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16:50 a couple of years ago, haven't done one for ages.
35:52 for a 10K.
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It's weird, when racing locally (Lincolnshire) I'm right up there, top-10s in 10Ks and 2nd at an XC half. But I still race near my old home in Fife, did a 10 mile race in 29:40, came about 40th and got beaten by two girls! Got into the top 100 at Carnethy (just) and was dead chuffed with that. The competition is definatle ybetter up there.
It depends upon what you're trying to measure yourself against as to how fast you are.
If you're a beanpole/run for a club/have 'competed' then sub-20 mins for 5k is where you should be aiming.
If you run to get fit, do occasional fun-runs / charity runs then if you're sub-25 you're usually in the top half.
I've run 21:46 for a 5km, I only occasionally run for a bit of fitness for hockey and biking and come in the top 50 out of 300 in my local parkrun when i do it. I'm happy with that as I have a completely different physique from the skinny gets in front of me and carry a good 4 stone more in weight than them.
Parkruns are great if you pick the right pacemaker in front of you to focus on and concentrate on their 'form'
brooess - MemberA sub-40 will see you in the top 25% of a 10k - not a fun run but one with club runners too.
Depends on the race,. Last year I ran:
35:30 in a low-key club 10k and came about 65th of 500ish.
36:50 in a big charity 10k and came 11th of about 7,000.
Managed a 17:34 at park run last year.
"Quick" for a cyclist and "quick" for a runner doing a 5k / 10k are different I guess. I was basing this on my experience as a runner from about 10 years ago when I was training quite a lot and a 40 minute 10k for me, then, would have been a steady training run. It's all relative isn't it, I doubt I could get anywhere near a 40 minute 10k now.
I'd say sub 20 would be considered pretty good. Most people would need to do a bit of running to achieve that.
Closer to 15 minutes is very good and sub 15 would be very competitive. Thats when you realise that Mo is practically sprinting for 5k to get sub 13min. Madness.
aye andrewh carnethy Hill runners are notoriously unhinged.
1 or 2 of them will even give most expert mtb riders a run for their money at cycling.
With a few weeks training most men should be able to run under 20 mins I would have thought, unless overweight. That's (obviously) 40 minute 10k pace which in itself is not particularly quick.
Really? You appear to have forgotten to tell us what your pb is.
My best 5k on the road was 17:30, but that was the half-way point in a 10k as I've never run a 5k event (second half was a little slower at 18 minutes dead). Have run 16:30 on a treadmill.
The last 10k I ran I was top 10 with a 38 minute run, but as mentioned it all depends on the event.
Speaking as a 39:35 PB, sub 40 is most definitely NOT ballpark for a regular runner. A sub-40 will see you in the top 25% of a 10k
Top 25% but over 5 mins back from the top 10.
(speaking as a sub 35 10k'er)
I guess many people think the fun-run/park run/mass entry type of thing is what a normal 10k or 5k event is all about, whereas I think the smaller local races are the standard. Given that on every single weekend there will be a local race not far from you then I say that's right as the smaller open club races are the most common type.
Troon 10k 2012 had nearly 900 entrants yet it was won in only 31-odd. I remember doing a club event that had 20-odd in it and it was won in 30 mins, pretty much everyone was finished by 40mins.
mtbmatt - Member
I'd say sub 20 would be considered pretty good. Most people would need to do a bit of running to achieve that.
Closer to 15 minutes is very good and sub 15 would be very competitive. Thats when you realise that Mo is practically sprinting for 5k to get sub 13min. Madness.
Exactly! Try running a lap of a track in 62 seconds and imagine holding that for 12 laps! I could have done it for 4 laps at my best, and be utterly dead with no sprint at the end and I thought I was good... another level!
Really? You appear to have forgotten to tell us what your pb is.
15:50 fwiw, having done a lot of training for the 800/1500m. That isn't especially "quick" but it would appear to be to the novice runner. 20 mins would be achievable for most runners with a bit of (the right kind of) training.
15:50 fwiw, having done a lot of training for the 800/1500m. That isn't especially "quick"
...erm. It isn't?
aye andrewh carnethy Hill runners are notoriously unhinged
Pish, bunch of pansies
Jamie - Member
15:50 fwiw, having done a lot of training for the 800/1500m. That isn't especially "quick"
...erm. It isn't?
You'd need to be hitting sub 15 to win a lot of good club races, say 14:30 to win county races. The better you get the more you feel/know how much faster you should/want to be. You'd still be getting lapped by Mo etc at this speed!
Going by the title this thread is aimed at runners, as opposed to people who just jog now and then?
[b]Organic[/b] don't worry about it, your 24 mins for 5k was on a treadmill in a gym during a training session. You can pretty much guarantee everyone else is talking about their PB during a race.
You should be able to run a fair bit faster if you ran on the road in a race - I certainly wouldn't be running flat out for 5k very often on a training run.
Totally agree, but he did ask for pbs 🙂
Dan - I'm guessing you're referring to club races in and around Glasgow? Given that runners who are sub 15 mins tend to race the track at some point during the season there aren't a huge number of sub 15s on this 5k track rankings list from runners from Scottish clubs (similar numbers on the 10k rankings too).
Must be the same few runners winning most of the races, so those that are able to must be the very best, and not the norm.
[url= http://www.thepowerof10.info/rankings/rankinglist.aspx?event=5000&agegroup=ALL&sex=M&year=2012 ]5k track rankings[/url]
Marvin - he did, but no point getting disheartened comparing against PBs.
Not really hammerite, there are often a shortage of high quality 5000m track races in the scottish calendar, and there are more club runners that focus on road racing than the track in the senior rankings, therefore peaking for a track 5000m would possibly interfere with big 5k road races. There are far more guys running road seriously than track at that distance.
My road pb was 15s faster than my track 5000m. Track surfaces vary a lot and it's not always faster, not to mention that races can be more tactical especially when there are people who feel they have a good sprint finish, such as an old club mate from Inverclyde that won the national xc 2 times.
😳Where's Surfer? He's a handy lad in two legs
Road ones dont really count but I have done under 15 for 3 miles (around 200m short of 5k) and done sub 20 mins for 4 miles.
Best track 5k 15:48, best track 3k 9.01.
23 minutes, but that was a while ago so should be a minute or two quicker now. 1/4 marathon 54 mins, 1/2 marathon under 2 hours.
Training a fair bit so should beat all of those in the next month or two.
Running is great.
[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/stw-runners-who-is-the-fastest?replies=1#post-4556965 ]Come on let's compare PB's, who is fastest?[/url]
Understood Dan. I'd agree with you that generally a lot of 5k races round here are won in around 15m, but there are very few runners who get close to being in that position and not the norm. There usually tends to be a fair gap between the top couple of runners and the next best.
OP here again, just upped my game a little this evening and from my original 24:07 yesterday I managed a 21:32 tonight which I am quite pleased with.
I am definitely not a runner and this was hard for me, cant see me ever being able to break 20 minutes to be honest.
I ran 16m59s on the road last Saturday. My PB is a smidge faster.
organic355 - Member
OP here again, just upped my game a little this evening and from my original 24:07 yesterday I managed a 21:32 tonight which I am quite pleased with.I am definitely not a runner and this was hard for me, cant see me ever being able to break 20 minutes to be honest.
You need to get outdoors to guage what sort of speed you can run at. Honestly, the treadmill is pointless. Get a well-callibrated cycle computer and measure out a loop of, say, roughly 1000m, and then see what you can do. If it's just under 1000m, make a white mark on a tree/pavement/fence where the extra metres are to make up the 5000 on the last lap.
I really don't think the treadmill is "pointless" it has a very valid point. It was raining the last 2 evenings when I go home from work, with it in my garage I have run 20k this week, without it I would have sat on my area and played playstation.
With a few weeks training most men should be able to run under 20 mins I would have thought, unless overweight.
Statements like this are:
1. Wrong
2. Exactly the right thing to say to beginner runners if you want them to quit before they've got into running.
My fastest adult 5k is 22 minutes. As a teenager it was around 18 minutes. I'm sure I could get below 20 minutes but it would be a lot of work and although I don't look like a distance runner, I look much less like a rugby second row, so I'm in the right physical ballpark as it were.
damn predictive text above area = arse
It was raining the last 2 evenings when I go home from work
I haven't run for years and years. Injured. It sucks. I loved it.
Running in the rain = awesome.
I really miss it.
Using treadmills is not as good for getting fit as proper running for many reasons. Your ankles and shins won't learn to adapt to the terrain, you overheat given there is no wind to evaporate the sweat, you genuinely can't push yourself as hard (despite what you may feel after running hard on the treadmill!), your body is simply not prepared for running were you to enter a race, for example.
It's odd that rain puts you off running!
Get out there and get fit! 🙂
I assume most if not all these times are on road? How much difference would you expect a time to be if the route is off road, fields and mud? Assume similar elevation.
it's impossible to say, all depends on the course. I doubt many got a PB on this one...
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Using treadmills is not as good for getting fit as proper running for many reasons. Your ankles and shins won't learn to adapt to the terrain, you overheat given there is no wind to evaporate the sweat, you genuinely can't push yourself as hard (despite what you may feel after running hard on the treadmill!), your body is simply not prepared for running were you to enter a race, for example.
A friend does 95% of her running on a treadmill, with the odd track session. Normally finishes in the top 3 female vets. She's not so great at off-road for obvious reasons. So yeah no doubt she could go faster if she did more miles on roads, but it's hardly crippling her performance.
19mins according to Endemondo at the Great South.
19.04 for 5km, 1hr 36 for half marathon .I hate running though and these were years ago .Did a very crap 23 .10 in the last 5 km I did last year
Off road in the woods up and down hill 10K 50 mins
20:18 but that was last year. I reckon that's top ten in the STW 5K which I'm quite happy about!!
couldn't do that now I don't think, been doing much longer slower runs
Im a very different runner to most of you lot
Managed an average speed of 4.7mph on my hill reps yesterday of 4 x 1.72 miles with 1086ft up then the same back down within that distance.
Maybe I should just bugger off to the Walkingforum
I did a 19.53 this morning at parkrun, which is some way of my best - 19.20, but it was very muddy! That's my excuse this week anyway...
Over 30 minutes today - first run since Dovedale Dash in November, plus it was up a big hill, that's my excuse anyway.
I had Zombies chasing me - am doing 'Zombies Run' at the mo - silly zombie story game that plays on your phone while you run. Every so often you hear undead hordes chasing you and have to run faster, it is pretty cool.
piemonster - Member
Im a very different runner to most of you lot
Not at all - I only run roads to train for fell. That's a good training run. Where are you?
I went for a run today, I was going to clock my 5k speed, but stopped to tie my shoe laces, so my timings got screwed up.
22minutes with a pushchair at parkrun, never done a 5km without one so don't know an actual pb. If I do another, I'll ignore their advice t start at the back with a pushchair! It gets a bit silly overtaking lots of people, particularly with a toddler waving at them as we pass!