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call that retro? 😛
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Aye, that's not retro expat, RTS with DX vees, that's good retro skills. Let down by modern tyres mind 😛
I think it was the seat and the Shivers that did it ex-pat 😉 . Looks great anyway 😛
More just old, then retro 😉
Ta, just like me then.
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that norcos only what 6/7 years old ? they still use damn near the same design anyway ....
they could never get their headangles right - were all ways he wrong side of sharp ... ridden slacker XC bikes. ...
so nearly bought a lobo in 98 - glad i didnt 😀 3 bolt rockshox cable activated hydraulic disks - it liked to eat rear shocks and trunion chips ... can you tell my mate bought it instead 😀 - would drool over that in the local bike shop back in the day !
Sick Lobo. Mine is borderline retro: this is 2000-2002 but I think the cutoff really has to be 1998. [img]
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hands up who wanted an atx 1 ?
who wanted a sintesi bazooka (mk1)
mk1 super 8 with coke can hole and bullet front end ?
a bullet
best i could do was a b17 ...... but at least it was priced at (extreme) paper round budgets .... no lunches and no spending for 6 months got me that bike !
nope, rode all of those and never wanted any of them.
oh, and Norco's DH bikes look nothing like that anymore and have decent geometry
trail_rat, I wanted all of those bikes, notwithstanding my complete lack of skill or funding.
but still snap happy ....
i believe they actually issued a recall on the 08/09 dh frame ....
a bendy down tube kona stab deelux was another bike i wanted - 2 mates had them - one snaped the chainstay and the others linkage had an annoying tendancy to clatter his seat tube near full travel !
That list completes me.
^^^ Is that Mint Sauce?
Shame that it's not mine, wish it was, it's stunning
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From: http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90883&highlight=pace
That looks like it would snap XC, with a fatknacker like me on it!
Thanks all, nice pics.
And @ trail_rat, wasn't me who called it retro - but it is kinda old...
And totally agree that it's much the same as their current design - the '11 team DH is remarkably similar.
Don't have an issue with head angle, but it is steep compared to some stuff out there for sure.
Lucky for me that I'm just not that good... 😉
Desire for a Super 8 isn't diminished, and having tried a bullet, I'd never say no to one of those either.
That Pace frame was sat in On Yer Bike on Tooley Street, London Bridge for years before that guy finally rescued it for a project.
The shop were still asking £1200 for it but no idea how much the guy paid in the end. He's done a fab job on it though!
not that retro just a bit old
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Oooh purest orange 😛 . Looks similar to the old Club Roost frames.
Dave Gti is winning IMO, just beats spacehopper's RTS through use of period tyres and mahoosive front ring. Zeds dead's lobo a close third - a plastic one would've won.
aah is that a set of zzyzx forks? whatever happened to them..
sintesi bazooka, i used to love that bike
Isaac - always wanted one of those, you have mail
ZZYZX forks and possibly an FSA Sidewinder crank? Nice!
Bonus points for the tioga saddle and that horrifically clashing seatpost.
GT LTS DH About 1996 I think. Sold it now though.
My brother picked one of those up from Gumtree for 100 quid with knackered bearings, lad wanted 250, brother said 100 quid call me if you don't sell it, two weeks later it was his, 30 quid a set of bearings and locktite, couple of new wheels and he was good to go.
'96 LTS DH didn't have bearings
96 LTS DH didn't have bearings
Maybe newer then.
Same bike as that, I'm sure. Will have to check now. Looks the same, but he doesn't have the rear disc mounts.
It used bushes but a lot of owners upgrade to bearings using the BETD bearing kit which was a great improvement.
Aye but the kit didn't fit the '96 LTS, only '97 onwards.
if you want to know which frame is 96 and which is 97, the 96 had a Titanium linkage, the 97 onwards had an alloy link with crappy plastic insert holding the ropey adjustable trunion mount the shock screwed into (the threads would turn while you rode)
Aye but the kit didn't fit the '96 LTS, only '97 onwards.
if you want to know which frame is 96 and which is 97, the 96 had a Titanium linkage, the 97 onwards had an alloy link with crappy plastic insert holding the ropey adjustable trunion mount the shock screwed into (the threads would turn while you rode)
" (the threads would turn while you rode)"
Did it on the plastic STS too. Somewhere I've got a pic of a mod to stop this happening to mate's bike in the alps. Basically it involved a load of big zipties so that it couldn't unscrew itself.
Mod was made after an unscheduled trailside service incident 🙂
Nice riding bikes tho, way ahead of their time in terms of sus action.
Sadly no pic - but my first DH bike was a ’92 Orange Clockwork with Pace RC36 forks – a Crud Chain device & purple bits from x-lite & onza – now that’s retro
a buddy of mine had the scott FX dh with the banana seat - yellow and blue ..
another had the more modern white and blue one with twin shocks and silly seat ....
neither were any good .... first ones headangle was somewhere about perpendicular to the floor ... the second one weighed a tonne and cornered like a barge
*Hands up* squirrel, I'm an old skool DH geek (to be fair, it's one of the only parts of my memory from the '90s that's still in tact 😳 )
AI - I spent the last 2 days of my Morzine trip in '97 riding mine with the actual linkage held together with jubilee clips, I bought all the hardware store in Morzine had, each run I'd strap it with 5 or 6 and be lucky to get to the bottom with one or two still holding the bike together. them were the days, eh?
Damn you 8690q, I lusted after one of those well past the point that it was socially acceptable.
Fantastic bike I say.
The LTS DH didnt have a rear disk mount, I just put an A2Z adptor on the back. Rear shock 'popped' on about the first outing in the Alps. Still worked well enough for me. The forks flexed back and forwards more than they went up and down. All the bushings creaked and groaned. But it served me well until the rear shock link bolt sheered through one day in Morzine. Bodged it back together with zip ties and duct tape though. Bought it for £350, and sold it for £450 after much abuse (but was very honest about its condition).
[Geek]the last LTS DH frames had mounts on the seat stay for a disc brake adapter plate GT that sold seperately to bolt to (gotta remember, this was before anyone had settled on disc mount "standards")
"Aye but the kit didn't fit the '96 LTS, only '97 onwards.
if you want to know which frame is 96 and which is 97, the 96 had a Titanium linkage, the 97 onwards had an alloy link with crappy plastic insert holding the ropey adjustable trunion mount the shock screwed into (the threads would turn while you rode)"
No, there was a bearing kit for the 96 too. Not as comprehensive as the later ones but a bearing kit none the less.
hmm.. I'll have to take your word for it then, never seen a '96 with bearings.
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I love LTS bikes, used to sell them and had an LTS1 (98) as well as the Lobo. Yep - I regret selling that one too.....
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Keep the pics coming folks - great thread. I may even have something to post myself in a week or two 😉
Retro? Pah, I remember when 'downhill' bikes were hardtails with 50-60mm forks!
The sad truth is, someone like Steve Peat could probably beat any of us on such a machine, and us on a 10" current state of the art DH bike!
[url= http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=680542&sid=726ae131723c42a99c9b96cd809fdc76 ]Check the retro bling on here![/url]
Oooh cheers Captain 😛 . Not been on retrobike for a couple of weeks.
Mama, I'll be looking out for you over there...! 😉
Cool . . . I may be some time 8)
excellent link GW
GW, that one's been in my favourites for quite a while now! Some amazing/scary/brilliant/hilarious stuff in there!
Wonder how many of those bikes were trashed by some joker trying to ride it like that...
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