[Closed] So I've just spent £900 on our 1st dishwasher. Am I mad?*

Would of cheaper to get a mail order bride...

or have more cash than sense

this

Why. ❓

You could have bought a car for that!

Washing up liquid = £1

That leaves £899 for bike related fun.

I know it's a dishwasher but i'd want it to LOOK better than that for a G, or does it have something I can't see?

Very. Bosh is probably if not one of the best and very reliable

banks

I won't mention that to Missus A 😆

allthepies

for sure a cheaper one would probably do just a good a job and potentially not go t!ts up but hey I like shiny toys.

Cinnamon girl

Why not? Last year I reckon I spent about £6K on bike stuff and in the scheme of things, that's not very financially astute if you consider cost versus actual usage.

Ironic that we live in a small house and drive a 8 year old car. You'd normally put this sort of behaviour down to a Audi driver in middle England 😉 😈

Northwind

We already have a car

Very. [s]Bosh[/s] Miele is probably if not one of the best and very reliable

I was very curious about ISE as well but not 900 quid curious. Usual rule is buy a good make with as little functions as possible as in the end you only use one setting

Hope you have a better experience than I did with a similarly-priced Fisher & Paykel "dish drawer" unit from John Lewis - didn't last a week. Beko replacement was under £200 & is now in fourth trouble-free year.
Assume that they're like the ISE washing machines - unsophisticated but designed for easy repair & long length of service.

That website seems to have worked for you.

drlex

I saw some F&P a few years ago and thought they looked very nice. I've since learnt they're err, not that reliable.

Oh and we've been a Miele household since 97. - A change is as good as a rest and all that.

All joking apart I do like the sound of ISE's philosophy but hope never have to check their after sales support.

[i]I was very curious about ISE as well but not 900 quid curious. Usual rule is buy a good make with as little functions as possible as in the end you only use one setting [/i]

Yep, and Bosch seems to work. On our 2nd, 1st one lasted five years with 2nd one now in its seventh year. Total outlay £500.

To be fair to F&P's pricing, it was effectively two small dishwashers in one appliance space. Glad to have had the hassle-free JLP warranty- "please come & pick it up and refund me." JLP: "Yes; we'll be there on Friday".

Had toyed with getting an ISE washing machine after the not-cheap (£600) Bosch went TU after three years. However, with daily washes backing up, I bought the best value machine in stock at the local Comet, which was a £200 Zanussi. Now in fifth year with only a failed door lock (£15 pattern part & 2 minutes to swap), so I've switched mind set to a "buy cheap & cross fingers".

If I had the space I'd have 2 cheap ones (or 2 expensive ones I suppose) and just alternate clean storage and dirty pots

We now have a Bosch - hasn't broken down but still doesn't do the drying very well, jsut like the previous cheapo

Very. Bosh [s]Miele[/s] is probably if not one of the best and very reliable

Had our Bosh for about 3 years now it replaced the quick purchase of a hotpoint, we wanted to see if we'd use one, that last about 4 years but had problems every other week. The Bosh never falters, rarely gets blocked and if it does it's because the wife has chucked in dishes without clearing food off first. Cleans everything brilliantly pans, oven rays, plates and glasses. Cost about £400 I thought that was expensive.

yes

Our Miele is sixteen or seventeen years old now, we were debating it the other night. Probably jinxed it now.

Only thing I can contribute is Richard Head. 😀

Same as i paid for all my appliances - all bosch and all a+++ rated.

Hope they put your cash towards proof reading their website.

O h and a 900 quid dishwasher had better be so silent i can sit in the kitchen and have a conversation when its on.

£900 for a Bosh?

Integrated Bosch here (replaced 7 year old whirlpool).
Very quiet and does the wash in 1:20hrs.
Happy.
£900 you say? .... Hmmmmm.

Well done, whatever floats your boat innit. Hope you have many hours of not washing up!
I just gave our dishwasher away cos we got a new kitchen & had used the D/W about 4 times in 3 years.
(I actually swapped it for a case of Stella)

you've obviously spent the money already, so you can afford / justify it. many people can't or won't. Many people can't afford £6k in biking gear either. Horses for courses.

I almost bought one of their washing machines but then ours didn't die (despite the apparent death throes). I like their ethos and the fact they're properly built to last and thus should be good value in the long run.

£900 for a dishwasher?
Fool
Money
Easily Parted

Another Bosch 6 or 7 years old and only cost about £300.

Beko replacement was under £200 & is now in fourth trouble-free year.

And should it develop a fault that will burn your house down you can be sure that Beko knew about it all along but decided not to mention it to anyone.

We had a hotpoint dishwasher and when it died no idea of age as was in the house when we bought it (guessing 8 years maybe). For a replacement, we thought it a wise investment, as would last for years and could take it with us, we bought a miele. Doesn't wash the dishes anywhere near as good as the hotpoint did. Not very impressed to be honest given the cost! Certainly wouldn't purchase again!

I'm just astounded that there are companies out there with so little pride in their products that they are willing to put live Web content as badly written as that ise garbage.

And doubly astonished that there are other people willing to pay them over the odds for their products in the desperate hope that their engineers are somehow better than their wordsmiths.

Hum

Yeah, it's a funny one with white goods. I always used to rate Miele having had a few of their products for years and ex ended up with them.

I bought new Miele fridge/freezer, washing machine and vacuum cleaner. Both fridge/freezer and washing machine needed repairs after two years, which is pretty poor considering it's only me that uses them.

Miele quality has gone down over the last 12 years or so, imo.

Holy crap that's a lot of money! is time so precious you have to gain back those valuable minutes even from doing a spot of washing up? I find a sink, a few plates etc, a bit of warm water and some suds quite theraputic myself, it takes a few mins. Even if I won the lottery I can't see myself getting a ****ing dishwasher, unless I bought a restaraunt/hotel or something! I can think of 100 better ways to blow 900 quid!!

Oh and we've been a Miele household since 97

Oh sounds awfully spiffing and....at the same time quaint.

That ISE seems bit noisy compared to a Bosch (and I've yet to fail to get 10 years out of a Bosch - with exception of the one I had to leave in he house we just sold)

£900 is probably 40-50 years worth of washing up liquid, and doing the dishes takes what, 15 minutes?! I'll keep spending 70p every fortnight on washing up liquid and spend the rest on bikes/booze!

Yeah, you could get some nice forks for that!

Or you could buy a special drivetrain components washing appliance that goes under the work top in the kitchen...

So I've just spent £900 on our 1st dishwasher. Am I mad?*

No not at all - we are most grateful to hear of your recent acquisition , the great and knowledgeable of stw bestow upon you their combined admiration and felicitation for such a purchase and bequeath upon you honour and acceptance into the stw fold, you brought "ISE" to the masses with a sly proclamation of the exorbitant costs involved and accompanying manufactural ethical mission statement.

Congratulations.... You have achieved acceptance to level 1 stw @nk

 

Hilarious. £900 on a dishwasher.

lol somafunk. Spot on. ;D

just bought an estate car for that money,£1 for a plastic bowl for sink £1 for aldi anti bac washing liquid,eeeh gods

somafunk

No not at all - we are most grateful to hear of your recent acquisition , the great and knowledgeable of stw bestow upon you their combined admiration and felicitation for such a purchase and bequeath upon you honour and acceptance into the stw fold, you brought "ISE" to the masses with a sly proclamation of the exorbitant costs involved and accompanying manufactural ethical mission statement.

Congratulations.... You have achieved acceptance to level 1 stw @nk

Lol 😆 (we [b]definitely[/b] need a thumbs up smiley BTW)

Yes that's a sh!t load of money, but hey, it's mine to waste so hey ho.

But I'm glad I've created a topic of some interest and amusement to others :-), though two pages of replies on a Friday night is very very sad is it not :wink:?

Currently in the market for a washing machine and bumbled across this website

http://www.washerhelp.co.uk/buying-advice-1.html

I suspect the same is true regards dishwashers, and it's on the internet therefore true! FACT.

For example, Hoover used to sell a 1200 spin 4.5Kg washing machine at over £400 in the 1990s, yet you can now (2008) buy a Hoover 1600 spin 6Kg washing machine for £211. That's inflation in reverse and it's achieved in large part by reducing quality and repair-ability.

In 1973, a basic Hoover washing machine was £94.88, in today's prices that's £687 ( Source Inflation calculator ). Today - over 30 years later a similarly basic model but with faster spins and a bigger drum can be bought for £220. That's equivalent to just £30.77 in 1973. So in 30 years, the price of a basic washing machine has dropped (in real terms) by nearly 70% which is absolutely staggering.

A 70% reduction in cost 30 years later is impossible without reducing the quality and longevity of the product. If you want to produce a washing machine made as well as the Hoover was in 1973 it would cost much more like £500+ and with extra features and technical advances it could easily be £700+.

Like I said FACTS

£900? Won't someone please think of the opportunity cost...?!

Well I decided the Hotpoint I bought for £330 3 years ago was a good bet. Very quiet and looks quite nice too really.

For those advocating warm water and washing up liquid, do you take your laundry and a washboard down to the river still? If you use a dishwasher properly they can be just as efficient and a lot more hygienic. Siemans here by the way, not put a jet wrong in five years.

DP

Like I said FACTS

But only some of them. People are now getting 10yrs out of their 200 quid machine but no-one was getting 3times the life out of a machine that cost 3times as much. Lifetime per pound IS going up even if you think the quality is going down. Take for example the controllers that used to be incredible pieces of mechanics with a million little switches on a clockwork mechanism. They must have been horrible to construct but now you jut replace them with a microcontroller that costs a fraction of the price to make and does a much better job. Sometimes stuff can be cheaper and just as good (from someone who loves his on-one frame)

I remember the Radio Rentals man coming around frequently to mend the CRT telly. They were too expensive for my parents to buy. Modern technology makes things cheeper and more reliable, who mends tvs nowadays? I'm with leffeboy on this.

Obviously I have no point of reference atm but numerous people and t'interweb have said dishwashers are much more water efficient than hand washing.

We're now on a water meter and whilst this wasn't much of a factor in this [s]toy[/s] purchase, I'm curious if anyone has any experience on water savings?

For £900 you could buy an ex-dem professional machine with 2 minute cycle and at least 10 years of life! We've just bought one for our village hall.
As for Bosch etc, from what I understand many white goods are made by the same manufacturer (frinstance Gorenje make Bosch fridges) and re-badged or have slightly different controls.
And our AEG (sale, £199) still works beautifully after 5 years...

though two pages of replies on a Friday night is very very sad is it not :wink:?

Coming from someone who drops £900 on a dishwasher. It just gets better and better.

Would love to know how the dishwasher performs btw. 😉

Next you need an expensive iron:

2 speed fan under table to suck clothes down or float them above table, 50psi 'dry' steam', streams when iron moved in forward direction, stops on return, refillable during use, etc.

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yours for £1200:

http://www.laurastar.com/en/e-shop/

recommended...

Wait, I've found something even more expensive

[url= http://www.greenandeasy.co.uk/product/vzug-adora-sl-extra-size-design-integrated-dishwasher-with-black-glass.aspx ]V-ZUG Adora SL[/url] anyone? 😯

As a repairer of white goods, Miele are pretty damn good...
However when it does go wrong prepare to pay through the nose. ISE are good basic machines and i seem to remember somthing along the lines of a 10 year warranty ..
Bosch have slipped recently but still make a decent enough dishwasher and thats what i bought although the flow meter packed in recently - a tenner for me to sort it out but probably £100 to most.
Hotpoint/Indestit ?? The older stuff is much better as Hotpoint were recently taken over by Indesit and instead of Indesit raising their game up to Hotpoint they dragged Hotpoint down to their level so not good really ...
If i was taling a punt now as joe public i`d opt for a cheapish bosch or Zanussi and take out 5 years cover for a ton or so ....

I got a bosch one for £50 from ebay

faultless

The thing about Bosch is that even though they seem disturbingly predictable and reliable (10 years from tumbler, washing machine and dishwasher - fridge still going strong at 10.5 years) both parts and diagrams are normally easy to source so fixing it yourself is an option for £10 not £100 until they do completely flake out (washing machine needed a new motor which was 2/3 of the cost of new machine, the dish washer was just eroded through use on the water routes to the point we were considering lobbing it and then the pump died).

They paid their dues.