ooff, he's almost got Johnson losing his temper... awesome
What would you have him do then @loum? He has to tread carefully at the moment, and that’s just what he’s doing.
I don’t think many people want a confrontational yaa-boo approach to politics at the moment.
This is a long game. To use your own parlance; it’s a war, not a battle. The government will be held accountable for this shambles at the imminent public inquiry. And Starmer has repeatedly got him to commit to giving answers to what are surely going to be pertinent questions at the point.
Maybe a shouty 10-second soundbite to put out on Twitter would be a better approach? It was brilliantly effective in the past!
SKS on perfect form, I thought. Johnson is just a frickin' clown.
SKS on perfect form
The look of disbelief over the confidential letter response, then the "No problem, I'll just make it public" approach. He manoeuvres Johnson very well.
Johnson is just a frickin’ clown.
Absolutely true, but I still worry that, for Joe Public, he has an answer to everything, and a lot of fans will hear the response to "I haven't had a reply to my confidential letter" as "but I phoned you about it, so what's the problem...", without any more thought.
Edit: Kryton makes a very good point, but soooo many people aren't interested enough to then read the letter when it's published, or even think much more about it
Somehow, Napoleon would not be standing by if he was losing people like this.
In the closing actions of Waterloo, as his elite troops got torn to literal shreds by massive concentrations of allied firepower. Napoléon turned and said (I’m paraphrasing here) “we’ve lost, let’s get the” then ran away as his army collapsed into disarray.
It also transpires that formations put together to cover such a rout fired into their own retreating men for fear of being overrun by those pursuing them.
Would've been nice if he'd got a Cummings question in just to watch fat boy flounder a bit but I suppose he's had ample opportunity to rehearse his evasion what with the liaison committee and soft soap BBC questions
Boris didn't like the track and trace accusations did he!! Do they know the questions before hand?
Starmer owns johnson - again.
Anyone else think johnson looks rough? He is being shown up as ill-prepared, a liar, dim, detached from reality.
eskay - no, questions not made known to PM before PMQs but standard practice has been for support team to brief and school PM on likely subjects and suggested responses; johnson is not known for doing any preparation - for anything.
Might just be me being dim but...
"World leading" Test Track and Trace system by 1st June blah blah blah....
If the App that was developed/being developed isnt in use with the population yet, how exactly are we doing the Track and Trace part of this? Forgive me if I'm wrong but asking "who have you been close to in the last 2 weeks?" cannot be a reliable method to say we've even got a Track and Trace system, let alone a World Leading system.
Or am I just missing something?
If you're missing it, then so am I. It seems what limited capability we've fudged into place isn't being used, and it's a manual process exactly as you've described above, I think.
Almost completely useless, and utterly indicative of what we have in our government.
One of the journalists reporting on PMQs did make the point that we're not hearing much on what the Labour government would do differently - I suspect that's deliberate, so that we're not seeing too much of anything but cooperation and gentle holding to account, but that will need to come at some point in the not-too-distant future, I think...
Human led processes are more important than the mobile app (according to studies in South Korea etc, where mobile apps were identified as a useful addition rather than central to the success of TTI there) but the idea that our ‘manual’ system was properly up and running, and world class, on 1st June, is just pure bullshit. Most people know that.
Of course, you can page back through other threads to see why we don’t have the mobile app to use… and even if we did why it wouldn’t be as useful as it could be… many of us pointed out the mistakes made by the government with the app from the very start… why the wrong approach was taken, and the wrong people used to deliver it… and, of course, the NHS branding was used as cover for all that, again.
The YouGuv one looks like an outlier, so far.
That maybe due to the way it is funded and run! 😉
Apparently Johnson was using an earpiece in PMQ's...
cloudnine - that's an interesting assertion; what's your source?
Not sure how reliable it is..
Could be an earpiece, or could be empty space. But it's a good yarn to keep the public's mind tuned to think who's manipulating the marionette.
Perhaps this virus messes with your hearing as well as your eyesight.
Biffle boffle
protected the NHS
baffle buffle
fluffle floffle
rates down
boofle falafel
no figures, no details, no much nothing else except jingo slogan type answers
keep it up SKS
I said to my wife that I thought he was wearing an earpiece a week ago during the briefing with Vallance and Whitty where he cut them off form answering questions about Cummings.
He had that ridiculous hair carefully arranged so that you couldn't see in his ears and he seemed to frequently drift off as though he wasn't listening to what was happening in the room.
spectator claim fake news and the pm can obviously think on his feet are you sure ? 😀
This weeks PMQ’s was basically Johnson either losing his temper or begging Starmer to stop being mean to him. He’s pathetic.
Would be great to hijack his bluetooth and see if you can prompt him to resign during PMQs.
are you sure ?
Sure that I said it? .....Absolutely.
Sure that I thought it? ....Positive.
Sure that he was wearing an earpiece?..... Not even slightly.
Michael Spicer in the room next door has been rumbled?
the "are you sure" entirely rhetorical and directed at spectator claim of fake news and was in no way panther related.
Yeah, I got that and agree it most likely is fake news but i'm also pretty sure that Boris Johnson being fed lines through an earpiece would be the least unbelievable thing about this entire shit show.
For example, it's less believable than me wildly speculating about it and then, by sheer coincidence, an ambiguous photo appearing to show exactly that appearing a week later.
seems like he need to clean his ears properly
If he had someone feeding him lines in an Earpiece, he'd have some better comebacks
Today was just,react angrily and say some nonsensical crap, which tbf has worked for him for done time now
Didn't Reagan once mumble "why doesn't the old bastard say something?" because he was using an earpiece and the staff didn't have the answer. He sat mute for a few seconds and a staffer who was in the 'Ops Room' got exasperated and said the words(?)
That may be a story I have been told, can't remember....
spectator claim fake news and the pm can obviously think on his feet are you sure ? 😀
Where did Mary Wakefield and husband say they sat out their brush with Covid19 in the Spectator article again?
I was just thinking that. If I wanted an unbiased opinion of Joris Bohnsons abilities I doubt I’d be asking the Spectator.
More to the point: if Dom was the one on the other end of the earpiece then he did a rubbish job. Again.
How did he get this reputation as a master of the dark arts again? Other than thinking up catchy 3 word slogans, he’s a bit shit at this, isn’t he?
He’s no Malcolm Tucker
Would be great to hijack his bluetooth and see if you can prompt him to resign during PMQs.
...and I'm Boris Johnson. Go **** yourself House of Commons
If he was on an earpiece, whoever was on the other end was absolutely rubbish. Better off without it.
This weeks PMQ’s was basically Johnson either losing his temper or begging Starmer to stop being mean to him. He’s pathetic.
Keir Starmer seems to have inherited his mother's aptitude for owning donkeys.*
*Sadly not mine, just seen it on Twitter.
Barry Gardiner surely trying to stitch SKS up? Why else would he be such a cock?
Comment in Guardian that johnson is complaining about Starmer opposing him when that's what the opposition do.
ctk - as for Gardiner, see my post in thread about protests; he's more than just a cock - stupid, irresponsible, risk to himself and others.
enlightening people with (mostly) alliterative patterns of three: Brexit Means Brexit, Get Brexit Done, Take Back Control, Get a Grip, Clunk and Click, Shower of
I think Starmer is acting in a long term way. As well as the ritual skewering at PMQs he is building a list of lies and evasions to use against Johnson at future PMQs and also building evidence for the inevitable inquiry
Barry Gardiner surely trying to stitch SKS up? Why else would he be such a cock?
Are you unfamiliar with his whole ‘career’? The bloke is an absolute bell end!
I see he his getting a monthly slot on LBC for a phone in now
Still a big gap between the public view of the leader and the party…
Very worrying.
I haven't seen anything from the usual suspects for a while on Starmer's superb performances at PMQs...
