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[Closed] Selling home-made electrical stuff on facebook - is that ok?

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After a quick search it would seem other lamps state that they conform to 3 EU directives, the low voltage, RoSH and EMC.
In addition, there are other requirements you would need to comply with, such as providing a user guide (containing safety info) and a technical construction file.
The above is for CE marking. This is in the process of changing in the UK to UKCA, but this year is a bit of a transition, but should be the same next year, with a few name changes.
The low voltage directive will point you in the direction of which standards you need to comply with, which will give you the details on wiring, safety etc.
Sorry if all this is a pain, but it's why things are now a bit safer.


 
Posted : 21/02/2021 10:08 am
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he hasnt got insurance, this is why im asking really, he wants to do the right thing.. wants to ensure hes covering safety and whether he needs insurance.

Bit surprised everyone's fixated on just the wiring and ignoring this bit. The answer's yes. That's the same whether the goods and services being offered for sale are shonky electricals or fully certified safe things, but in the latter case cover will a lot easier to get.

When he tries to get cover selling homemade electrical goods made by someone with no qualifications I suspect the other acceptability questions will answer themselves.


 
Posted : 21/02/2021 10:25 am
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While we might all mock the Elvis Dambusters Tutenkhamun memorial clock, were you aware that stuff like that is an actual thing?

Does it play the Dambuster’s theme on the hour and fire out mini bouncing bombs every morning? Otherwise I’m out 🤣


 
Posted : 21/02/2021 10:28 am
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As for the bits of it being 'Double Insulated', then, I'm presuming you mean the lampholder. The rest of it isnt double insulated, unless you have non conducting sleeving from where the cable enters and joins to the lampholder. Cables cannot be 'double insulated', there is no such thing available. There is reinforced and double sheathed cable, but it is not, and cannot, be described as double insulated.
As for PAT 'testing', then yes, it should be done, as each one will fail. There will be no makers details showing it is double insulated, so it will therefore be a Class 1 item, so will need to be earthed. Without an earth cable, it is an instant fail.


 
Posted : 21/02/2021 12:48 pm
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I'd be careful if he's selling these as a business for profit. The lamps could be classed as a Decorative Desk Lamp for a Home Office for example, then they could be deemed to be work equipment.

Then Section 6 of The Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974 applies:

Manufacturers’, Suppliers’ and Designers’ Duties

Manufacturers, suppliers, importers and designers must ensure that any articles or substances provided for use at work are safe and without risks to health, as outlined in s.6. This includes:

testing
research
examination of the products
providing relevant safety information including revisions
when the product is intended for use at work.

There is case law around this after a company supply children's play beds were prosecuted for selling furniture with an unsafe design. They were prosecuted under Section 3 (1) HSAWA1974 - It shall be the duty of every employer to conduct his undertaking in such a way as to ensure, so far as is reasonably practicable, that persons not in his employment who may be affected thereby are not thereby exposed to risks to their health or safety. Section 6 was also cited as the beds didn't meet safety standards for the sizes of openings and a child got their head stuck and was aspixhiated.

https://northyorkshire.police.uk/news/playtime-beds-boss-sent-to-prison-for-more-than-three-years/


 
Posted : 21/02/2021 3:03 pm
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