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[Closed] Sebastian Buemi is a lucky boy...

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[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8624282.stm ]Mildly frightening thing to happen @ 200mph...[/url]


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 7:45 am
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Thats amazing its like his wheels were ejected at speed, proper scary good job it was an F1 car on a track.


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 8:00 am
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strut failure by the looks of it, wheel ended up over the barrier where the crowd were too, i wouldn't want to be the one washing his race overalls after that!


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 8:08 am
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I'm wondering if the team might be in trouble given that the tethering system didn't work (well, the wheels were tethered ok, but tethered to the bit that failed!)


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 8:09 am
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๐Ÿ˜ฏ

You can see the left wheel race way towards the barrier and make a break for freedom!


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 8:15 am
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That was unbe-freakin-lievable!! I have never seen anything like that.

FAVOURITE BIT: in the footage from the onboard camera, you can see poor old Buemi franticly steering to the right as the wall looms in to view. Bit of a forlorn hope there, matey! ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 8:19 am
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Toro Rosso pit stop yesterday.


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 8:25 am
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Is this a good example of carbon fibre failing catastrophically? Don't know if that's what the parts are made of, but it looks like it may be CF?


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 8:31 am
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Posted : 16/04/2010 8:37 am
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Is this a good example of carbon fibre failing catastrophically? Don't know if that's what the parts are made of, but it looks like it may be CF?

NAH - nowt to do with CF failure - they'd just not tweaked the quick releases tight enough - they need to upgrade their front end that there fancy new 15mm through axle system.... ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 8:44 am
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Is this a good example of carbon fibre failing catastrophically? Don't know if that's what the parts are made of, but it looks like it may be CF?

Seriously? ๐Ÿ™„ Are you really that desperate to leap on the CF-is-bad bandwagon despite it frankly being a load of b******ks?

Once a part has failed (cracked/bent/deformed signifiantly) in a F1 type 'on the limit' situation, it will almost always fail catastrophically, irrespective of whether it's made of metal or carbon fibre because it'll be loaded way beyond what it's designed to cope with - 'outside design parameters'


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 8:45 am
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NAH - nowt to do with CF failure - they'd just not tweaked the quick releases tight enough - they need to upgrade their front end that there fancy new 15mm through axle system...
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Seriously? Are you really that desperate to leap on the CF-is-bad bandwagon despite it frankly being a load of b******ks?

I ride a carbon Enduro SL S-works and lust after either an Ibis Mojo HD or the new Nomad Carbon... so I have no fear of the plastic stuff ๐Ÿ™‚

Was just wondering at the absolute suddenness of the failure, though as you say everything was probably 'at the limit' of its design parameters so I guess it would've looked the same regardless of materials?


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 8:54 am
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"the wheel tethers were attached to the part of the upright that broke off"

D'oh!


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 9:03 am
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even more for the camera man at the back of the gravel trap who has to duck to avoid that flying wheel.


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 9:11 am
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Buemi: "From in the car it was not a problem. I just lost both wheels."

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Posted : 16/04/2010 1:04 pm
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Boring F1 strikes again ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 1:10 pm
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love the onboard where he gives the steering wheel a good old heave to the right to 'steer' away from the impending wall.

that aint gonna work son! - you've got no wheels!!!


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 1:12 pm
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love the onboard where he gives the steering wheel a good old heave to the right to 'steer' away from the impending wall.

that aint gonna work son! - you've got no wheels!!!

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Instinctive behaviour, but mental!

Well, good that he's ok, and no-one's been hurt. ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 1:17 pm
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yes indeed. amusing, but explainable.

thanks.


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 1:21 pm
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Bit of a flat spot on the rears ๐Ÿ™‚

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Posted : 16/04/2010 2:50 pm
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As far as crashes go, it seemed pretty controlled really - plenty of run-off area. It would have been *fun* mid-race mind you :-O


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 3:22 pm
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Where is the on-board footage? I can't see it on the BBC site.


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 3:29 pm
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As MF says, a remarkable landing, incredily smooth run off considering.


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 3:32 pm
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You tube saves the day!


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 3:33 pm
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I think the issue is more the loose wheels rather than the crash per se

Anyway - onboard VT


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 3:36 pm
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[i] Is this a good example of carbon fibre failing catastrophically? Don't know if that's what the parts are made of, but it looks like it may be CF?

Seriously? Are you really that desperate to leap on the CF-is-bad bandwagon despite it frankly being a load of b******ks?[/i]

The OP is absoulutely correct, its a fantastic expample of carbon fibre failing catastrophically.

Where does he jump on a bandwagon to "diss" carbon fibre? , which *would* be silly, as we have no idea of the cause of the failure in this instance.


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 3:56 pm
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I like the way he kept trying to steer after the wheels fell off ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 4:00 pm
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wish i;d said something like that.


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 4:01 pm
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BBC footage...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8624276.stm


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 4:03 pm
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The front/right upright failed causing the rest to fail
A new design just fitted for this race, it failed in the first heavy braking zone on the first lap of first practice.

The loose wheels - worryingly - went over the spectator fencing


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 6:54 pm
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Is this new parts designed to create the "ride-height" effect that RB have?


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 8:37 pm
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I thought he was quite cool, he kept looking straight ahead to where he was going. I'd have been watching the wheels going backwards!!!


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 8:41 pm
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[b]Is this new parts designed to create the "ride-height" effect that RB have? [/b]

*chuckles*


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 9:54 pm
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The OP is absoulutely correct, its a fantastic expample of carbon fibre failing catastrophically.

Except that the uprights are not made of carbon fibre.


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 10:07 pm
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well, I was only wondering... do you know for a fact that they're not?


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 10:16 pm
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well, I was only wondering... do you know for a fact that they're not?

Made of cheese, I believe, with a Pseudo CF wrap.... ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 10:44 pm
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A new design just fitted for this race, it failed in the first heavy braking zone on the first lap of first practice.

A useful comment - apart from the fact he was on his 6th lap and that there's at least one previous point on the circuit where braking is just as heavy.


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 11:07 pm
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Article 10.5.1 of the f1 technical regulations, uprights must be made from a permitted aluminium alloy.


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 11:11 pm
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cool. thanks for the clarification ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 16/04/2010 11:24 pm
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They were made from MMC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_matrix_composite


 
Posted : 17/04/2010 3:07 am
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A lucky boy? [i]Lucky?[/i] His bloody wheels fell off! ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 17/04/2010 7:59 am
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Yes, just how lucky can one person be ๐Ÿ˜†

Obviously different mat'ls fail in differing ways. There are great uses for CF and after all the years of F1 using it, I've no concerns there.

Could TR have just got a bit cheeky with their design ?, were there other factors involved ?. I'm sure TR and the race stewards will want to know and regain their confidence in the TRs ability to race safely.

I don't think Bernie would want to see that happen again !, indeed none of us would, so I'm sure that someone will have a quiet word with someone else...

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Posted : 17/04/2010 8:34 am
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They were made from MMC

Up until this year they would have been but the regs changed for 2010, uprights MUST be aluminium. Composites are specifically forbidden.


 
Posted : 17/04/2010 9:06 am