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England:
4 wins out of 4 in a tough group
only one try scored against them
highest individual try scorer
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not that bad
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bendirs/2011/10/celtic_classic_in_the_making.html ]But if the rugby that wins this tournament turns out to be 15-man rugby, artful rugby, attacking rugby, dynamic rugby, then this tournament will have been a success. It is a shame either Wales or Ireland will be heading home next weekend, because if rugby wants to extend its global appeal and attract new supporters, the sport needs sides like these.[/url]
Hear, hear!
Agreed.
England:
4 wins out of 4 in a tough group
only one try scored against them
highest individual try scorer
.
not that bad
4 wins against: the under-prepared, over-the-hill Argies without their best player; One dimensional Georgia; Romania's second XV; Scotland - pretty hopeless against anyone but England.
One try conceded: see the above and also note Scotland are the lowest try scorers in the last 5yrs of 6N whilst Arg/Georgia play the 10 man game.
Highest Try Scorer: When he actually gets the ball. He waited 60mins for his first touch against Scotland!
Not that bad? Not that good.
Probably conceded more penalties at the breakdown than anybody else and had more citings/bans too (?).
You'd enjoy [url= http://samhopwood.blogspot.com/2011/10/dominant-england-on-course-for-world.html?showComment=1317642886288#c2633319359331046930 ]THIS BLOG[/url] 😉
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I'm genuinely unsure as to whether to take that guy seriously or not. 😀
I think he works for ITV
Darcy, read the little linky at the bottom....! 🙂
Yes, Gethin is a spent force. Healy was more than able for Castro, didnt Castro go off injured after 20mins? He's massively overated anyway.OB is European player of the year and while Warburton is good, he isn't that good.
Roberts again a very good player however Darcy was excellent yesterday and is more than a match for him. Plus the chap in the green 13 shirt isn't too shabby.
Gethin a spent force? He is easily the best loosehead in britain when fit.
O'B is very good but not an openside I wonder if he will cope with Warbs on the floor and will the welsh cope with O'B ball in hand.
Roberts is so much better than Darcy its not funny.
Is Gethin the player he was in 2009 - don't think so.
Would you rather have OB or Warb in the team? I know who I would pick every time.
Roberts is a great player, but I reckon we can match them. Its gonna be a cracker - i can't wait!
I really hope that the winner goes on a good run and gets to the final, I just really hope its Ireland!
[i]Maybe the press is a bit out to get them more than Ire/Sco/Wal?[/i]
That's been the case for, well forever.
Same case with this thread, which is why I can no longer be arsed with it.
Even though I'm officially not an England supporter for this tournament!
Cheerio then DezzieBee 🙂 x
Probably conceded more penalties at the breakdown than anybody else and had more citings/bans too
probably on the penalties but having the best defence comes at a price
the citings/ ban comment is a bit unfair
You'd enjoy THIS BLOG
this man talks a lot of sense, though he should write with a little more confidence 🙂
Namaste you need to write your lines 1000 times...
"I will not read the daily mail and believe it word for word"
I was glad when Johnson finally managed to hear me screaming at the TV
"Take Youngs and Wilko off, put Flood and Wrigglesworth on..." 😆
Namaste you need to write your lines 1000 times...
"I will not read the daily mail and believe it word for word"
😆
That blog is ace, bet the writer had a Pukka Wallah fanning him during the heatwave of the last few days.
Can I just add that it is truly marvellous to have a player with the name "Wigglesworth" playing rugby. 😀
Punkah wallah, not pukka. Mine is rather exhausted at present. I have given him half an hour off.
I think this is possibly who Armitage has been getting tackling lessons off 😀
THat was a great tackle!
That'll teach Ollie Morgan to wear those poncy lycra shorts 🙂
4 wins out of 4 in a tough group
what have you been smoking?
wales had the gorup of death!
any group with Namibia in can't be considered the group of death
or the gorup
Is Gethin the player he was in 2009 - don't think so.Would you rather have OB or Warb in the team? I know who I would pick every time.
gethin has pretty much been injured all this season and was most of last season, so your comment is pretty fatuous and saying that Healy will take care of him is pretty daft as both are looseheads. gethin will also struggle to make the starting 15 anyway.
Who would I rather have Warburton or O'B, at openside Warburton every day and twice on a sunday. Overall it all depends on who else is in the backrow. Ireland lack a groundhog openside like Pocock, Macaw or Brussow, it could cost them maybe not against Wales but certainly against better teams. Warburton and Feris with O'B at 8 would be good to watch. I maybe proved wrong but O'B is not a proper 7 I would have liked to see how he did against Pocock if he hadnt been injured.
The welsh backrow isnt picked to carry like the irish one. Roberts and North do the carrying for Wales along with the locks and props. Also watch them off second phase ball Wales will use a lock or prop to go into contact and the backrow clear out. Ireland use the backrow to take into contact and the locks and props clear out. Warbs suits the welsh style O'B the Irish. The Irish centres are not use to bash it up the middle as much as the more powerful welsh centres either. Horses for courses.
We'll be needing to start a STW Lions tour thread soon!
any group with [s]Namibia[/s] [b]Scotland[/b] in can't be considered the group of death
or the gorupFIFY
Kearney
Bowe
? BOD still around for Lions?
Roberts
North
Flood
Phillips
Jenkins
Ford
Cole
Grey
Palmer?
Feris? Croft is a good lineout option might be needed with a shortarse at 8
Warbs
O'B
Whoever wins in the Wales V Ireland game will get to the final.
England and France have both failed to perform or display anything like world champion quality.
Wales all the way for me 🙂
Ireland can make the final, Wales won't go past England if they get to the semis IMO.
Wales vs Ireland is too tight to call. I can't wait to watch it
Whilst O'Brien is a great ball carryier he is not an open side and I think that may be the undoing of Ireland . Their back row lacks balance. That said it is still an awesome go forward back row. To call it a weakness would be soooo unfair.
The Welsh Props are stronger than the Irish, Irish edge it in 2nd row.
Half backs - probably Wales. Centres'?? All great players but Darcy & BOD edge it for me in terms of all round ability. Back 3. Williams, Bowe & Kearney would be my pick from both teams
I agree it will be a real shame for one of the 2 to go out in the QF's. They are both a notch above England & France & Argentina
Wales vs Ireland - don't know. Happy either way but leaning towards Ireland edging it
Eng vs France - England (though maybe France will turn up?)
NZ vs Arg - NZ by a mile
Oz vs SA - tight but SA
Wales won't go past England if they get to the semis IMO
If wales beat ireland, and its a big if I would expect them to rip England to shreds
Centres'?? All great players but Darcy & BOD
Davies aint a great player and neither is Darcy
If wales beat ireland, and its a big if I would expect them to rip England to shreds
On current form, I wholeheartedly agree. However, form is one of those funny things....
If wales beat ireland, and its a big if I would expect them to rip England to shreds
Ah, expectation. You know deep down that it won't happen though don't you?
****ing glitch AGAIN!
AND AGAIN!
Glitchybumpybumfukery!
Jeremy Guscott labels england players as a disgrace. Seems even the faithful are turning 🙂
Seems even the faithful are turning
You know what, his columns this time round have been quite refreshing. Not minding him these days as much as I used to.
If wales beat ireland, and its a big if I would expect them to rip England to shreds
Based on their current form - which consists of a narrow defeat to SA, a 7pt win over Samoa and hammerings of Namibia and a Fiji side who didn't turn up.
I'm not saying Wales haven't looked good but you do need to take into account the opposition.
Ditto. I would still happily punch him though!
However, Guscott and Gibbs as a centre pairing. Awesome!
Based on their current form - which consists of [s]a narrow defeat to[/s] a victory over SA as the referee chose to take the video ref opinion on that kick, a 7pt win over Samoa and hammerings of Namibia and a Fiji side who [s]didn't turn up[/s]were destroyed. Utterly destroyed with a ruthless killer streak not often seen in rugby these days
FTFY. 😉
RWC News Hour on 5Live at the moment by the way.
If I was Johnson, I'd be slapping a media ban on all his squad - just listened to Cueto - do they have no idea of how they're being perceived?
Warburton - "the last time I had a drink was during the six nations."
I think Wales looked that good against SA, I'd have to favour them in the QF.
If I was Johnson, I'd be slapping a media ban on all his squad - just listened to Cueto - do they have no idea of how they're being perceived?
Quiet confidence?
Modestly?
They win, they win. Esa es la vida.
Amusing article on rugger buggers in the [url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/03/england-rugby-team-bad-behaviour ]Guardian[/url]:
[i]Thanks to Mike (Tindall) and his fellow miscreants, James Haskell, Dylan Hartley and Chris Ashton, "rugby player" now conjures a man with a mystery blonde on one arm and a midget on the other, asking a hotel worker for an "Aussie kiss", while being recorded on CCTV and, for good measure, recording it himself[/i]