[Closed] Shock horror, red meat will kill you.....

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I reckon this dude only worried about red meat wrt how much of it he could get.
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onehundredthidiot - Member
To be fair the nice lady on the radio yesterday did say that the research was based on a reply form and not someone measuring the actual amounts people ate through their lives. She also went on to say that people are notoriously bad at filling in these forms (how much do you tell the doc you drink?). If it weren't bad for you I think she'd be taking the findings with a pinch of salt.

So you're saying people underestimated how much red meat they ate on the forms?

Video of doc explaining the report.

Anyone got a link to the article? I hate it when the BBC report a story like this, but don't include a link to the paper.

the article is linked to earlier in this thread certainly the data

its funny how people are happy to accept science that agrees nicely with their world outlook but one that tells them they eat to many Bacon butties and everyone is an armchair nutritionist / statistician

Found it - it is free so why can't the BBC link to it ffs?

http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/archinternmed.2011.2287

(based on impact factors, the journal is pretty highly ranked)

Yeh, these so-called 'experts' are brilliant aren't they

Now it's another day..do you feel a bit silly coming out with that one?....

Nah, don't be daft. I wasn't being much more than 50% serious, if that.

Carry on then, 😀 the research was apparently done with corn fed cattle from the USA rather than grass fed uk cattle anyway....

Funny how when a scientist tells you something like smoking kills - you would nod in violent agreement and look down on those who smoke, yet when they attack your precious red-meat you can just dismiss it out of hand!

Has it been dismissed out of hand? It may have been and I just didn't register those posts, but I haven't seen anyone disputing that eating too much red meat may be bad for you.
There's been a few people complaining that it's an associative rather than causal analysis, but that's somewhat a misunderstanding of the nature of a lot of research. However I do share a great deal of what I hope is healthy scepticism on diet related research. Cholesterol and fat consumption seems to have been a vast cock-up in the past for example.

How much UK cattle is grass fed?

How much UK cattle is grass fed?

38%, although this figure rises substantially if you include dairy cattle.

Allegedly..grass fed beef is lower in saturated fat and tastes a lot better..

I remember the good old days when cows were allowed to munch away to their hearts content on Scrapie riddled sheep spines.

How much UK cattle is grass fed?

But what's the grass fed on?
And is that worse for you than the killer red meat?

And does this make grass-fed beef a vegetable?

But what's the grass fed on?

Cow shit. And here ends your lesson on the circle of life.

[i]Cholesterol and fat consumption seems to have been a vast cock-up in the past for example[/i]

Couldn't agree more, and that particular super-tanker will take a long time to turn around, I'm thinking.

[i]I remember the good old days when cows were allowed to munch away to their hearts content on Scrapie riddled sheep spines. [/i]

Of course, its as nature intended...........
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But what's the grass fed on?

Cow shit..grass is very cannibalistic...

 

I reckon this dude only worried about red meat wrt how much of it he could get.

Is he in 3D?

In other news TV and car ownership causes a 27% increase in heart attacks.
[url] http://freetheanimal.com/2012/03/new-study-driving-watching-red-meat-can-kill-you.html [/url]

What % increase from owning red meat?

[i]In other news TV and car ownership causes a 27% increase in heart attacks.
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Hhmmm. I like your thinking, young man.
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[i]What % increase from owning red meat? [/i]
Is that while driving or watching TV ?.

EDIT:
[i]Is he in 3D? [/i]

Not sure, tell me if you find out.
One thing is for sure though.
He was lean and mean, and all on just plants and animals.
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Life is 100% fatal. Eat what you choose to and tell the interfering nannies to go do one.

Eat what you choose

[i]Eat what you choose
within the rules of any popular [b]low-carb diet[/b] obviously. [/i]

No, no !.

Within the law.....

Err. TSY !.

How long have you been participating in these threads ?.

I'm surpirzed to see you make such a school boy error........

As you should know, its not low carb, tut, tut.

Life is 100% fatal. Eat what you choose to and tell the interfering nannies to go do one.

Fair enough, just so long as you keep your end of the bargain by not complaining about the pain your triple heart by pass is causing you.

As you should know, it's not low carb

That's what they want you to think.

Eat what you choose to and tell the interfering nannies to go do one.

the research was apparently done with corn fed cattle from the USA rather than grass fed uk cattle anyway...

I ate 1970s school dinners and survived, arsenic and broken glass hold no fear for me...

[i]That's what [b]they[/b] want you to think. [/i]

Ah !, I see. Exercise addiction has now made you paranoid also.
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[i]I ate 1970s school dinners[/i]

As did I, as did a lot of us, I suspect.

Yet...

WE ARE STILL HERE !.
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Ah !, I see. Exercise addiction has now made you paranoid also

Nope, that's the drugs.

[i]that's the drugs. [/i]

Which are employed to assist your exercise addiction...
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Ok, ok. Just kidding with ya.

Fair enough, just so long as you keep your end of the bargain by not complaining about the pain your triple heart by pass is causing you

Or even better, refuse the op cos it's your own damn fault and you take responsibility.

I ate 1970s school dinners

As did I, as did a lot of us, I suspect.

Yet...

WE ARE STILL HERE !.

Well that puts you in your 50s so.. not long to go 🙂

[i]Well that puts you in your 50s so.. not long to go[/i]

Cheeky ficker !
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I'll be 43 next June.

And, young whipper snapper.
Don't let my age get in the way of a sprint to the next road sign.....

I'll be waitin for you, there !.
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There's been a few people complaining that it's an associative rather than causal analysis, but that's somewhat a misunderstanding of the nature of a lot of research.

Go on then. How is it misunderstanding the research? As I said in my post above, I'm looking for somebody to enlighten me - based on the media reporting it certainly appears to be a correlation rather than a causation.