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And how do you explain that to an unmanned camera then?
You may have treated it like a car for 6yrs and had incidents where you got away with it but if you drive that vehicle, registered as a LGV at 70mph on an A road through an unmanned camera then you will be done for doing 20mph over the limit, not 10mph.
The reason most people get away with it (I drove a similar vehicle for 5yrs and never got done either) is because they sit at 60mph and it doesn't set off the unmanned cameras. I get about half a dozen calls a year from people doing exactly that and complaining.
I almost bought a dashcam after being nearly being smudged out by a large lorry on the M60 through 50 average cams. It seems the cams didnt apply to him- so he came up behind me- flashed his lights on full beam, then swiftly undertook and then moved hard right broadsiding me- then he repeated the same move at least three more times ahead.
Either Godzilla was behind us or average cameras dont work on trucks.
Luckily I'm not easily spooked behind the wheel of a car- I just played it abit BTCC.
Why would i go past a speed camera at over the car limit anyway ? Thats just darwinism at work. If you et caught speeding by a static cam in the uk you deserve everything you get. They aint exactly hidden
Surely the a9 average speeds cameras would pick up via plate recognition im an lgv and bill me accordingly for hoverig around the 70 mark on my gps so an indicated 78 - but just flowing with the traffic so i assume my speedos the one thats out seeing as its french.
Ive done the journey and few times and never been pinged.
Maybe you should email the scottish polce service and let them know.
Satellite imagery.
In the UK 😆
As always a STW talks in personal experience and if it fits then that's the law.
[i]Surely the a9 average speeds cameras would pick up via plate recognition im an lgv and bill me accordingly for hoverig around the 70 mark on my gps so an indicated 78 - but just flowing with the traffic so i assume my speedos the one thats out seeing as its french[/i]
Look, if your vehicle is registered as a LGV then it is subject to LGV speed restrictions. I don't give a flying flip what circumstance you got away with things. Maybe the cameras weren't working. Maybe they had run out of film. Maybe they decided to let you off. I don't really care. I don't drive at all times to the speed limits but amazingly I have a clean licence.
Fact is a vehicle registered as a LGV is subject to the 50/60/70 limits.
yes i missed out the question mark but it doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out its a question rather than a statement of fact.
Do the average speed cameras not see your an LGV by plate recognition ???????? (its a question - i dont really want a speeding ticket next time i do the journey.)
I don't know what the average speed cameras use to take your speed. But then average speed cameras are a temporary average speed for all vehicles. That's not really the point. If a car was exceeding that speed they would also get the fine etc. The point is an LGV has a speed limit of 50/60/70 unless the points I raised are in force.
Getting away with it, mistakes and sheer luck don't really come into it. When the question is asked, what speed limit is my vehicle capabale of, look at the V5, check how it is registered and there is your answer
ill check it when i go home , google foo says you would have to be unlucky to have an older sub 2000gvw blingo that isnt a car derived van as most manufacturers were belting them out on car derived log books - but to add further to the mix - folks with CDV on their log books HAVE been getting tickets for van speed limits....
I know we like to go off on tangents (I'm as guilty as anybody), but can I just point out that all this talk about van/car speed limits is totally irrelevant to the situation in the video.
hora - MemberI almost bought a dashcam after being nearly being smudged out by a large lorry on the M60 through 50 average cams. It seems the cams didnt apply to him- so he came up behind me- flashed his lights on full beam, then swiftly undertook and then moved hard right broadsiding me- then he repeated the same move at least three more times ahead.
So there was an empty lane to your left with a gap large enough for a lorry to pass you? 🙄
The question is why didn't the driver in the vid use his chaingun or missile pods that every car come (should) come armed with? 8)
Apologies for going OT but something needs correcting:-
Littlesthobo
I suggest you research "Dual Purpose Vehicle". A lot of what you describe (vans with seats) CAN have car speed limits.
And as it is a legal requirement that your V5 accurately reflects the build of the vehicle, it should be updated as such if those changes are made.
Things like number of seats can be changed but I don't beleive the vehicle category can be changed as it's related to the type approval. So an N1 'van' will always be N1 and can't be changed to an M1 passenger vehicle.
I am going to check some V5's
So there was an empty lane to your left with a gap large enough for a lorry to pass you?
Yup- two things
It was just before where two motorways merge onto the M60 in the form of double lanes at speed. Therefore if you can you move over (no legal requirement I agree).
Secondly- in average roadworks designed to protect workers I will not rigidly move to the left fullstop. If someone is in a rush I'd love to let them through and get their points but I'm not going to throw myself out of the way.
Still Checking
I have just checked a V5 for you.
A Vauxhall Corsa Van (11 plate)
D.5 Body Type - Car Derived Van
Taxation Class - Light Goods Vehicle
This vehicle will have the car speed limits.
I am going to have a look at the class's listed on my 2014 Vito Dualiner and report back
5 seater factory fresh Vito Dualiner 2014
D.5 Body Type - Panel Van
Taxation Class - LGV
Has anyone got a vehicle registered as a Dual Purpose vehicle with the taxation class of LGV?
For comparison my T5 factory kombi is...
D.5 Body Type = Van/Side Windows
Taxation class = Diesel Car (yes I get hit with C02 emissions based VED)
J Vehicle Category = M1
Thanks Mark. So you can do car speeds etc as the vehicle is registered as a diesel car.
Actually been looking at the gov.uk site but I am bored now. Unless you have anything that states Car Derived then my advice stands. PLG - Car, LGV - Van
I think vehicle category and taxation class are the key points.
I think that all M1 will be PLG and C02 based (post 2001), N1 will be LVG.
My only problem is getting the jobsworths at the local council tip, sorry waste recycling facility, to agree it's a car 😡
I had a look Both my partner van and berlingo multispace have car derived van under body type and the vans has taxation class as LGV the berlingos a multispace and is PLG for tax.
So the facts are still as clear as mud on that one. Your bigger vans fair enough they are all over the 2000gvw limit anyway.
Any of the van speed stuff apply to pick up trucks?
Specifically Nissan Navarro?
ope your good with em , they are dual purpose vehicles with clearly defined load space and passenger compartment.