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Cougar.

Or if we have to have actual politicians, Caroline Lucas.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 12:10 pm
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Or if we have to have actual politicians, Caroline Lucas.

Is that the same Caroline Lucas who wanted us to have a centrist neoliberal government composed of the likes of Justine Greening, Jo Swinson, Anna Soubry and Yvette Cooper?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/11/caroline-lucas-calls-for-emergency-female-cabinet-to-block-no-deal-brexit?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 12:20 pm
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who wanted us to have a centrist neoliberal government composed of the likes of Justine Greening, Jo Swinson, Anna Soubry and Yvette Cooper?

And forgot to mention the names of any black women.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 12:27 pm
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Steve Coogan

But he’d be contractually obliged to do all public duties – press conferences/summits with foreign dignitaries in full Alan Partridge character

That might have worked pre Brexit but today's Britain is more Paul Calf


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 12:38 pm
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Political experience from Obama, Merkel, Jacinda and Rory Stewart, maybe Kier Starmer.

External ideas from Attenborough, Chris Boardman, Brian Cox, Gary Neville, Rashford, maybe even Steve Kerr (NBA player/coach- see his recent stance on gun control for passion and getting straight to the point).

As a wider point I think we should do more to get actual experience/knowledge into government. Why do the US have an ex-general as defence secretary, and we had people like Liam Fox?

Edit- my own list certainly shows a political bias, but the point I was trying to make is to ignore some of the right vs left ideology and utilise practical experience & solutions.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 12:58 pm
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Jurgen Klopp


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 1:49 pm
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Why do the US have an ex-general as defence secretary, and we had people like Liam Fox?

Yeah the Russians do that too. Personally I'm quite relaxed about the armed forces being under the political control of civilians.

There is probably a stronger argument that the Secretary of State for Health should have had some clinical expertise, or the Secretary of State for Education some background in education, if you want to go down road.

Obviously almost everyone in the country is an expert on crime, and punishment, so no legal qualifications would ever be required for Home Secretary, just an ability to implement what was discussed down the local.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 1:49 pm
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Boris the chimp from chester zoo


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 7:24 pm
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Guy Martin.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 9:17 pm
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Guy Martin.

Yeah, he'd be a good Chief!


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 9:54 pm
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We’d need Rob Warner as press secretary / official no 10 spokesperson or similar just to liven things up


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 10:04 pm
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Zelensky...

However probably Jess Phillips who has endless energy driven by bitterness and rage.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 10:56 pm
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I quite like Jess Phillips tbh. Safer choice than anyone on the Tory frontbench.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 11:10 pm
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Prof Brian Cox and Martin Lewis running the shop would be awesome

I support this message.

Or if we have to have actual politicians, Caroline Lucas.

Yup, if picking an MP, she’d be my first choice.

Safer choice than anyone on the Tory frontbench.

So would you be, probably. And just about every other person mentioned in this thread.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 11:38 pm
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alwillis, that’s a pretty strong team.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 11:43 pm
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To answer the OP and comply with the 'no politicians' stipulation - Colin Furze.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 11:48 pm
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So would you be, probably.

Deffo this is an endorsement.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 12:03 am
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Stanley Unwin.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 7:20 am
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Gary Neville

WTF has Gary Neville done in his life to be in a position to advise a government?

And why do people keep saying Obama? He was one of the most ineffectual US presidents in histry who abandoned pretty much everything he promised amid a tsunami of pointless rhetoric.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 12:16 pm
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Stanley Unwin.

I'd pay good money to watch him filibuster. He'd probably still make more sense than half of them.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 1:05 pm
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One word, Brexit.
The public vote is dangerous in a country full of idiots. They are simply not capable of thinking anything through properly and will knee-jerk as with Brexit.

Yawn. Have you any idea just how elitist and snobbish that sounds?

Doesn't make it any less true though...


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 7:35 pm
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And why do people keep saying Obama? He was one of the most ineffectual US presidents in histry who abandoned pretty much everything he promised amid a tsunami of pointless rhetoric.

That is really one of the most ignorant things I've read on here for a while.
To give you some context, I was doing a management course a few years back and had to write a critical essay on 'leadership'.

It was suggested I do Churchill or Hitler, as commonly popular choices, but Obama had been in about a year, and I didn't know much about him, me being from the UK, and him being the first 'black' USA president... I thought it would make for a more intersting case study.

And I was correct,the guy is bloody illustrious, highly intelligent (professor/uni lecturer) and well renowned for being a really good guy.

@dazh if you even bothered to scratch the surface you'll quickly see that in his tenure, the republicans held most power in the upper houses in the USA, so he was knackered from the start, efectively paralysed.

He wanted to reform gun laws, he wanted to have a universal health care system.

You'll be blaming the lib dems for the tory coalition next, I'm sure.

Grow up, man/


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 7:55 pm
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Well if the contender is to be someone who isn’t straightjacketed by ideological commitment and has an affable and amusing personality which appeals to the wider public then the obvious name that springs to mind is Boris Johnson.

^^^
Jeremy Clarkson then 🙂


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 8:07 pm
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Nah. Piers Morgan for PM. Cringe.
But we've already got that with boris, I don't understand... Why all the moaning?


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 8:16 pm
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You’ll be blaming the lib dems for the tory coalition next, I’m sure.

So the LibDems have no responsibility for the coalition government? That's a new one to me.

And it is widely assumed that one of Hilary Clinton's handicaps in her bid to become US president was her very close association with Obama - it certainly didn't do her any favours. I know Obama is hugely popular with Guardian readers on account of being black and able to give impressive speeches, but I don't think he ever reached quite the same level of support among US voters.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 8:23 pm
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Same reply as on the Labour leader nomination thread (when the idiots chose super Tory Starmer): Jess Philips


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 8:25 pm
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I know Obama is hugely popular with Guardian readers

I'm pretty sure the voting public of the USA don't read a UK tabloid, to make a voting decision, but you fill your boots, if it makes you feel better.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 8:28 pm
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super Tory Starmer

And this is why labour are unelectable, rats fighting in a sack between center left and moderate left within the labour party.

Splits the vote. more people vote lib dem also, torys win. FFS. see you again at the next GE?


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 8:33 pm
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I’m pretty sure the voting public of the USA don’t read a UK tabloid, but you fill your boots, if it makes you feel better.

I have no idea what that is suppose to mean. Nor your apparent suggestion that the LibDems are in no way responsible for the coalition government.

Still, you sound quite angry with comments such as "That is really one of the most ignorant things I’ve read on here for a while" and "Grow up, man", which really isn't in keeping with this thread which is clearly intended to be frivolous and mostly fun, so perhaps don't take it too seriously?


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 8:37 pm
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Ahh the old 'switch and bait'.

Re-read the OP.

Your first post on this thread is, and I quote:

the obvious name that springs to mind is Boris Johnson.

Yawn.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 8:42 pm
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Not a politition. Party politics is where we fall down. The oppostion party spends its time having a go at those in power rather than doing anything useful. We shouldhave a successful businessman running the country with experienced experts running departments. Eg Soldiers for defence, teachers for education and nurses for health. Chuck in huge rewards for success and nowt for failiure.


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 7:32 am
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The public vote is dangerous in a country full of idiots.
Classic STW! Lets have a nice cuddly socialist love in with all of us happy but of course we can't have democracy as it doesn't suit my version.
Not a bloody clue.


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 7:35 am
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Professor Alice Roberts


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 7:40 am
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As a teacher, that could either a REALLY good idea, or a REALLY, REALLY bad one…

From current personal experience it's more likely to be the latter than the former. Likewise not serving senior officers from the police service or the armed forces to be considered. The lack of defined order in politics would fry their minds.


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 7:43 am
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I'd be happy with anyone that can read the OP and then answer properly rather than just read the title and jump to the end to suggest a politician when

Politicians not included, cos as far as I’m concerned they’re all hypocritical, bent, lying, greedy, self centered arsewipes.

is clearly the construct for a relatively entertaining thread before once again it disappeared into whether anyone in labour is any good, the libdems are to blame for everything, and Obama was just selfserving.

(like politicians someone's now bound to carry on because that's what they do when they're picked up on not answering the question)


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 8:48 am
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I'd vote for Katya Adler.


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 8:52 am
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I had a recurring dream last night… it’s the Floella Benjamin as PM one. Always harsh to wake up from that one to the news on the radio.

[ Yes, I’m aware I can’t nominate her under the premise of the thread because she’s a “politician”… but Brian Cox, Martin Lewis and Mary Beard can be in there making sure she keeps straight. ]


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 8:55 am
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Brian Cox, Martin Lewis and Mary Beard

Why do people keep suggeting celebrities? If there's one thing as bad or worse than political culture it's celebrity culture. Maybe it's just me but I really don't understand this urge to follow a narcissistic figurehead. If we need leaders at all their function should be that of facilitators, mediators and negogiators whose power is restricted to asking questions and ensuring accountability of others who are in a position of power.


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 9:53 am
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Er... you want people to suggest people who aren't politicians AND no one else has heard of? Sounds like fun chat. I know people attending Cox's lectures at Uni, so it's not like he's just someone off of Celebrity Love Island. Not sure Beard and Lewis are exactly just known for being known either. Those four (including Benjamin) generally well respected and trusted people would give us deep knowledge of and experience of... the Arts, Science, History and economics. It's a start...


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 9:55 am
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Kathy Burke would be a good call. You don't hear enough politicians calling other politicians ****s, and she'd soon rectify that 😀


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 9:59 am
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If we need leaders at all their function should be that of facilitators, mediators and negogiators whose power is restricted to asking questions and ensuring accountability of others who are in a position of power.

Nah, computers could do that, and I, for one, would welcome our new robot overlords. Obviously, you'd need a celebrity robot to live in No.10, just to satisfy the public, so maybe Twiki, off Buck Rogers.


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 10:09 am
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So a Dr. Theopolis type computer making things happen, being carried by someone everyone laughs at but for some reason wants hanging around... making strange inappropriate noises and generally distracting us from the reality of what the real decision maker is telling us?


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 10:11 am
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Nah, computers could do that, and I, for one, would welcome our new robot overlords. Obviously, you’d need a celebrity robot to live in No.10, just to satisfy the public, so maybe Twiki, off Buck Rogers.

Haha, if only we'd had HAL in office during the coalation gov't.


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 10:12 am
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Jurgen Klopp. Football is another country for me but every time I hear him talk I think "that's what a good leader sounds like".

Prof. Brian Cox is a great choice. It would show how poorly a degree in "Greats", AKA Classics, AKA Telling Stories, prepares someone for leading the country. I'm sure the hard work and intellectual rigour required to work out where we and the universe came from could be put to use leading the country via fact based decisions. Boris' degree seems only to allow him to talk sh**e about the ship of Theseus rather than Trigger's broom in a vain attempt to impress people. What a t055er.

Martin Lewis is also a great choice. How about a fantasy cabinet not composed of politicians? Brian Cox for PM, Klopp for foreign secretary and Lewis for home secretary?


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 10:57 am
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Why do people keep suggeting celebrities?

Brian Cox is a scientist.


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 11:08 am
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Brian Cox is a scientist.

He's primarily a celebrity these days. Funny that the only scientists people suggest are the ones that are on the telly.


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 11:25 am
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"Stop suggesting people we've all heard of".


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 11:28 am
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Not really that funny. Suggesting someone who no one has ever heard of seems a bit pointless.


 
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