As I said Ernie, pop down to Barnsbury - I've never hidden who I am on here - despite the internet hard men trying to beat me up - my email is in my profile (which links to my facebook) etc etc..)

You never know we may get on?

[i]Most people who know me on here know that my dad was murdered at Heysel by Liverpool supporters.[/i]
what was your dad's surname? out of interest. No Laird killed there by the scousers.

As I said Ernie, pop down to Barnsbury

What Barnsbury in London ? That's spitting distance from RudeBoy I believe.

and your dad died in a sad accident..............ACCIDENT

you do need help or councelling by the way........ 😀

It's miles from RudeBoy;

As I said Ernie pop down, I think we'd get on

and your dad died in a sad accident..............ACCIDENT

you do need help or councelling by the way..

Another internet warrior, as I said before, if you have a problem mail me.

Otherwise Tony (Craig) **** off, ****er

string him by his ball's 😈

any ordenery flok would be in jail by now 😯

only because im a bcfc supporter 😆 lamo

no problem mate
but you seem like a very angry young fellow.

and if me and you ever did meet, i would put you over my knee and spanke your ar5e like i would a naughty child........... 😉

You bet I am.

As for the rest, do one meathead

How can it be miles from RudeBoy ? It's walking distance surely ?

[i]" I think we'd get on " [/i]

What do you base that on ?

I'm nothing like my internet persona. For a start, I'm not posh at all - it's all just a big act. In fact, I'm as common as a pikey.

But I'll give it some thought - RudeBoy keeps mentioning meeting up for a sherbet, so if I'm in that neck of the woods perhaps. Although it's a long way for me.

[center]:mrgreen: 😈 [b][u][i]"fight! fight! fight!"[/i][/u][/b] 😈 :mrgreen:[/center]

and stuart, do you think your dad would be proud of you??
seriously??

lol at andyP's comment 😉 we had some looking for scrap tother day rageing attack spaniel showed them off 😆

I live in W1, RudeBoy is miles away

I'm nothing like my internet persona either

I guessed ages ago you weren't posh ;o)

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oh cool

Just to confirm, for the doubters amongst you, my dad is/was (as he was killed) Sergio Bastino Mazzino

For various reasons, I switched names by deed poll in the early 90's

so let him r.i.p
get some dignity mate.

Easier said than done. It's probably not an everyday occurrence that you can watch your Dad getting murdered by Liverpool supporters on Youtube etc.

Then I have to put up with DeadlyDarcy etc.. Trying to bait me

Got to say I'm in agreement with ton here - while the grievance may be justified, it was not with current supporters and it has nothing to do with the vast majority of current supporters. Being anti-any club due to the actions of a small number of supporters is illogical and pointless. Why fuel further hatred? DD et al only bait you because you get so worked up, if you laid it to rest you might suffer fewer baitings and live a less stressful life.

And while I have nothing but bad experiences with gypsies, I still treat them as individuals, rather than generalising.

I live in W1

Where do you ride ?

Out of curiosity, do you keep in touch with your obvious Italian roots/connections ? Did you go to this - not far from you :

http://italiancuisine.suite101.com/article.cfm/londons_italian_festival

I went last year - nice food.

Easier said than done. It's probably not an everyday occurrence that you can watch your Dad getting murdered by Liverpool supporters on Youtube etc.

Be more selective in your searches?

I agree with ton, after all this time and with all this unhealthy hatred, perhaps it's time to deal with it.

I think this has gone on long enough; things have been said that do few of you credit - so it's time to pull the plug.