We are not asking for anything the Tory party isFor those asking for May's resignation you should bear this in mind
I dont care what **** leads them as it wont alter my voting intentions but can you address the issue rather than doing a very imprecise and strange attack on those who are saying she has little chance of remaining
DO you still think she has not put a foot wrong with the campaign [ I think we can assume you accept all your predictions were wrong now - might want to read mine now Mr Nostradamus] and you think she is the only choice - you know address the topic rather than try and shoot some ill defined person who should be worried about the alternatives - is that Tory voters BTW
In our democracy do we replace her with someone who received far fewer votes
Well she did tell us if corbyn got six seats from her he would be the next pm. Are you saying she is doing a U-turn?
BBC News - 'It is the right thing that she [TM] tries to do her constitutional duty'
What's this? Some sort of formal dump at Buckingham Palace?
Boris wont wash with the DUP who want a soft Brexit
Boris only cares about Boris, what kind of Brexit he has to sign up for is secondary.
Theresa May received 43% of the votes which makes her the most popular leader in voting terms.In our democracy do we replace her with someone who received far fewer votes ?
No one is gpign to try and spin it like that not even the most ardent May supporter
It was a terrible night for her personally [ expected a three figure majority] and she chose to call the election and make it about her personality and boiy has that been seen to be a major failing.
Clearly her judgement is under question and can you imagine the EU reaction when she says I am strong and stable and the country is behind me in these negotiations
jambalaya - MemberThe replacement leader candidates are (in order of likelihood)
Boris Johnston
David Davies
Amber Rudd
Andrea LeadsomFor those asking for May's resignation you should bear this in mind
Conservative insiders are apparently (according to R4) blaming David Davis for the election as he allegedly persuaded TM to hold it, and suggestions he should resign
.Boris Johnston
David Davies
Amber Rudd
Andrea Leadsom
Rudd has too slim a majority? and scrutiny of her tax affairs would be lethal to the Tories
Leadsome is an idiot of Baldrick's caliber
Davis as in reputation destroyed Brexit secret?tary? The one who's pushed TM to uturn on an early GE, cabinet position as brexshit sec is now untenable- no wonder he looked to befuddled when interviewed about polls last week.
Johnson only contender of your list, racist, clown who is more Marmite than Marmite
The smart money would be on Hammond, Osborne shoulda stuck around (he was very entertaining double act with Ed balls on ITV last )
At least we can all say May has played a blinder 🙂
I am sure she is indeed busy looking around to see who she can find to throw under the bus ,as a sacrificial scapegoat, to save her skin
I quite like him in the sense he has actual principles
Less sure how competent he is
In the words of one of STW's pet right wing nut jobs:
"May, the gift that keeps giving."
😆
She's going to hunker down, gordonstylee.
I'd be happy for her to stay. She can only do more damage to the Tory party if she does.
"A bloody difficult woman." 😆
This morning Theresa May looks as though she bet on a fart and lost.
Never trust a fart.
Boris wont wash with the DUP who want a soft Brexit
Boris has no strong opinions / convictions, he'll do anything to get in power.
Boris has no strong opinions / convictions, he'll do anything to get in power.
Indeed he will.
Osborne shoulda stuck around
Didn't realise he'd stepped down. Kicking himself now?
While I'd like to see May stay on, the Tories can be ruthless and there's no way they'll let her contest another GE.
Where is she ? Does someone need to knock on the door to check she's home.
I think it's funny.
Does no-one remember how she got the job on the first place? She was the only one to put herself forward as everyone else backed away from the Brexit clusterfunk - they don't have another potential candidate for the role that isn't badly tainted. It would be hilarious, if it wasn't so painful to watch the country ****ing itself.
They'll be grooming someone off the back benches while they keep her in and I bet my returning local MP will have designs on it long term. Watch out to hear more of Alex Chalk.
I'd bet on Philip Hammond for PM too
Can't see it being someone who's close to Theresa May
"Where is she ?"
On her way to the palace to ask permission to form a minority government .
isn't that in an hour and half.
I'd be happy for her to stay. She can only do more damage to the Tory party if she does.
Agreed. I think the outcome is the best possible result for Labour.
Strictly speaking, Theresa May didn't get any votes outside her own constituency.
Whole campaign was based around asking the country to back May and give her a huge majority (rather than the Conservatives). She has to go, though I don't think it'll be anytime soon. She certainly won't be allowed to lead another election.
Yep, she is going to the palace to seek permission to form minority government, can the Queen say no?
I think the party will want her to stay until the negotiations are done. Saves anyone else being tainted by them.
Though the EU might not be too keen to deal with her now her "Strong and Stable" 150 majority has gone up in smoke.
Though the EU might not be too keen to deal with her now her "Strong and Stable" 150 majority has gone up in smoke.
Brexit will hurt the UK far more than the EU, I doubt they're that bothered.
I think the party will want her to stay until the negotiations are done. Saves anyone else being tainted by them.
The trouble with that is they may not get to choose when the next election is. 3 line whip a go go.
Though the EU might not be too keen to deal with her now her "Strong and Stable" 150 majority has gone up in smoke.
I suspect that negotiations will need to be more conciliatory if May wants support in Parliament.
[quote=votchy ]Yep, she is going to the palace to seek permission to form minority government, can the Queen say no?
technically the queen[ actually the crown] asks someone to form their govt and they can ask anyone [ who is an MPP iirc] to do this
This is essentially a formality
she will be told to resign, shes a liability to a failing party, and a chap on sky tv saying an election before end of the year.
Strong and Stable My ARSE.
Hmmm might have been wrong about the DUP
seems they do like May, shes now beholden to a bunch of ultra-right wingers
not so great news for everyone
FunkyDunc - MemberShould Nicola Sturgeon resign ?
Nope - still the largest party in scotland by a long way and still the 3rd largest party in the UK. Independence is off the radar tho and she needs to do a load of hard thinking. the scottish election was very much SNP v the rest and union v independence
thegreatape - Member
Ruth Davidson kicking herself about not going for a Westminster seat.
Can someone do both, or would she have to stand down as an MSP?
She could do both but she won't. Far too smart to be tainted by running for Westminster and happy as a big fish in a small pond. Not right wing enough for westminster tory either
Should Nicola Sturgeon resign
Even using special Ruthie Tank Commander maths I can't find a way of making 13 + 7 + 4 add up to more then 35
The SNP had a poor night, they need to consider their message around if / when another 2nd referendum would happen but they are still the dominant party in Scotland
[quote=richmtb ]The SNP had a poor night, they need to consider their message around if / when another 2nd referendum would happen but they are still the dominant party in Scotland
Relative to last time they had a poor night. In absolute terms they had a superb night, the only party to win a majority of the seats they contested. Back to the drawing board for indyref2 probably - but I still think the threat of that was simply a negotiating tactic, NS knew all too well it still had insufficient support.
You could easily say that the scale of the Tory win is down to the SNP pushing indyrep2 and people voting the Tories in in previously Labour seats in opposition.
On the back of that result, Nicola Sturgeon should wind her neck in.
May should definitely go, owing to the fact that she has shown her true form: weak, misguided, erratic, vapid and unable to engage in debate. Best outcome would be to revoke Article 50 and just get things back to normal.
I can't see how she can stay but seems she's going to try. She's put herself in an incredibly weak position, the only positive from her perspective is the rest of the potential Tory leaders are likely to be even more unpopular.
we could only revoke article 50 if all the other EU member states agreed.
You could easily say that the scale of the Tory win is down to the SNP pushing indyrep2 and people voting the Tories in in previously Labour seats in opposition.
Well a little maybe, but the numbers don't really bear that out.
The Tories were always going to win the 3 seats in the Scottish borders.
Of the other 10 Seat they gained Labour could realistically only picked up one of them (East Ren)
So assuming that Tories would be on 309, Lab on 262 and SNP on 44
It would make forming a government more difficult for the Tories but wouldn't really help Labour
SNP vote share in Scotland is alot less than Tories (or Labour) in UK, only 36.9%
stolen from the bbc comments 🙂
The country have decided that no Prime Minister is better than a bad Prime Minister
we could only revoke article 50 if all the other EU member states agreed.
I'm 99% sure that's not true at all.
That result makes it impossible except for a minority one and all the other parties [ bar DUP who are not enough] oppose what they stand for so it would most likely have been a coalition of chaos or another electionSo assuming that Tories would be on 309, Lab on 262 and SNP on 44It would make forming a government more difficult for the Tories but wouldn't really help Labour
it is never off the radar for the Independence party and there was no way they could ever replicate what they did last time and by any other measure last night was a success. They won the most votes and the most seats and they have just won Scotland againIndependence is off the radar tho
Trying to paint that as a disaster or loss for them is really a sign of what you hope for not what they hope for
