[Closed] So then, what this forum was originally designed for: Coffee...

molgrips - Member

I have one of these for outdoor trips

I like the look of that one [b]Molgrips[/b] 🙂

Lol! Molgrips FTW 🙂

McQ - Member
I have the same percolator as coffeking and it does me perfectly well.

I’ve never taken it biking, but now that I know there are female bikers out there who appreciate a mid ride refreshment, I will

I would be [b]very [/b]appreciative 😉

 

Hey Divagirl, I put one of these on a trailer and drag it behind me, along with a bowser of water and a small generator on every long ride 😉

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Surf-Mat - Member
Hey Divagirl, I put one of these on a trailer and drag it behind me, along with a bowser of water and a small generator on every long ride

Fabulous. I will bring cake 😈

Damn you and your competitive nature Mat.

Zokes...

Simply Coffee on Rundle Road, near PAC. They roast on-site and have machines for sale etc. If it's in town, Perfect Cup in the Markets.

coffeesnob.com.au for local opinion inc machines in price brackets.

I'll be riding road Sat, MTB Sun or Mon - you about? Or are you heading up to the Flinders after all?

i love this one. Half a mug of hot milk, a scoop and a bit of lavazza gold ground coffee in the press, and 2 marks of hot water, ppuuuusssshhh and viola, bloody delicious!

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Kev

Hi Langy!

Sat is being spent buying things (possibly coffee machines), and picking up the bits from CRC at the post office. Sadly I'm not up to Flinders as nowhere to stay, but a quick blast Sun / Mon would be good. I may even have the new bits on my bike by then 🙂

Shall have a wander up Rundle and see what I find. We need to go to a picture framer's on Saturday that way anyway...

Will email about the ride,

Z

I have a Gaggia Classic and a burr grinder and I love the lazy weekend ritual of making good coffee and the smell of freshly-ground beans - loved it since I was a kid and we went into 'Ye Oldest Chemist Shoppe in England' in Knaresborough to buy freshly-ground coffee for my dad.

But I also have a stovetop and it does make a nice coffee too.

I don't have a Nespresso as I enjoy making coffees, not having them made for me.

I would be very appreciative

Consider the French Espresso coffee packed as well!

 

Like I say, stovetops are not easy to use. Well they are, if you want bad coffee. To get it right is a bit of an art.

Eh? I find them perfectly easy to use. How complicated can it be?

Too much heat, water gets too hot and spoils the coffee
Slightly too much heat, water comes through too fast and coffee loses taste
Not enough heat, takes too long

If I am ever at your house, remind me to have tea 😉

Aeropress for work and a Gaggia Classic for home. Got the Classic on E Bay after looking for the lovely words 'used it a few times, been on the shelf since' in the advert. After a back-flush and de-scale it is as good as new. I can't recommend it highly enough and well worth the £120 I paid for it. Anything from Krups is rubbish - all made in the far East now - used them, sent them back.

McQ - Member

Consider the French Espresso coffee packed as well!

wahay!!

I pump hard on my handpresso at home and when camping and when standing around in the outdoors waiting for divagirl - hoping for face moisturiser in return for an espresso

did i really write that? 😯

omg hahahahahaha

Ive got a Gaggia Colour and althoiugh it makes great coffee I regret not getting a Nespresso machine, so much easier!

Also I dont use the spout to froth, I've got a seperate milk frother that does a better job and is far less hassle and mess.

For all the tightwads/poor people tk max sell the stove top ones cheap, in one the other week and they had a selection ranging from tiny two cup ones through to big 12cup ones for between £5-15

for between £5-15

but you could buy a car for that!

If I am ever at your house, remind me to have tea 😉

You can have a kick in the nuts if you like 😉

iDave, see that

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That's you that is 😆

Like I say, stovetops are not easy to use. Well they are, if you want bad coffee

I've never had a bad coffee from one. How do you manage to make a bad one?! Must take some pretty epic failing to get that wrong!

If you put it on too hot, the coffee's bitter. Don't you mind bitter coffee?

CaptainMainwaring - Member
titusrider - Member
this might be sacrilige but the nespressos are actually very good and far far less hassle and mess than a traditional
Sorry, but IMO it is sacrilige. They are very convenient but the pods are hugely more expensive than loose coffee, you are very restricted on coffees and suppliers and there is all the plastic waste which is an environmental no-no

Do you mean Aluminium? The Nespresso machines use aluminium capsules and have a very large selection of coffees, the Dolce Gusto (Nestlé) machines use plastic capsules and have more restricted sorts of coffees.

Do you mean Aluminium?

Ah, have you ever wondered about the fantastic mount of energy required to make aluminium? Plastic is probably better.

(Best not to think about this when considering a new bike though, which of course is entirely sustainable, even if you drive 100 miles to ride it in a circle then drive home again...)

zokes - Member
Do you mean Aluminium?
Ah, have you ever wondered about the fantastic mount of energy required to make aluminium? Plastic is probably better.

(Best not to think about this when considering a new bike though, which of course is entirely sustainable, even if you drive 100 miles to ride it in a circle then drive home again...)

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uuhmm yes thanks Zokes..i work in this field but thanks for the heads up!

I was actually picking up on his mixup of the two systems...pernickerty maybe but as i said i work in this field.

Yes the plastic is possibly better, but Aluminium is a very recyclable material.

TBH if you can't use a mocha pot molegrips you shouldn't be allowed near any machinery. Stove tops + beans + grinder. Simple. Works everytime ( unless you're molegrips and are a bit useless)

TBH if you can't use a mocha pot molegrips you shouldn't be allowed near any machinery.

Er I'm the one telling you HOW to do it, so I clearly CAN use one!

I suspect you've either been lucky or don't know the difference between burned coffee and correctly brewed coffee 🙂

No, I just know how to make coffee. y'know: ground coffee, water, heat. simples...As performed by millions of people everyday...

Apart from you, you special special man... 😉

You can "scald" coffee but I think you've got to be a bit sensible. Methinks Mols method means a coffee takes about an hour to make!

I don't see how a stovetop can make a bad coffee by having too hot water.

The water is at the bottom, it boils at 99.97deg (or thereabouts dependant on contaminants and atmospheric pressure) and then rises up the pipe, through the coffee and then into the upper compartment. Obviously by this point the temperature of the water has dropped just below the boil point and doesn't scald the coffee.

It is the only way the stovetop works and water only boils at one temperature surely?????

Question for all - does a stovetop work okay on an electric hob (the glass type ones that "glow")?!

I assume they will if they are designed to be used with them. I doubt a standard one would (just like some standard pans don't work with them).

mastiles_fanylion - Member
I don't see how a stovetop can make a bad coffee by having too hot water.

Believe it or not but coffee is actually quite a tricky subject, and is very sensitive to temperature. Studies have shown that temperatures above 92°C gives the coffee a burnt taste..therefore your just off 99°C is too hot..

If you put it on too hot, the coffee's bitter. Don't you mind bitter coffee?

You'd struggle to get the coffee from a stove top to be too hot - the method by which it works is evapouration of the water (which happens at a fixed temp of 100 assuming relatively low pressure) and it is then cooled as it passes through the filter/support arrangement and through the coffee, meaning that unless you're vastly over-heating the base with some sort of mental heating system, it'll be a very consistent temperature. I'll measure it for you if you like, with high and low stove temps, and we can identify what the difference is.

I've never had bitter coffee from my stove-top, regardless of whether I've had it on full chat or just bubbling away slowly. Maybe I'm just lucky?

Surf-mat - the metal stove-tops won't work with induction hobs as they are normally alloys of alu, rather than ferritic materials. If a magnet sticks to your pot, it'll work. That said, the glowy type of hobs are usually halogen hobs - these will work with any.

Believe it or not but coffee is actually quite a tricky subject, and is very sensitive to temperature. Studies have shown that temperatures above 92°C gives the coffee a burnt taste..therefore your just off 99°C is too hot..

I don't see how a stovetop can make a bad coffee by having too hot water.

Er, it's well known that coffee needs water at 93 ish degrees to avoid burning the coffee. If you just whack the pot on full heat you can get boiling water and steam flying out of the hole. As happened when I did this. Bear in mind that the coffee is not in the upper compartment, it's down right near the boiling water.

If you don't boil the water you get much much better coffee (again from experience) and yes it does still work because the air above the coffee expands enough.

Coffeeking understands what I am saying (and already said 😉 )

Perhaps if you put loads of salt in your water to increase the boiling point you could scald the coffee but then it wouldn't taste very nice (assuming any salt escapes in the evaporation process)

🙂

If you just whack the pot on full heat you can get boiling water and steam flying out of the hole. As happened when I did this.

Perhaps you have hotter gas around your way 😉

CK - cheers. It's just a halogen hob.

If you don't boil the water you get much much better coffee (again from experience) and yes it does still work because the air above the coffee expands enough.

You can't not boil the water, without the water boiling it would not rise through the coffee.

Or maybe you like scalded coffee. I don't 🙂

You can't not boil the water, without the water boiling it would not rise through the coffee.

You can. I have sat there and watched non boiling water rise through coffee.

you have a see-through stove top?

From the first google link:

There is [b]an art[/b] to making coffee in a Moka Pot that includes the amount of water, the amount and grind of the coffee, the compactness of the coffee grounds in the filter and the heat of the water used to brew it.

If using a stovetop moka pot, place it on the stove on medium to medium-high heat. [b]When hot, the air and water trapped inside the bottom tank expand due to the heat being applied the device. As this happens, it pushes the hot water up a tube[/b], through the coffee grinds, and out of the spout into the top chamber of the pot.

Seems like I'm not alone in my opinion 🙂