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is anyone else naked right now?


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 5:45 pm
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would YOU use that phrase on STW cougar?

You perhaps misunderstand me; I wasn't trying to defend it, I was trying to explain how maybe it's innocent to some and deeply offensive to others.

Would I say it? Dunno. Before this thread, probably, my view of comedy is that either anything goes or nothing does, as soon as you start cherry-picking you enter a hypocrisy minefield. I'm rarely (seriously) offended. Now that I know it's upsetting people however, I'd probably avoid it out of courtesy.

Assuming that's what the problem was, anyway. If it was general misogyny then I'd like to think I'm on safe ground to start with.


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 5:45 pm
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Bloody penis envy..


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 5:47 pm
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The Hoff is freaking me out. ๐Ÿ™


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 5:48 pm
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SELECT *
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WHERE someone gives a shit

The answer was 0


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 5:49 pm
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Best Troll ever!

..bit of a back door troll though.

anyway, the important stuff

camo16 - [b]Member[/b]

What's happened to camo's legendary BigHitter status?


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 5:50 pm
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Well said. If you don't like the way this forum is, leave

Nonsense. The forum doesn't have a "way", but it sometimes gets hijacked by a few impolite bigmouths who ruin it for everyone else.


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 5:50 pm
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Will this do?
wooaaahh !
I don't want to sleep with him (/her)

(was more Mr Spock I was thinking of, rather then the hoff)


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 5:52 pm
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The forum doesn't have a "way", but it sometimes gets hijacked by a few impolite bigmouths who ruin it for everyone else.

then that's the 'way' of the forum aint it ?


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 5:53 pm
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Sue and Emsz -sorry to hear you two are going, but, if you read this, I really think you should reconsider. Seriously, don't back down to the sexist idiots. Is it really better to walk away rather than stay somewhere where, overall, you are both respected and liked?

^ This. Don't let them win!

I have to say, I am *loving* the way some are saying the sexism is of course our fault, cos we asked for it, and should just keep quiet and get on with it. How apt.

Yeah. I geniunely thought that STW wasn't that bad, but blimey, this thread has dragged some idiots from out of the woodwork. :s It's a bit like when you turn over a brick in the garden and there's loads of earwigs and woodlice underneath it. *shudder*


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 5:53 pm
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SELECT *
FROM [Sexism on STW (a goodbye and some thanks )]
WHERE someone gives a shit

The answer was 0

I think that should be

SELECT COUNT(*)
FROM [Sexism on STW (a goodbye and some thanks )]
WHERE someone gives a shit

for the answer to be 0

The other one will just give you a return code of +100


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 5:54 pm
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philconsequence - Member

no elf on this thread yet?

He's been lurking here plenty

probably far too busy doing "blokes work" with all those "blokes" he works with, he was telling me all about it last night. 8)


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 5:55 pm
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(was more Mr Spock I was thinking of, rather then the hoff)

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Posted : 03/11/2011 5:56 pm
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The other one will just give you a return code of +100

Hhahahaahahahaha - awesome!


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 5:58 pm
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I hope this is a wake up call to STW towers.

doubtful, but the 'report post' function might be. it's what it's there for, why don't you use it if you're that bothered? what's the alternative? do you expect the mods to trawl through every post on here and build a profile up of every user?


 
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Nonsense. The forum doesn't have a "way", but it sometimes gets hijacked by a few impolite bigmouths who ruin it for everyone else.

That's for the mods to decide, not you. Those of us that aren't mods are all equal. If the sexism has only been a few bigmouths, then there's no reason to go (or moan about it) is there?


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 5:59 pm
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I hope I am not the culprit as I only advocate maggots reduction and occassional views on celebrities turds. Apart from that I only offer simple solutions ... nuke!

IMO everyone has been rather well behaved. Yes, you do get a few comments here and there on women but they got the mods to deal with if they go too far, so I just hope diverse views are not seen as an attack on certain people.

Participating in a forum is like a balancing act. You switch off the moment you get bore ...

Oh ya ... TJ, Elf etc are funny lots ... ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:01 pm
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Del - I do report on occasion.

What I meant was I hoped that the mods will clamp down again on sexism on here as it has caused some of the female posters to leave and others to greatly scale back their posting- a situation which I believe is to the detriment of the forum.


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:01 pm
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just read all this thread (was bored), but i have to agree with the ladies on here.
all the offensive sexual stuff is not needed. a lot of female stw'rs do not come on the forum anymore, and i reckon the sexism is a big part of the reason why.

we all spout a fair bit of shyte on here from time to time, but somethings are uncalled for, what i would like to know is, would the offenders talk in the same manner to or in front of their wives/girlfriends?

i reckon not if they are honest with themselves.


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:01 pm
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ton they probably don't have wives or girlfriends. ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:03 pm
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What a shame, two of the most pleasant posters gone.

I've challenged a few offensive posts of the 'Look at this woman, isn't she ugly?' type in the past.

I find that telling people how to find an image of the partner of the idiot involved, then inviting everyone to compare and contrast usually does the trick.
Amazing what you can find on Google Images.

It's not difficult:
If you wouldn't like it said about your mother, sister, daughter or partner, don't say it about anyone else.


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:03 pm
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would the offenders talk in the same manner to or in front of their wives/girlfriends?

Do you ever objectify your partner?


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:03 pm
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LOLs at the barefaced irony of "flange" and "wrecker" complaining about the length of this thread then suggesting that if people don't like what they read they should go elsewhere. ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:06 pm
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I think the chat forum needs heavier modding, definitely. An maybe a league table to make all the points-scoring worthwhile.


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:07 pm
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I've challenged a few offensive posts of the 'Look at this woman, isn't she ugly?' type in the past....
If you wouldn't like it said about your mother, sister, daughter or partner, don't say it about anyone else.

Well that would make for very dull reading.

Most women I know are FAR FAR bitchier than men about other people's behaviour and appearance. I don't see many gossip mags aimed at men for example.


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:08 pm
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That's for the mods to decide, not you. Those of us that aren't mods are all equal. If the sexism has only been a few bigmouths, then there's no reason to go (or moan about it) is there?

It's a simple matter of politeness. If the few who insist on being impolite carry on, despite having been asked to stop, then the rest of us have every reason to go on about it.


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:08 pm
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what i would like to know is, would the offenders talk in the same manner to or in front of their wives/girlfriends?

are you joking ? i say things to my wife that i wouldn't dare say on a public forum.

anyway, i think we've all learnt a valuable lesson

today someone was merely offended, tomorrow it could be childs face


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:13 pm
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TYS.............no mate i dont, why?


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:14 pm
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Has anyone cross-referenced this story?

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-15574333 ]Racist tweet story[/url]

Worth thinking about before you post racist/sexist/defamatory material.

May not apply, may come to nothing of course.


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:15 pm
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i say things to my wife that i wouldn't dare say on a public forum.

If your wife asked you to stop saying those things because she found them offensive, what would you do?


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:15 pm
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If your wife asked you to stop saying those things because she found them offensive, what would you do?

Get her to report me to the mods if it bothered her that much.


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:16 pm
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A long-term and respected contributor to this forum who is female has described the posters of sexist comments as being like earwigs and woodlice that live under bricks.

Are they REALLY unable to understand why that might be, or are they suffering from some sort of developmental problem?


 
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possibly the inability to grow a skeleton on the inside...obviously ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:18 pm
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If your wife asked you to stop saying those things because she found them offensive, what would you do?

ask her where the woman that i'd married had gone ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:18 pm
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ton - so you never say she looks sexy? Has a cracking bum? A beautiful smile...

The thread that prompted Sue's post today started to go this way. Would you say it to your Wife/GF etc...

To which I replied similarly to how trailmonkey did... what happened after that I've no idea, I went to bed.


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:20 pm
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TSY, to her, of course i do, but to be offensive never.


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:24 pm
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TSY, to her, of course i do, but to be offensive never.

Excatly - it's about context. You know your wife wouldn't be offended by those comments. Not the same thing as juvenile references to anal intercourse on a public forum.


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:26 pm
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Excatly - it's about context. You know your wife wouldn't be offended by those comments. Not the same thing as juvenile references to anal intercourse on a public forum.

right, so the analogy of not saying on here what you wouldn't say to your wife doesn't stack up then.

glad we all got round to agreeing in the end.


 
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Excatly - it's about context

So, playing devils advocate a bit, in a thread about appreciating whoever that athlete was (Ennis?*) would you not expect comments about her physical appearance as well as her sporting ability?

*(To confirm my Guardian reading, position on the political compass as being between Gandhi and Mandella) I didn't even open it.


 
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position on the political compass as being between Gandhi and Mandella

does that mean you'll take part in armed struggle but only if you're sitting down peacefully at the time ?


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:35 pm
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we all spout a fair bit of shyte on here from time to time, but somethings are uncalled for, what i would like to know is, would the offenders talk in the same manner to or in front of their wives/girlfriends?

Ton. imo that is what is wrong nowadays lots of young ones do ๐Ÿ™„ Those of us in middle age would never have dared speak to women the way the 20-30 some-things do nowadays โ—
imo again and recently in the press and on some tv progs the influence of music videos and the lyrics/scantily clad women are having an effect on the way men look at/treat women. eg why did Rhiana need to run through a field in Ireland half naked โ“
Like some others I to have reduced the amount of time spent on here and posting and have been here since the Go-Far days so can confirm it has descended into something unrecognisable from then โ—


 
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So, playing devils advocate a bit, in a thread about appreciating whoever that athlete was (Ennis?*) would you not expect comments about her physical appearance as well as her sporting ability?

"She's very good looking" is a widely-shared opinion.
"I would" is irrelevant ego-massaging, because she wouldn't.
"I'd bang her back doors in" is plain-nasty misogyny.

In any case, plenty of people have made it quite clear that they have found some comments to be unacceptable, so why carry on making them?


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:38 pm
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I think it used be referred to as having good manners.

I really hope it makes a comeback.


 
Posted : 03/11/2011 6:41 pm
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7 pages WoW!!!

Sexist remarks have no place and are clearly against forum rules - in both ways (loose women note)

We should be sensitive to others - sex isn't the only issue that causes upset - think before we post, because most of us overstep the mark occasionally

Shame that people feel alienated/upset enough to leave - far better to simply ignore. There will always be inflammatory comments on an open thread

Don't lose a sense of humour (where appropriate) though! We should all be able to laugh at ourselves!!


 
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I'm ssssssoooooooooooooo looking forward to tomorrow's A + A thread!


 
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