[Closed] Should Theresa May resign?

BBC News - 'It is the right thing that she [TM] tries to do her constitutional duty'
What's this? Some sort of formal dump at Buckingham Palace?

mefty - Member

SNP vote share in Scotland is alot less than Tories (or Labour) in UK, only 36.9%

thats 'cos its a 4 party system here not 2 and a bit

Just to point out again. the SNP have a clear majority of the westminster seats, control of holyrood and took gains in the local elections. Hardly a total bust

Hope she stays, she will be great cannon fodder for the next General Election when it comes.

Strong and stable leadership.

Let the tories get on with all the behind the scenes plotting to get rid of her, it will happen.

Weaker brexit now because of the strong and stable leadership that the country wanted.

If she stays , then the tory squabbling will be entertaining, I don't care who leads them really. Just want a change of government.

Looks like there will be another general election relatively soon, softer brexit that alot of people don't want ( I'm a remoaner).

Should Theresa May resign?

Of course not silly goose. 😆

She should stay as long as she can.

Why should she worry about the opposition since she is in the govt.

Thick skin is the sign of politician so she doing well.

I shall support her again and again. 😆

Oh ya ... I am going to myself a bottle of brandy cognac. 😛

Don't forget your revolver!

Just to point out again. the SNP have a clear majority of the westminster seats, control of holyrood and took gains in the local elections. Hardly a total bust

But you are judged on relative performance, hence May's problems, Sturgeon has lost majority in Holyrood, 40% of her Westminster seats and 13% of her vote share.

To compare the SNP result with May is silly Mays problem is she just swapped a majority for a minority [ and from a point of perceived unassailable lead ] did the SNP?

The SNP could not hold the historically high [ and unprecedented] result they achieved last time and they still have support the likes of which the other parties can dream about and an actual real majority of Mps in their country.

To compare their result to May holding a voluntary election to get a stronger mandate and losing what she had is daft.

I shall support her again and again

unless you move to maidenhead or she appears on strictly theres not much chance of you getting to vote for her again
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Sturgeon has lost majority in Holyrood

The Holyrood system was designed to ensure the SNP should never have been able to achieve a majority, so that's not really a surprise.

Theresa May: the Butcher of Border Force, who in one of her previous ministerial jobs 'arranged' for over 30% of the staff to leave the organisation.
Now that the agency has limited resources and even more limited experienced staff, she wonders why the UK has an immigration problem and struggles to keep track of migrants, dangerous goods, people traffickers.... Utterly incompetent in everything she has done and dangerous to boot.
Off on a tangent but still very relevant to a totally ****ed up country:
Anyone been watching 'Broken'..?

To compare the SNP result with May is silly Mays problem is she just swapped a majority for a minority [ and from a point of perceived unassailable lead ] did the SNP?

I wasn't - but there has been a major shift in Scotland against the SNP, Unionist parties got over 60% of the vote - that is a lot worse than the Independence referendum, which they lost. Whichever way you cut it, that is a bad result for the SNP.

Theresa May's media patrons are extremely upset with her, judging by reports of Murdoch storming out of a party upon learning of the exit polls and the scathing assessment from the Daily Heil.

May will be having some uncomfortable meetings with the 1922 committee very soon, I've no doubt.

PM May got guts.

Now she can stand firm and fight her corner.

Anyone now want to talk about her inherited power? No? Yes?

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Too many threads to keep up with

Sturgeon and the SNP had nowhere to go other than down. As such her result isn't so much of a surprise, just a bit worse than expected. No need to quit over that.

As I said before if May goes it will be Boris or David Davies in all likelihood so be careful what yoy wish for

PM I imagine media bods aren't happy as the manifesto's commitment to repeal section 40 and no Levenson 2 are now worthless. I am delighted about that.

If the Tories really wanted to piss Labour off then the best thing they could do is leave May as PM and carry on as if nothing had happened for as long as possible.

Brexit Negotiations are now really dofficult. It was always tricky us trying to deal worh 27 voices and now the EU is staring at a similar issue. No doubt the EU wants a delay as more status quo equals more £££ for them. It is not at all clear it would go that way. A stabd off is if anything more likely

As I said before if May goes it will be Boris or David Davies in all likelihood so be careful what yoy wish for

I sincerely hope that your track record for accuracy is consistent here.

@epic thats fhe most likely outcome in the medium term

I said before if May goes it will be Boris or David Davies in all likelihood so be careful what yoy wish for

Glad you finally spoke about about levesson** shame you did not criticise it pre election.

* though you have reduced the list somewhat
** being in hacked off is possibly the only political thing we have in common

A stabd off is if anything more likely

That I'd pay good money to watch.

Cougar been right about most things the 4 years I have been here. This election is the first one I have got wrong. If you trawl back you'll see I repeatedly posted that an early election would be a mistake, a risk not worth taking

[quote=epicsteve ]If the Tories really wanted to piss Labour off then the best thing they could do is leave May as PM and carry on as if nothing had happened for as long as possible.
yes having an inept leader in charge ho the public dont like who has no charisma or charm is indeed the best way to get at labour and far more effective than having a decent leader in charge - Where is stoner at least he was RW with a brain.

You are trying so hard to annoy lefties with your childish barbs/insights that you are prepared too shoot yoursel fin the foot over and over again thinking it annoys us

Carry on keep her I absolutely adore her remaining she is ****ing brilliant

STOP AND THINK

If you trawl back you'll see I repeatedly posted that an early election would be a mistake, a risk not worth taking

If that is what it takes for you to think you always call it correctly then well done Trump would be proud of you

yes having an inept leader in charge ho the public dont like who has no charisma or charm is indeed the best way to get at labour and far more effective than having a decent leader in charge

I'm not suggesting it's the right thing to do - just that politics appears to have descended to that level so it could well happen. It's not as if there are any standout Tory replacements either.

You are trying so hard to annoy lefties with your childish barbs/insights that you are prepared too shoot yoursel fin the foot over and over again thinking it annoys us

I think you're confusing me with someone else BTW - I voted for a socialist party.

Cougar been right about most things the 4 years I have been here. This election is the first one I have got wrong. If you trawl back you'll see I repeatedly posted that an early election would be a mistake, a risk not worth taking

Seeing that you require your very own #jambafact I don't think you are in a position to tell anyone about the accuracy of what you say.

Throw enough shit and some of it sticks eh...

jambalaya - Member
Cougar been right about most things the 4 years I have been here. This election is the first one I have got wrong. If you trawl back you'll see I repeatedly posted that an early election would be a mistake, a risk not worth taking

PM May had no choice because if she did not call for election then she would be seen as weak. If she called for election she risk losing the majority because it was too close after the referendum. The opposition wind up is still fresh ...

PM May is doing the right thing because she needs to negotiate with EU bureaucrats.

She got guts to fight her own corner rather than being blamed for inheriting power.

Basically, the country is now starting from "new" with Brexit.

PM May is strong. 😛

@ jamby here is your first post on the May election thread have it as an aide memoir. Its not quite how you remember it as you called her actions a blinder

Just read through the 8 pages, some real jems. This one below sums it up for me.

So 7 weeks of political comment in the media by the commentators who got it so wrong last year?
Joy

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May will stand on a "hard Brexit" manifesto including WTO if necessary. She will add a commitment to keep employment protections as they are (ie at the "EU" level), minimum wage/living wage commitments. Election / manifesto means Tory soft-Brexit rebels are neutered

Tories to win by 100+ seats and of course extend their term in Government to 2022. As noted earlier this gives them more time post Brexit to secure new trade deals outside the EU putting them in the best possible position in 2022.

Not what I would have done but I can see the logic, May is playing a blinder.

POSTED 1 MONTH AGO # REPORT-POST

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/is-may-about-to-call-an-election/page/8#post-8419043

Cougar been right about most things the 4 years I have been here. This election is the first one I have got wrong. If you trawl back you'll see I repeatedly posted that an early election would be a mistake, a risk not worth taking

The nature of web forums is that your posting history is there for all to see.

@chewkw, you regularly post stuff that's utterly batshit insane, but this time you seem to be utterly ignorant of the way British politics works. If you want proof, go and pick up copies of today's Sun and Daily Mail. You can't miss them, they're called "newspapers" and right up until 21:59 last night they were strong supporters of Theresa May.

You also need to read up on the significance of the 1922 Committee.

PJM1974 - Member
@chewkw, you regularly post stuff that's utterly batshit insane, but this time you seem to be utterly ignorant of the way British politics works.

You want to govern then win the election. Simple. 😛

You part of the 22 committee? Guess not. 😆

It is politics it's Conservatives party in power so what is your involvement?

You want to govern then win the election. Simple.

You part of the 22 committee? Guess not.

None of that made any sense at all. But I'm gratified that your posting nonsense appears to please you. I think you've earned a biscuit.

Another election in the short term is unlikely. The Conservatives know that May is an electoral liability and that they need to have a new leader in place getting favourable polls before they can call another election.

I think an even bigger concern for the Conservatives is the fact that many voters who in this election considered that a vote for Corbyn/Labour was a wasted vote and so voted Lib Dem, Green or other, may now see Corbyn as a genuine contender and Labour as potential winners next time, and be prepared to vote for them: sucess breeds success and Labour and Corbyn now have momentum (pun intended).

So I think Conservatives would fear an even worse result if they go to the polls again quickly. Their problem is that the longer they try to govern with a minority, the more likely it is that they will suffer defeats in Parliament which lead to them being seen as weak and unfit for office, in the same way that the Labour minority government experienced prior to the Conservative victory in 1979.

Why and how has Arlene Foster been allowed to escape prosecution for her alleged involvement in the RHI scam that lost millions of taxpayers money?

I'm really struggling with the hypocrisy and bigotry (for want of better words) of things here.

Slowster has nailed it.

It's an extremely uncomfortable position for the Conservatives, there is likely to be in-fighting, especially as the right-wing coup of the party post referendum is reeling. The sensible option would be for a young, populist candidate to try and seek out the political middle ground. While Boris, Fox and Davis could be contenders for any leadership challenge, they would inherit a mess that could consign the party to the electoral doldrums in 2022 - or sooner if the DUP alliance proves unworkable. The headlines in the hitherto pro-May press said it all. They don't blame a resurgent centre left, they blame the person who called this election in the first place.

must have missed Slowsters post... thanks for that.

But doesn't that mean the country and the people have to put up with more uncertainty and pain whilst we wait patiently for all this to unravel.

I think our laughing stock of a PM being propped up by the deplorable DUP is absolutely wonderful for the Tories
May now looks craven and clueless

speaking of clueless.... David Davis will no doubt follow up his stellar insistence on an early GE with equally successful EU negotiating tactics

It was always going to be tough riding out Brexit with an actual majority, what is it 740 odd treaties to negotiate ???

between piss-up in a brewery Davis and her weak & wobbliness of our mandateless PM its going to be a highly amusing shitshow

Record number of openly gay MPs elected as well- 45!

...aaaand Theresa May has just run into the arms of gay-hating DUP 😯

PM promises to provide "certainty".

GLWT Theresa.

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nicked from twitter

Arlene Foster turning up for negotiations with May.
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May is playing a blinder

Gleaming JY.

careful though , its so bright it literally dulls your memory 😉

The replacement leader candidates are (in order of likelihood)

Boris Johnston
David Davies
Amber Rudd
Andrea Leadsom

For those asking for May's resignation you should bear this in mind

Such a shame IDS is not still a front bencher as he's the only I have any confidence in to become Tory leader.

Such a shame IDS is not still a front bencher as he's the only I have any confidence in to become Tory leader.

He was excellent last time he had a go.

But doesn't that mean the country and the people have to put up with more uncertainty and pain whilst we wait patiently for all this to unravel.

tuskaloosa, it helps if you can maintain a sense of uninvolved detachment and regard politics as entertainment rather than being about policies and principles.

I expect that many Labour MPs - and indeed many voters - who dismissed Corbyn, will now strongly support him because they now believe he is a potential winner. The Conservatives, and May especially, are now on the back foot. The question is whether Corbyn and his front bench can keep them there. Put simply, regardless of his policies, can Corbyn put the boot in at PMQs etc.: does he have the political skills and killer instinct that a PM needs, regardless of their political persuasion? If he does, I suspect even the most Blairite MP will be cheering him on, because winning is what matters. If the Conservatives scent defeat, then they will start to squabble and back bite, which will only make things worse for them.