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unfluencer was a typo but I’m keeping it
It's good.
On the cooling... you'd use radiators, and keep their surfaces away from direct sunlight.
How do you even cool a data centre in space? No atmosphere to conduct away the heat (radiation won’t do the job adequately). It maker about as much sense as his tunnel train nonsense or midget submarine cave rescue ie it’s the ravings of a ketamine-addled lunatic.
when did people completely give up on using their critical faculties to analyse ideas, instead relying solely on the “clout” of the unfluencer who proposed them?
unfluencer was a typo but I’m keeping it
The idea of such a thing in space has been utterly debunked as laughably ridiculous by actual engineers and scientists, it’s just another hyper loop to distract from the underlying fundamentals of an inflated belief system
Just noticed this from Ben Jordan, it’s a shitshow 😆
https://bsky.app/profile/bennjordan.bsky.social/post/3moj2b6r3es2d
How do you even cool a data centre in space? No atmosphere to conduct away the heat (radiation won’t do the job adequately). It maker about as much sense as his tunnel train nonsense or midget submarine cave rescue ie it’s the ravings of a ketamine-addled lunatic.
But space is cold...
Yes its nonsense, your radiators would need to be about 10x the size of your data centre.
There is some edge computing you could do with a swarm of Starlink satellites, assuming they only use a small amount of their onboard compute resources but its a very niche use case, its never going to replace traditional datacentres.
Its the kind of nonsense only someone who doesn't understand space, data centres or physics would come up with. Good think Musk had nothing to do with any of those...
How do you even cool a data centre in space?
Presumably with infra-red radiation in the same way (or similar at least) that ISS does. Pipe chilled water (using ammonia as it stays liquid in very cold temps) around the thing and emitting the heat as infra red through panels on the surface. I don't know how much you need, but that's 'just' a scaling/engineering problem, Shirley?
Scott Manley explains cooling data centres in space here:
Is It Really Impossible To Cool A Datacenter In Space?
its never going to replace traditional datacentres
Not for performance or cost reasons, for sure. But the one big thing here is... WHO REGULATES WHAT HAPPENS IN SPACE?
How would a government block a satellite signal? How would they access data held "above" the cloud?
The nutcases who drive these companies (and many of their investors) are the kind of libertarians for whom this is exciting.
I'm reminded of "Golgafrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B" from Hitchhikers Guide...
I'm reminded of the colony ship in Mickey 17, specifically Mark Ruffalo's character Kenneth Marshall), leading an expedition in his own image with people being de factor indentured labour for his dreams.
It's going to be the biggest rug-pull the world has ever seen. The race for your cash is on...
Just checked my bog standard workplace pension fund where everybody who saves is pushed into by default.
It is has a large allocation into an MSCI index that is supposedly screened on ESG (Environmental, Social and Governance) criteria.
Top 10 holdings (%)
| Nvidia | 4.7 |
| Apple | 4.2 |
| Microsoft | 2.9 |
| Amazon.com | 2.2 |
| Alphabet A | 1.9 |
| Alphabet C | 1.6 |
| Broadcom | 1.6 |
| Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co | 1.5 |
| Meta Platforms A | 1.4 |
| Tesla | 1.2 |
MSCI are going to admit SpaceX after 10 days.
Are you sure? I though MSCI had decided not to change their rules for these big tech IPOs?
Ignore, just seen their old/existing rules are basically stepped over by the size/value of this SpaceX shite.
i was under the impression that i wasn't going to get every IPO share that i wanted in on, might get 10%.. turns out i did get every share.. anyway. in for the ride
I'm not surprised at the dip right now,
I'm actually expecting to sit in a dip until they reach specific benchmarks, I'd imagine to see some slight progression on the first starship catch. and so on
I think significant upturns would be when the chip factory makes decent progress
How much more does it have to drop for Musk to lose trillionaire status?
Glad I didn’t invest the fifty quid I had spare!
I don't know how much you need, but that's 'just' a scaling/engineering problem, Shirley?
You could say that about any technological challenge.
In this case though you've got to get that refrigeration system several miles up off the ground.
I'm actually expecting to sit in a dip until they reach specific benchmarks, I'd imagine to see some slight progression on the first starship catch. and so on
Why not invest in something that actually made some money in the meantime rather than it sitting there stagnant?
I get the whole "time in the market, not timing the market" philosophy, but it's arguably over inflated and hugely risky. Not the kind of share you'd normally buy and forget about for a couple of decades.
How do you even cool a data centre in space?
I believe that the NASA solution to computers on the ISS was accepting that laptops would fry themselves every three months or so...
I believe that the NASA solution to computers on the ISS was accepting that laptops would fry themselves every three months or so...
Surely a laptop just cools itself in the ambient air in the ISS?
That and average laptops run at 10-15W, the person using it produces more heat.
It’s subatomic particles that will do for laptops, not heat.
Yes, its dropping now they predicted. Must say, i was surprised the hype bubble pushed so far beyond the IPO price though.
I believe that the NASA solution to computers on the ISS was accepting that laptops would fry themselves every three months or so...
Surely a laptop just cools itself in the ambient air in the ISS?
That and average laptops run at 10-15W, the person using it produces more heat.
Warm air doesn't move in microgravity.
It’s a manned space though, so there’s forced convection using fans and ducts (and then heat exchangers, water, and ammonia flows). If you’re keeping people alive, you can keep a laptop working. You’ve got conduction from the base of the laptop to help as well. Cosmic radiation is a bitch though.
I'm actually expecting to sit in a dip until they reach specific benchmarks, I'd imagine to see some slight progression on the first starship catch. and so on
Why not invest in something that actually made some money in the meantime rather than it sitting there stagnant?
I get the whole "time in the market, not timing the market" philosophy, but it's arguably over inflated and hugely risky. Not the kind of share you'd normally buy and forget about for a couple of decades.
Good Question.
So, i'm not a pro at this.... finance isn't my thing
I see it as an opportunity, i did some Bitcoin, messed up by not sitting on that... i've done some investing with adequate success..But SpaceX is something i follow, keenly, I missed the opportunity with Nvidia, and i genuinely believe SpaceX will succeed, and profit.
being as i'm not a pro, when to buy, wasn't actually a choice, i had to get stock when available. granted, i ended up with more than anticipated...
I had some good discussion with one of my mates over the weeks preceding this, who has done very well with his financial decisions, so that made me even more eager to buy in...
I'm actually expecting to sit in a dip until they reach specific benchmarks, I'd imagine to see some slight progression on the first starship catch. and so on
Why not invest in something that actually made some money in the meantime rather than it sitting there stagnant?
I get the whole "time in the market, not timing the market" philosophy, but it's arguably over inflated and hugely risky. Not the kind of share you'd normally buy and forget about for a couple of decades.
Good Question.
So, i'm not a pro at this.... finance isn't my thing
I see it as an opportunity, i did some Bitcoin, messed up by not sitting on that... i've done some investing with adequate success..But SpaceX is something i follow, keenly, I missed the opportunity with Nvidia, and i genuinely believe SpaceX will succeed, and profit.
being as i'm not a pro, when to buy, wasn't actually a choice, i had to get stock when available. granted, i ended up with more than anticipated...
I had some good discussion with one of my mates over the weeks preceding this, who has done very well with his financial decisions, so that made me even more eager to buy in...
Good luck. I genuinely hope it works out for you. Not least of which, because if it does, it will also be good news for me too.
How much more does it have to drop for Musk to lose trillionaire status?
he's no longer a trillionaire. After peaking at 1.45tn as of today he's now only worth a miserly 962bn
I have to say that I hate the very ground that Elon Musk walks on. But he’s very invest-able. Unfortunately.
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"I get the whole "time in the market, not timing the market" philosophy, but it's arguably over inflated and hugely risky. Not the kind of share you'd normally buy and forget about for a couple of decades. "
I would argue the 'time in the market' philosophy (of which I am a strong supporter) should not be applied to individual stocks. It is usually applied to index funds / passive investing strategies.
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- those that got allocated more than they expected in the SPX IPO - do you ever wonder why the institutional investors didnt take up all their options?
The retail investors usually get **** all on an IPO if the institutions like what is on offer...
SpaceX stock is, ultimately, a means to an end and that end is a) Musk's desire to be the richest man on the planet and b) a way for him to subsidise the bits of his empire that lose money with the bits that make money.
He might be a racist ****, but he's smart enough to know the rules around trading and that the markets will need/be obliged to invest in SpaceX, he knows he has a big enough following of fanboys that will buy in to his shit and he has rigged the IPO to make sure that no one will be able to force him out of the business.
The buying of Cursor for shares was genius... Cost him nothing (effectively) and he got something that people actually use. The founders are probably looking at their new stock and wondering where 1/3 of the money has gone. I just mentally shrugged about that... The claims they were making (Cursor that is) were bullshit, so they are probably good bedfellows for Musk.
Anyone know if there is a Ex Mag 7 ETF that you can buy from the UK?
Tried last week but couldn't find one
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"I get the whole "time in the market, not timing the market" philosophy, but it's arguably over inflated and hugely risky. Not the kind of share you'd normally buy and forget about for a couple of decades. "I would argue the 'time in the market' philosophy (of which I am a strong supporter) should not be applied to individual stocks. It is usually applied to index funds / passive investing strategies.
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- those that got allocated more than they expected in the SPX IPO - do you ever wonder why the institutional investors didnt take up all their options?The retail investors usually get **** all on an IPO if the institutions like what is on offer...
It's a mass con and the indexes that have changed their rules are complicit. They state it's so 'we' get the opportunity to invest early in these mega stocks, but anyone really interested can do that themselves. No one asked for this except the few individuals & banks that will massively benefit at everyone else's expense. Would it have been allowed if the SEC hadn't been gutted by Musk?
The rules are there for good reason and the fact that this has happened with limited media coverage and radio silence from our own FCA is poor.
Ref an ETF without the big 7 tech stocks - I've not seen one without going for something that excludes NA entirely. That may not be so bad given much of the NA growth in recent years is via those companies.
133.38e at present, is that "tanked" or just "disappointing" 😉 The markets appeal to people's gambling instinct - a rewarded risk, excitement and hope.
