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[i]As above, wondering why she chose that particular pic when it's not really representative of how she actually looks.[/i]
She looks professional, approachable, friendly.
Knowing she's a feminist-activist-feminazi-whatever - he was quite clearly winding her up. Which makes her reaction even more amusing really.
And if he was using Linked In like Tinder, then she should have done the same and completely ignored him...
(Still think Matthew Scott needs a kick in the goolies for what he said though)
Gary_MShe looks professional, approachable, friendly.
What? Are you saying she's a whore? A woman you approach for friendly professional transactions. What makes you say she looks approachable? Your penis does. Doesn't it. You want to * her in the . How dare you.
Friendly? I'll bet you want to get "really friendly" don't you? Misogynist.
She looks professional, approachable, friendly.
Who says the camera never lies.
That grass and shrubbery on the other side of the railings could do with a bit of a tidy up. Dreadful photo composition having that small branch intruding top left!
*everyone* picks a photo they think presents them in the way they want to be perceived. It's not like there's hundreds of pictures of people with hangovers, bloodshot eyes and vomit stains down the front of their shirts on there?
as Gary_M says, she's trying to look professional etc not provoke a 'phwoaar' from all who visit the page.
As above, wondering why she chose that particular pic when it's not really representative of how she actually looks.
The same reason every self-important "executive" has done in the history of everything ever. You reckon Steve Jobs rocked up to Time magazine and said "can you make me look really shit please?" for their cover shot?
Linked in is all about professional publicity, and if you're in an important job (or at least, think you are) then you're going to want a professional photograph that makes you look your best. You reckon many barristers turn up to court being "representative of how they actually look" wearing a curry-stained tee-shirt and jeans with a hole in the arse?
It's really, really not a great leap to understand why she chose a flattering photo; it'd be harder to explain why anyone wouldn't. (Mine isn't particularly, it's just a random photo from Facebook, but then I'm not expecting to be approached with hedge fund opportunities in the immediate future.)
And anyway, how do you know her profile photo isn't actually fairly representative of how she looks most of the time, and the less-flattering one just caught her on a bad day? (Not that I can see a vast amount of difference between the two anyway, the first one is better lit and has her smiling rather than looking pissed off is all.)
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Id just been for a lunchtime out-gas and this was top of the feed
WTF is a lunchtime out-gas? What sort of a workplace do you have if you have to schedule fart breaks?
I know some (usually older) guys who make comments like that in a completely innocent manner - not to say it's right in modern times - but I sometimes get complimented on how well I scrub up if i've bothered shaving / put contacts in / am wearing trousers / not stinking the office out in 2 day old cycling gear because there was nothing clean, you get the picture. Should I, invoking equality of the sexes & all that (as it should be), advertise my assailant's comments for the whole country to digest labelling her, rightly or wrongly, a filthy sexist trout who's only interested in my body because i'm obviously a damn hunkasaurus sex?
Also - if she's always being asked out by men on Linkedin - would it not have been more apt to give up transcripts of those obvious advances instead of going intercontinental on an old guy's slightly ambiguous comment (ok, he probably fancied her)?
What a storm in a (probable) B cup..
And anyway, how do you know her profile photo isn't actually fairly representative of how she looks most of the time, and the less-flattering one just caught her on a bad day?
yes we need more photos to make an informed decision. Someone should contact her and ask if she has any.
It's really, really not a great leap to understand why she chose a flattering photo; it'd be harder to explain why anyone wouldn't.
Absolutely, but you'd still want it to be sufficiently accurate that people would recognise you from it?
Hers isn't.
Anyways, it's gone on a bit of a tangent. He shouldn't have sleazed on her to start with. She shouldn't have gone to DEFCON 2.
He shouldn't have sleazed on her to start with. She shouldn't have gone to DEFCON 2.
Common sense has no place in this thread, sling your hook!
[i]Absolutely, but you'd still want it to be sufficiently accurate that people would recognise you from it?
Hers isn't.[/i]
How do you know it isn't?
Cougar sums it up, as well as the fact that it was probably the time of the month making her grumpy. Oh, and her washing machine was broken and waiting in for the engineer had meant she couldn't get the ingredients for her husband's tea.
you'd still want it to be sufficiently accurate that people would recognise you from it?
Hers isn't.
Well, a) it's pretty obviously the same person even to my slightly Aspie brain and b) why would that be important anyway? If you post an unnaturally flattering photo which doesn't look much like you really, WGAF? It's LinkedIn, not a dating site; a flattering photo is the online "networking" equivalent of exaggerating a bit on your CV.
And jesus, if you want to see disproportionately flattering photos, go look on Facebook at the profile of anyone who has more 'selfies' on their page than photos of friends.
as well as the fact that it was probably the time of the month making her grumpy.
You know, rather than the lame-ass apology that the smarmy shit came out with, he should've just replied "rag week is it, love?" I think the Internet would have *actually* broken.
a) it's pretty obviously the same person even to my slightly Aspie brain
Well mine must be even more dodgy. It's only the hairdo that looks similar to me.
And jesus, if you want to see disproportionately flattering photos, go look on Facebook
Or tinder? 😀
Linked in is all about professional publicity, and if you're in an important job (or at least, think you are) then you're going to want a professional photograph that makes you look your best. You reckon many barristers turn up to court being "representative of how they actually look" wearing a curry-stained tee-shirt and jeans with a hole in the arse?
Well, I stole a photo from Scotroutes blog. Christ knows what that says about me....
*worth pointing out it was actually me in the photo. And somehow it even manages to be relevant to my job.
Hmmm, must check to see what mums net says about this
[i]Well mine must be even more dodgy. It's only the hairdo that looks similar to me.[/i]
Various shots of her on google looking like the linkedin pic and not so like the linkedin pic. But all look broadly similar.
[url= http://http://yourbarristerboyfriend.tumblr.com/ ]Meanwhile, in the ruthlessly sexist world of the bar...[/url]
This blog is a minor obsession for a proportion of my barrister friends (half of whom also use grindr)
for someone who didn't want to be judged by the way she looked there's an awful lot of discussion about the way she looks.
I can't see why she did this. There's no real 'win' for her, only professional embarrassment at being in the tabloids and the possibility of some past indiscretion being dug up and aired in public.
Call him out fair enough but Twitter? Daft.
wwaswas - Memberfor someone who didn't want to be judged by the way she looked there's an awful lot of discussion about the way she looks.
I can't see why she did this. There's no real 'win' for her
Yesterday, none of us had ever heard of her. Today she's the most famous human rights feminazi lawyer in the UK. Even if people forget her name in six months or a year they'll still be able to google "linked in sexist lawyer" and her name will come up top. She'll be the go to lawyer for every frumpy, frigid closet lesbian in the country who wants to get rich quick because their boss's gaze lingered on them for a nano second too long as they bent over to pick up some staples #justjoking.
Either that or she'll be "I'm a Celebrity get me out of Here" eating kangaroo balls and crocodile dicks.
Well, it's certainly raised her professional profile. I'm sure that the folk who run law firms and may or may not be looking to employ her in future will take note of how she handles her interactions with others.
Stupid old bastard deserved an email slap-down, but a twitter and national press hammering, even after he'd apologised, might be stretching it a bit.
Presumably she wants him sacked, a la Tim Hunt.
thisisnotaspoon have a think if it's something you would be comfortable typing in a message to a woman half your age. Surely at some point whilst typing the 'not politically correct' bit he must have thought 'oh hang on this sounds a bit off', maybe just keep it professional.My thoughts are he was waiting for a reaction and I don't think he got the one he was hoping for.
Entirely, but she's gone down the pot calling the kettle black route with the insinuation that it would be better if he'd been half his age.
Looking at it the other way, she'd be even more annoyed if she'd been his age and he'd told her to do one because she didn't look good.
Whether you like it or not, looking good is an advantage. By picking a photo that makes you look good you're admitting this fact. Same way the managers here get their photo done professionally, everyone else get's them done on the webcam in the security office.
What he's done is stupidly mentioned the elephant in the room.
even after he'd apologised,
Sorry, I missed that. Where has he apologised?
Presumably she wants him sacked, a la Tim Hunt.
I can only assume that's the case given that she's complained to his company (who claim that they have apologised and that's the end of it, run along now dear) and the Regulatory Authority.
[i]the insinuation that it would be better if he'd been half his age.[/i]
Not sure how you get that from this
[i]"Think twice before sending another woman [half your age] such a sexist message."[/i]
s'only banter innit.
"Linked in is all about professional publicity, and if you're in an important job (or at least, think you are) then you're going to want a professional photograph that makes you look your best. You reckon many barristers turn up to court being "representative of how they actually look" wearing a curry-stained tee-shirt and jeans with a hole in the arse?"
Have you seen me in court hole in tunic shirt collar and tabs used all week cufflink used as collar stud.
In a profession that values judgement he has exposed himself to being made to look a dick.
In a profession aiming for inclusivity he has been sexist.
In a profession that values confidence and discretion she has publicised private correspondence .
in a profession that values technical precision she referenced the wrong legislation in her subsequent tweets.
In a profession that values integrity she was ageist when complaining of his sexism . Ageism is contrary to the same act that now deals with sexism.
Neither come out of this smelling of roses .
Her work when she is not on sabbatical is pretty niche and will no doubt not suffer from this.
Sorry, I missed that. Where has he apologised?
She said he had contacted her privately to apologise:
She said Mr Carter-Silk had since apologised in an email which said: "I sincerely regret my remarks have offended you and I offer you my apologies".
I suppose once she committed herself to the twitterstorm, accepting it and moving on would have made her a traitor to the cause.
Is she on tinder?
Secondly I wonder how many people have sent her a message saying "cor your fit" on LinkedIn.
I just can't get over a porcupine needing a lawyer.
I just can't get over a porcupine needing a lawyer.
It was a prickly situation.
Learn to take a compliment, sugar tits
🙂
[i]I wonder how many people have sent her a message saying "cor your fit"[/i]
They'll be rejected straight away for their failure at basic grammar.
Not sure how you get that from this
If it's not relevant, why mention it.
The message was sexist (was it? Misogynistic yes, but I'd infer that it was if anything positive sexist discrimination), but there's an inference in her response as it says [i]"think twice before sending another woman half your age such a sexist message."[/i] not [i]"think twice before sending another woman such a sexist message."[/i].
Reductio ad absurdum; she's being sexist by including the word woman, would it be ok if he was sending blokes similar messages?
Suggesting he's a 'dirty old man' would be my guess.
Was she wearing sensible shoes?
@ crankboy - are there any guidelines laid down by the Law Society (?) as to what form a photo on Linkedin should take? For example colour or black and white, full face, close up, styled or a natural look, smile or not, professional photographer.
Also does it need approval from an employer?
she reminds me of people on here looking for something to get angry about
How dare you tarnish the rest of us STW's 👿
cinnamon_girl "are there any guidelines laid down by the Law Society "not that I am aware of but general rule not to bring the profession into disrepute . There was some media guidance rather than guidelines which from memory boiled down to don't wear pinstripes it makes you look like a spiv.
I imagine the sort of employers that value linked in would specify the sort of portrait you could display and have a firm word or policy for the blatantly inappropriate.
I am on linked in and linked to loads of random lawyers my firm has no interest in my linked in profile or connections and I have no idea of any "value" in being on it.(I joined as I needed to contact a colleague who had moved to the commercial world to pass on bad news and had no other means of contact )
Thanks crankboy, that's helpful. Chuckled at pinstripes though. 🙂
I am on linked in and linked to loads of random lawyers my firm has no interest in my linked in profile or connections and I have no idea of any "value" in being on it.
I think it's for people who like to "network" instead of "talk to someone." I don't really get it either. I've a bunch of connections who are co-workers or former co-workers, a few who are friends in the same line of work as me, and that's about it.
I keep getting random requests from people I've never heard of, people who I know but who probably think it's another Facebook ("how do you know this person?" - um, shagged her once?), and generally people who I have no working relationship with beyond sharing the same office space occasionally. I've broadly ignored all these, whether that's the 'right' way of doing LI I've no idea, probably a topic for a separate thread.
About the only use I've found for it is the Social Connector plugin for Outlook, which scrapes LI for profile pictures and so puts faces to names of external contacts I've never actually met. Maybe I should email a few of them to tell them their profile picture is stunning, what could possibly go wrong?
[url= http://www.legalcheek.com/2015/09/boss-of-top-legal-aid-firm-vows-to-never-instruct-linkedin-message-barrister-charlotte-proudman-again/ ]Other lawyers are also being silly about this - let me introduce Franklin Sinclair....[/url]