(...well one of the reasons anyway)
[i]"Ah look a nice handy little snackpot of cashew nuts in the Health Food aisle.
That'll make a nice healthier alternative to visiting the vending machine for a mid-morning snack. The nutritional info says it's not great for fat, but I'm sure it's "good fat" and it's only 146kcal."[/i]
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Yay for informed choice and reading the label.
But...
Oh.. what's this? [i]"A typical 25g serving contains"[/i]
Eh? But this is a 60g pot? So a "[i]typical serving"[/i] is five-twelfths of a pot? Who eats five-twelfths of a pot? That doesn't sound very [i]typical[/i] to me.
And why does the pot contain two and one-sixth servings? Are you supposed to buy six pots at a time to get whole servings?
I don't think cashew nuts are responsible for the obesity epidemic 🙂
Fat doesn't make you fat.
People are fat because they have no self control.
I agree it's stupid but for the opposite reason.
When I'm trying to figure out how much fuel I can pack in I don't want to know how many kcals are in 4/7th of the packet, I want to know how much energy I get when I pour the lot down my neck. Don't make me do maths when I'm starving!
Fat doesn't make you fat.
This.^
I don't think cashew nuts are responsible for the obesity epidemic
True, but you get the same misleading labelling on loads of foods.
Fat doesn't make you fat.
Indeed, but the calories do (IMO).
So prominently labelling something as containing 146kcal per serving, when in reality most people would eat the whole 350kcal pot is deliberately misleading.
(Especially as many of the population would struggle to read the small text and many others would find it tricky to calculate 60/100 * 583 in their head).
I will see your nuts and raise you a
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It's definitely stupid (and misleading) to package something in a small (apparently) 1 portion box then say that a typical portion is only about 40% of the already small packet. At least they're not sugar coated.
Fat doesn't make you fat.
Also, this is spot on.
Agree that's pointless. It's obviously a single-serving container (and would last about 5 seconds with me!)Eh? But this is a 60g pot? So a "typical serving" is five-twelfths of a pot? Who eats five-twelfths of a pot? That doesn't sound very typical to me.
I'm assuming it's some kind of government "healthy eating" BS that encourages them to state that a serving of nuts should be 25g.
Jury is (potentially) out with nuts though (as in does the body actually absorb the full amount of calories or not) so that could potentially be misleading. I'm getting through lots of nuts/seeds at the moment so will see which way my weight goes!Indeed, but the calories do (IMO).
Label vs portion size is indeed crap but I'm tempted to think that nuts pose little danger to fat people unless they're in a chocolate bar or a cake.
Sadly, fatty unhealthy food is tasty and cheap.
Trans-fats in processed food make you fat, as the body cannot do anything with them. I lost 3 stone last year by removing all hydrogenated fats from my diet. I used real butter, full fat milk and didn't take much notice of fat content, beyond any hydrogenated fats.
People are fat because they eat flora instead of butter, because they choose lower cholesterol (not really a very big issue unless you are over 50) and un-saturated (trans) fats over natural ingredients and healthy fats.
Sorry, bit of a rant and I do agree with the silly labelling in this case, but I am far more troubled by companies selling people food that is very bad for them (or at best has no benefit) on the promise that it is good for them...
Rant over...
the world nut standard portion (KP nuts from a piece of wall mounted cardboard in a pub) is 50g, so Tesco/the government is talking utter BS, however tesco are giving you 10g over and above that standard, so not entirely bad on their partOh.. what's this? "A typical 25g serving contains"
Fat doesn't [b]necessarily[/b] make you fat.
FTFY
People are fat because they eat flora instead of butter
People are fat for loads of reasons, trying to pin it on one thing, even for a specific person, is foolish and leads to loads of confusion.
Lots of things we do (or don't do) contribute to our weight, as well as our physiological profile.
And being thin doesn't automatcally make you right.
Fat people are great, I always like seeing a big fat porker, especially one eating chips, maybe smoking a fag and drinking some full fat coke. 8)
Portion size is a problem.
I started bringing in a small pot of nuts (well, nuts and raisins to be precise) to eat at work, as I thought they might fill me up better than some of the other stuff I was bringing in. I am buying a big bag and filling my own pot daily.
But, I have noticed that the pot seems to be getting fuller and fuller as the days go on, so I measured it out today and what started out at around 25-30g has probably grown to over twice that - I stopped pouring when I got to 30g and it was at least half what I have been putting in. I think the packet said 130 cals/25g so I was eating well over that as an afternoon snack....hmmmm.
And being thin doesn't automatcally make you right.
Being thin doesn't automatically mean you eat well either.
Eating like a twot makes you fat
Wouldn't it be simpler if the label just told you how many calories were in the whole container and left the portion size up to you?
I suspect most people struggle to divide and multiply decimals in their head whilst they are busy shopping.
It seems to me that you can just reverse-calculate your calories per portion, depending on what you want the label to say. Want your food to be perceived as healthy? Just fiddle the portion size.
Fat doesn't make you fat.
^ +1
Exactly how much of the calories in cashew nuts can the body break down?
Look at it from Tesco's point of view. If they put the calories and fat for the whole pack on the front, no-one would buy them, as they would be "unhealthy". If they only put 25g in the pack, no-one would buy them, as they want more than 5 nuts per pack. So, the happy medium is to put out a decent size pack, but put information for a small serving on the pack. I think Tesco's would call this giving the people what they want (or not giving them what they don't want).
Not saying I agree with this, but I can see how this silliness has come about...
I think that's the point, a per 100g is still useful for comparison (especially for "extra free" or jumbo packs) but a per pot/tub/box is much more sensible and easier than some variable portion size.It seems to me that you can just reverse-calculate your calories per portion, depending on what you want the label to say
This is why I'm fat. Could you resist that chubby, hearty welcoming smile? those bingo wings? The beckoning beigeness of the sausagey, pastry-encased goodness? No. Me neither!
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this is way down the list of reasons why people are fat.
people trivializing fatness is higher up the list (ref. binner's stock post)
Pigface - Member
I will see your nuts
#childishhumour
To their credit at least Greggs honestly tell you how many calories are in a whole Steak Bake ([url= https://www.greggs.co.uk/assets/Nutritional-Guide-2014.pdf ]403kcal[/url]) instead of pretending that people [i]typically[/i] only eat two-fifths of it.
Politically and morally tricky but someone needs to make the case for the economic impact of obesity & diabetes:
Reduces energy levels and likely therefore productivity
Increases absence and therefore productivity
Increases cost of running NHS and therefore increases taxes or reduces government investment elsewhere.
As a thin person who watches his diet like a hawk and does loads of exercise I do have some sympathy for people who are overweight/obese as it seems like a constant battle against social norms, employers' lack of concern/paying you to sit all day instead of stand and move, and against the food industry and the way unhealthy food is marketed.
If I wasn't so stubborn I suspect I'd be overweight too - it really does take a massive focus to be healthy given current options, choices and expected behaviours.
Big question for me is: how come UK is in such a shocking state but other Western European countries are not? I don't think the UK is significantly less disciplined or lazier than France, Germany, Sweden etc.
I think it's too late to properly get on top of obesity and suspect the economic impact is going to be more significant than many people expect...
Yeah... but fat people are jolly. And jolly people put everyone in a good mood, with their portly good-natured appearance, and bubbly personalities. And they always bring cakes into work, cheering everyone up.
That probably offsets all the negatives, when you think about it
- it really does take a massive focus to be healthy given current options, choices and expected behaviours.
It really doesn't. All it takes is a little more time preparing fresh food instead of buying processed food which is packed with sugar and salt. Not snacking on shite all day long and a little bit of exercise goes a long way too.
I cycle and am generally healthy but put no effort into it at all other than just avoiding the obvious pre-packaged sugar/carb/fat food and drink.
[i]Increases cost of running NHS[/i]
[url] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-28779493 [/url]
Edit:
And that's ^^ just for cancer... No mention of stroke and CVD.
The cost of diabetes in the NHS is colossal and a lot is caused by preventable type-2 diabetes.
[url= http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/12/nhs-diabetes-drugs-800m-obesity-sugar-vat ]Grauniad t'other day[/url]
I reckon the nanny state *should* step in. Subsidies, if any, should be given to healthier options. Until, of course, lobbying to corrupt politicians denotes a large bag of chips to be one of your 'five a day'.
the U.K. will keep on getting fatter all the time people are happy with this kind of lifestyle and see no reason to change
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Off at a slight tangent.
My daughter is type one diabetic so we are have to check the carbohydrate content of everything she eats. The whole “One 25g portion contains…” stuff on a 60g pack bursts my hump, boils my wee, ignites my poo etc… Just tell me how much is in the pack if it is of an amount that is clearly intended to be eaten in one go!
While I’m on… what is the point of telling me the carb content of the dry weight of something that is to be cooked in water?
Nah, this is why people are fat.....
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remote control? While it'd help I don't think getting up to swap the channel would solve the obesity epidemic
<edit> didn't think it needed it but have a 😉 just in case
How can they get up they are barefoot?
they mean lack of shoes leads to us all being less mobile
Fat doesn't make you fat.
I hear you now who do i blame for my weight?
genetics?
Supermarkets?
Society?
Thatcher ?
I suspect most people struggle to divide and multiply decimals in their head whilst they are busy shopping.
Well played as the fat people are too stupid to work out you called them stupid 😉
I love the muppets that type "fat doesn't make you fat". I think that is common knowledge.
More fat than than you can use does.
fat doesn't make you fat
True, you have to eat it first...
fin25 - Member
Trans-fats in processed food make you fat, as the body cannot do anything with them. I lost 3 stone last year by removing all hydrogenated fats from my diet. I used real butter, full fat milk and didn't take much notice of fat content, beyond any hydrogenated fats.
Can you explain what I see as a contradiction in your post? If 'the body' cannot do anything with Trans-fats, how can cutting them out cause you to lose weight? Unless you've lost other fats and the trans-fat remains, never to be shifted? In that case you'd get cumulatively fatter as you age by having trans-fats in your diet.
Nice one losing the weight though, regardless!
I have seen the full fat milk, butter etc. advocated by some body builder, fitness types. I'm sure it was on social media in response to an NHS website saying eat low-fat yoghurts, semi-skimmed milk etc. They were stating this was fundamentally wrong
More fat than than you can use does.
Your body absorbing more calories than you use does.
and at 9 calories in 1g of fat its easy to absorb more calories than you need from fat.
