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RIght! Can we have an update non-smokerists?

I'm 11 days in and the last couple of days have seen a bit of a benchmark. I used to get up in the morning and the first thing I'd do would be have a coffee and a cig. So last week I was still using the e-cig while having a morning coffee. This week I haven't, and I haven't really thought about it either. Just sort of stopped. Still hammering it in the evenings though. But I can live with that for the time being.

Hows everyone else doing?


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 2:29 pm
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In the last week I've gone from a 35-40 a day habit, to smoking a maximum of 5 or 6 with 3 consecutive days completely fag free..

The vapouriser is definitely taking away the cravings very efficiently, and I'm not using it as much as I thought I would.. certainly not at the same rate that I would be smoking


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 3:04 pm
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Awesome work both of you, really good going.

The habit of smoking was the one thing I found hardest to break and it looks like you've both found a way of breaking that part.

Keep going!


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 3:05 pm
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Thats pretty bloody impressive Yunki. Both your ability to smoke 40 fags a day (I've never even managed that on an all dayer), and your success in reducing it to nowt

Good work fella!!


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 3:10 pm
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4 weeks fully with not even the odd crafty one when the Mrs ain't about, I'm a a serial vaper, and quitter. Vape for a while then have a crafty tab when she isn't around/having a beer with the lads.
Using my own mixed 3mg juice, so barely nothing


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 3:42 pm
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only time I smoke is If I'm drunk, which is usually once a year at an SS event. Years of behavioral conditioning mean that If i'm boozed up i smoke, so I quit drinking at the same time and again it a special event kind of thing. may have to do a tea total SSUK, Europeans and worlds just so I can say that proper im a non smoker, even worse I may have to just get racey and try hard and then I wont smoke either, but that's crazy talk!


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 4:12 pm
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good work, giving up isn't easy and don't get tempted by the "odd one", before you know it it ramps upgain

i stopped 2 years ago with champix (don't use it, horrible stuff, i've had long lasting side effects), however over the past 9 months the weekend on the p*ss smoking has crept back in to the point where buying and smoking a 20 pack if on the pop all day.

now trying an e-cig at the weekends to avoid tobacco whilst at the same time trying to not get fully addicted to nicotine again!

has anyone who stopped tobacco but uses an e-cig noticed an improvement in cardio ability? I'm using my e-cig more than i was smoking fags (ie sometimes in the week) and i don't want to go back to suffering pigeon lungs!


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 4:20 pm
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Stopped sometime in June not sure when - completely mind blanked the whole thing -
no vape no patches nothing

Occasionally a tickly feeling about needing to take one of those "breaks"

Just ignore it ..


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 4:44 pm
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@sofaboy, yeah cardio ability has improved being just on the e cig, although the normal cigs didn't really affect me that much, on the old lung capacity test at the quacks, I used to blow 700, now 2 years later on and offsmoking vaping I'm at 720


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 7:47 pm
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Mrs Stu blows 450 being an asthmatic as a comparison


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 7:48 pm
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It helps to incentivise … and use man maths.

I was on about 5 packs of 20 a week. I gave up 16 years ago and in that time my hobby / toy fund has bought the following:

Five new motorbikes:
Honda XR650r
Honda XR400r
BMW G650 Dakar
BMW G650 Xchallenge
Husqvarna FE 450

Then moved on to bikes;
Specialized Rockhopper
Specialized Carve
Trek Rumblefish Pro
GT Grade 105 Carbon

OK I’ve traded previous bikes in or sold them on to part fund the next one but I’ve also bought loads of kit, insurances, servicing, dirt bike holidays - and a trip to LaMolina this year on the MTB. Still got the Grade & Rumble.

My hobby / toy fund budget is broadly about what I would have spent on smoking - over the past 16 years that would have been £23000.

Historic fag prices [url= http://www.the-tma.org.uk/tma-publications-research/facts-figures/uk-cigarette-prices/ ]here[/url]:

Tax alone on the fags would have been £17700!!

And of course your hobby / toy budget is index linked so it goes up each in line with the cost of fags!

Next year my budget is £2200.

Its not a perfect calculation but it works for me!


 
Posted : 12/09/2015 1:00 pm
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Paul - that's exactly what I'm doing. All the money I would have spent on fags is going into a savings account labelled 'new bike fund' at the end of the week. I was smoking about 15 a day, so that's about £40 a week. As an incentive my better half, who has always hated me smoking, has promised to match fund it. Bless her.

The plan is to keep putting the money away and ride my present bike through the winter, then spank all the cash next spring on a very nice custom build. Doing the maths, by next May I'm going to be looking at a very very nicely specced new 650b Orange P7


 
Posted : 12/09/2015 1:21 pm
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I'm going to be looking at a very very nicely specced new 650b Orange P7

The rest of the MNPR crew will expect you to relinquish your tail-gunner status if you're going to do justice to the bike.


 
Posted : 12/09/2015 2:06 pm
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Paul - that's exactly what I'm doing. All the money I would have spent on fags is going into a savings account labelled 'new bike fund' at the end of the week. I was smoking about 15 a day, so that's about £40 a week

Do it !! It's like having a free new bike every year or so. It's so easy to justify nice toys when the money is essentially free... proper man maths that!


 
Posted : 12/09/2015 5:31 pm
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Afterstarting at 16 and jacking at probably 40, only then to have the occasional few when drunk,I am not a non smoker proper like.

To "give up" initially ( not including temporary intoxicated smokes), I initially identified my triggers. They were:

Instant coffee
Lager
Leaving work at the end of the day
A particular set of traffic lights on the way to work.

I drank tea or propercoffee, drank wine instead of Lager, drove a different way to work. The hardest tab to give up on was the after work one but the ridiculousness of the traffic lights making me wanting smoke made it all the easier to Jack in.

I am proud to say I cold turkey'd my self off them about 7 years ago.

Avoid your triggers. You'll succeed.


 
Posted : 12/09/2015 10:47 pm
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triggers maybe, for me it was/is def more about routine. Every time I broke my routine ie holidays, I could easily go without, but I'd be straight back on the cigs once I got back into everyday routine. I hated smoking for all the usual reasons and discovered e-cigs about 4 years ago and haven't smoked since, but still vape regularly. The real smoking crunch came when I realised I couldn't romp uphill and hold a conversation at the same time, time to deal with it. I have zero self discipline, but vaping has put my lungs back to where they were 20 years ago, I can now easily hill walk and talk without issue. I have some concerns about vaping, but it has been obvious that my lungs and fitness have massively benefited from vaping.
keep at it everyone/anyone, even if it is just becomes a substitute, it will always be 100 times better than smoking IMO.


 
Posted : 12/09/2015 11:32 pm
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So how is it going for everyone, Hope you're all getting on ok?

I joined the club on Monday and so far I'm smoke free and no vaping either. I was on 8 a day when at work but never at the weekends unless drinking. Looking forward to getting my lungs back together!


 
Posted : 24/09/2015 12:25 pm
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Aye oop.

Well I'm still off the fags. Its a god few weeks now. The new bike fund is looking healthy.

I confess that I had a brief lapse last Sunday as I'd been to Anfield to watch a Liverpool game, and it was so unbelievably tedious and depressingly boring that I had a B&H or two in the pub afterwards.

However, disgusted with myself for caving in, I immediately developed such a venomous bout of man flu that I not only haven't had a fag since then, I haven't even been resorting to my e-cig either. This is major progress

Oh... and good luck teadrinker!

Hows everyone else getting on?


 
Posted : 25/09/2015 1:19 pm
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Good stuff bins.


 
Posted : 25/09/2015 2:23 pm
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[quote=binners said]Aye oop.
Well I'm still off the fags. Its a god few weeks now. The new bike fund is looking healthy.
I confess that I had a brief lapse last Sunday

So you're on day 5 then 😉


 
Posted : 25/09/2015 2:25 pm
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Just thought I'd resurrect this for a bit of an update, and see how everyone else is getting on.

I'm coming up for 6 weeks off the things now (except the brief Scouser induced lapse), and feeling so much better for it. I'm starting to allow myself the thought that I might actually have cracked it for good this time. Not that I'm allowing myself to get complacent.

My problem was that the thought that I'd be less annoying or irritating than usual if I stopped smoking. I needn't have worried. I've got it covered. I now look down my nose, in that smug condescending manner so familiar to a lot of people on here, as my mates come back in to the pub having been outside in the rain for a fag, that horrible faggy smell wafting in behind them. I really have lost the desire to join them. So I've actually managed to become even more annoying. Result, eh? 😀

The new bike fund was looking very healthy, so I just spanked that, and quite a bit more as well, on a new toy! Yay!!! But I'm going to keep putting away the B&H money away in the new bike fund, on an N+1 basis

Hows everyone else getting on then?


 
Posted : 09/10/2015 10:09 am
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2 months off them now. Hurray for the new smug, sanctimonious me!!! 😀

Now I need to address the elephant in the room - literally - me. I've put on over half a stone. I was hardly svelte to begin with. The pies have been working their comfort food replacement magic 😥

Anyone else got an update then?


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 11:13 am
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I'm back on the e-cigs now after a bad couple of months back on the roll ups.

Reduced my nic level to 6mg and feeling optimistic.
The only problem with the e cigs though is that they get rid of the desire to give up completely as they feel relatively harmless


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 11:57 am
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The only problem with the e cigs though is that they get rid of the desire to give up completely as they feel relatively harmless
That's my worry when those I care about consider using them to give up.
Reduced my nic level to 6mg and feeling optimistic.
whats that equivalent in normal cigs? 10 a day? 20? less?


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 12:31 pm
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The Nicorette mints worked for me all those years ago. I had to break the habit of hand to mouth, breathing in, exhaling etc. E-Cigs weren't even a thing when I quit, but they probably wouldn't have worked for me for that reason.


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 12:35 pm
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[quote="binners"]I've put on over half a stone.You could just go out and ride the new bike? Or use the bike fund to buy the kit to actually go out riding in all weathers (and don't stop off at the pub on the way home. I reckon 50% of rides that finish at the pub you put more back in than you've just burnt off!)

You could do a Hora, and buy a road bike? (and then try not to sell it)


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 1:37 pm
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The only problem with the e cigs though is that they get rid of the desire to give up completely as they feel relatively harmless

..the other problem is that you look like a complete bell-end. if I was stopping now, those hideous bits of plastic would not be anywhere on my agenda.


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 1:48 pm
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Good work binners. That post-fag smell really is bloody awful isn't it? At work I've asked people to go away and come back in 10 minutes not out of any kind of sanctimony but because the stink makes me feel nauseated.


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 1:49 pm
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The only problem with the e cigs though is that they get rid of the desire to give up completely as they feel relatively harmless

They are.


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 1:54 pm
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great stuff Binners, well done!! 😀


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 1:56 pm
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..the other problem is that you look like a complete bell-end.

I couldn't care less, to be honest. I am absolutely determined that this is it, and I'm not starting smoking again. So if that helps me do that while I'm at my greatest risk - having a pint - then I really wouldn't care if it was 3ft long, neon pink, with flashing lights on it*

You could just go out and ride the new bike? Or use the bike fund to buy the kit to actually go out riding in all weathers (and don't stop off at the pub on the way home.

The problem is that the packing in smoking has coincided with me working somewhere that is just that bit too far to commute on the bike. And I've been banging the hours in, so haven't been able to get out much in the evenings either. 🙁

However, this changes today when I finish this contract. The next one is a 7 mile each way commute which I intend to do at least 3 times a week, tagging in an extended off-road route home. That should shift some timber.

* This may be a gross exaggeration


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 2:05 pm
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.the other problem is that you look like a complete bell-end

My looking cool days are over anyway so that doesn't bother me + It allows me to buy weird looking steel and glass devices from China and smoke them.

whats that equivalent in normal cigs? 10 a day? 20? less?

I have been told by the internet that a cigarette is around 18mg.


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 2:08 pm
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18 mg in one cigarette?


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 2:16 pm
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I have been told by the internet that a cigarette is around 18mg

That's per PACK, not per cigarette.

And the amounts quoted on eliquids are per mg/ml

So if you smoke a pack of 18mg cigs/day you've had 18mg of nicotine.

To get the same from an ecig (using 6mg juice) you would need to get through 30ml/day. (No chance!)


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 2:33 pm
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I seem to get through between 3 - 5ml per day and have found a few of the £1 liquids quite pleasing which keeps the cost down


 
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Personally I wouldn't trust the Chinese made cheapie liquids, and certainly not anything that costs £1

I use Decadent Vapours stuff and mix my own. Costs me £10/month (ish) and I use it a fair bit as I drive all day.

Its top quality UK manufactured stuff l, and as I mix it myself, I know exactly what is in it.


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 3:33 pm
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Never started smoking myself, literally tried it once, (a mate up the road swiped some of his dad's ciggies and we went up the woods and lit up), and just thought it was disgusting. My dad smoked, died from a heart attack when I was thirteen, cigs were probably the cause.
One of my best mates used to smoke regularly, usually Galloise, and one day just thought, "right, that's it, I'm stopping", put the part smoked packet in a drawer in his desk, and as far as I know, it's still where he left it; that must be twenty-odd years ago now.
It's perfectly possible if you have the strength of will to tell yourself to stop, so very best of luck to everyone who are trying to give up.


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 7:18 pm
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There is literally [i]nothing funny[/i] about vaping. 😯

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Personally I wouldn't trust the Chinese made cheapie liquids

Me neither but the ones I'm talking about are made in Stockport using UK nic etc


 
Posted : 28/10/2015 10:38 am
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it is amazing people still smoke


 
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Posted : 28/10/2015 1:22 pm
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Aye oop all. Seeing as its new year I thought I'd resurrect this thread, as I'm sure people will be thinking of packing in

I've not had a fag in over 4 months now, after having a crack with the e-cig as a result of this thread.

If I'm honest I'm sort of missing my annual grudging, obligatory half-arsed attempt to pack in smoking that the end of December ushers in.

Good luck to anyone giving up tonight. I seem to have managed it. And I'm the most weak willed human being ever to have walked the earth


 
Posted : 31/12/2015 7:10 pm
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Good stuff binners. Faster on the bike yet?


 
Posted : 31/12/2015 7:12 pm
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Still dog slow Molls. That'll never change. I just don't sound like a slowly deflating bagpipe on the climbs any more. Which is nice 😀


 
Posted : 31/12/2015 7:23 pm
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Fair play to all who have a go at quitting, no matter how!
I've been on ecigs for nearly two years, and am much better off, both financially and health wise....no doubt.

And it's easy too......


 
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