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Scotch eggs, 29/1/2023, would you eat them?

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Sending out products with Listeria is not the same as whether a safe at POS product can be used after a used by date though is it.

I would do as others, smell them, look at them, taste a small bit and go from there.


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 8:19 am
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I’m tempted but my other half says no.

Why do you ask questions you might not like the answers to?

Get them eaten.


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 8:41 am
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Sending out products with Listeria is not the same as whether a safe at POS product can be used after a used by date though is it.

Listeria is absolutely everywhere in the environment, it can be found in meat, fish, dairy produce, vegetables, and fruit.

It can thrive in soil by absorbing dissolved organic material in the same way as mushrooms, or or it can make the transition to a pathogen and thrive in humans and animals.

Listeria can live, thrive, and multiply, in low temperatures associated with refrigeration.

It is unrealistic to assume that all safe food can and will be free from Listeria :

"Many methods, such as the application of antimicrobial agents and UV radiation, have been used to reduce the microbial load in fresh produce. However, a pathogenic bacterium such as L. monocytogenes might not be completely inactivated due to its remarkable ability to survive in adverse conditions."

The best that can be reasonably be hoped for is to minimise the microbial load in fresh produce. One of the effective ways of doing that is to limit the period of time before consumption:

"Several reports have demonstrated that L. monocytogenes is commonly present in a wide variety of fresh produce samples. It is important to reduce the level of this pathogen to enhance the fresh produce safety and protect consumer health."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5368540/

Just do the sniff test.. cut it in half and give it a sniff.
If it smells funky bin it, if it doesn’t smell funky, eat it.

Why would you do that to a scotch egg which you felt was safe to eat? It doesn't sound like a reliable and very scientific way to test for pathogens. Would you be happy with scotch egg manufacturers to use that as a means of measuring the safety of their products?

A far more reliable way to find out if a scotch egg is safe to eat is to eat it and see if it makes you ill. Vomiting and diarrhoea will help you to decide whether not throwing away a scotch egg was worth it.

Has the OP posted recently?


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 11:52 am
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Cost of Scotch egg - £couple of quid

Cost of heaving your guts out from both ends for a number of days ? then of course that nausea feeling.lasting as long. AND the chance it might develop into a very nasty illness.

Throw it in the bin you cheap barstard 😆


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 11:58 am
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And they’re not deep fried

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They are?

I have two opinions

1 it depends on the scotch egg, unless they are top quality fresh butcher type ones then they'd go on the bin before best before date. A rubbery egg rattling in a leathery spongy case is rank.

If they are worth eating Kryton has it, piccililli for the win. Prickly and mustard are acceptable in a pinch.


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 12:21 pm
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Best before-Ignore

Use by but with a fairly long shelf life i.e Yogurts with a few weeks on them, sniff and go.

Use by with just a few days shelf life, such as cream, sandwich fillings, pastys, I'd probably go a day past as long as I'm confident it's not been out the fridge too long! But otherwise it's not worth the risk of missed outings on the bike!

Frozen... I'll go years past the use by!


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 1:05 pm
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They'll be fine - better with a tin of pipping hot baked beans over them - sausage egg n beans 😋


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 1:07 pm
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Listeria is absolutely everywhere in the environment, it can be found in meat, fish, dairy produce, vegetables, and fruit.

Yeah, I am well aware of what listeria is. My comment was specifically at the false link between a product recall with known Listeria presence and a product a few days over its use by date. It may have Listeria it may not, just as it may or may not have on the day of it's use by date.

Anyway I just ask my wife as she is always right and I have history of self induced issues eating things I shouldn't have...


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 1:41 pm
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If it smelled Ok I would be happy with a 1923 date.
Completely pointless printing ink waste.


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 2:27 pm
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I think the Listeria recall article which dyna-ti posted was to highlight how dangerous Listeria can be, the article mentions possible complications caused by Listeria.

I guess it is up to you if you believe this creates a false link between possible Listeria poisoning due to high levels of contamination and food past its use by date.

Personally I think it is quite pertinent - microbial load can increase significantly with the passage of time.


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 2:32 pm
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Wash it in some Milton if you’re worried and then eat it. Mmmmm! Mild bleach


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 3:11 pm
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Did you decide? If it's a no, bring them next time we ride please


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 4:24 pm
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Youngest had one last night and survived so I finished the other one this morning. I did slather it in Reggae Reggae sauce so I could've been eating anything.


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 4:59 pm
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Do Scotch eggs float in water if they're off? 😉


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 5:14 pm
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Cut it in half, removed the egg to find the white bit had a somewhat greenish tinge.

That in itself is not a problem. It's just a reaction of sulphur in egg white and iron in the yolk usually caused by overcooking. Perfectly edible if unsightly.


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 5:18 pm
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Scotch eggs float in whisky.


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 6:05 pm
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Youngest had one last night and survived so I finished the other one this morning.

Im sure thats pretty unethical, testing possibly poisoned food on the kids 😯

Maybe you should check back in every few hours, till the 72 hours gestation period is up.


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 6:14 pm
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Use by dates are a thing for cattle and love play, not scotch eggs


 
Posted : 04/02/2023 11:53 pm
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A scotch egg in a packet with a use by date probably wasn't worth eating when it was packaged.
A scotch egg from the butchers probably wouldn't have made it home.


 
Posted : 05/02/2023 12:07 am
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Fry them with onions and they'll be beautiful.
I'm very jealous.


 
Posted : 05/02/2023 12:10 am
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Brown sauce...Northern Antibiotic


 
Posted : 05/02/2023 12:57 am
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A recent food "discovery" has been fish finger fried rice. Now I'm thinking Scotch Egg Fried Rice could be a goer.


 
Posted : 05/02/2023 9:03 am
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I'd always use the sniff test, that's what we did before they started printing dates on everything, and somehow the human race thrived. TBF some of the supermarkets are removing dates from some foods. Noticed it on some peppers the other day.

Only caveat is that my sense of smell was a bit crap after COVID. Think it's pretty much back to normal now.


 
Posted : 05/02/2023 9:28 am
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What does Listeria and Salmonella smell like?


 
Posted : 05/02/2023 10:10 am
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Well all good so far, not even an eggy fart.


 
Posted : 05/02/2023 12:27 pm
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Plus you have saved yourself about £1.50. It sounds like a win-win to me. 👍


 
Posted : 05/02/2023 12:38 pm
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Sometimes I have rice in the fridge that a couple of days past it’s use by date.

I add it to some soup and stick it in the oven for about three hours on the lowest setting.

That seems to kill any bacteria ☠️☠️☠️


 
Posted : 05/02/2023 12:43 pm
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Rice is the one food I'm scared to use my common sense (i.e. senses) on due to horror stories when living abroad. Weird bugs on rice.


 
Posted : 05/02/2023 12:54 pm
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Yes. Just ate a pork pie dated 31.1.23.

If it smells alright it probably is. I will report back later on the soundness of my hypothesis.


 
Posted : 05/02/2023 1:07 pm
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Surely, suggesting you.can pick up a bug, eating an iffy Scotch egg, must be a racist trope aimed at the good people of Scotland.?

Asking for a friend...


 
Posted : 05/02/2023 1:59 pm
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No. An iffy Scots egg or Scottish egg might be a racist trope.


 
Posted : 05/02/2023 4:58 pm
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rice

Aye, botulism for a start.


 
Posted : 05/02/2023 5:20 pm
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must be a racist trope aimed at the good people of Scotland.?

Never mind about that, someone just claimed "Weird bugs on rice".

We dealt with that apparently racist trope a couple of weeks ago.


 
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