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Annoying that I cant hear the ref.
Commentator: "The prop with pianist hands"
My ears: "The prop with pee on his hands"
Crackin pass by Farrel!
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Scotland top of the 6N table!
Hmm
Oh Tom
What a game to watch!
Oh dear
Cracking game so far!
Tom English summed things up well for Scotland today." The entire Scotland bench made a statement with their performances today, and that statement is "Don't let me anywhere near the team!"
Glen and I dont agree!!
Next 40 is key. Ireland will be on fire England must not switch off as usual....
Henshaw's positioning at 15 poor too many easy kicks to space, Ireland also losing aerial battle. Have they got a plan B?
Watching in Molly Malones On Hope St, Glasgow. I think it’s 3 of us v 50 Irish & 200 Scots!!
Still not convinced Healy grounded the ball- looked like an English hand was underneath.
Itoje got hit in a ruck and injured.
Can we stop the game there please? I can’t take this any more? 😂
So no plan B then!
Ireland look rattled.
Well done Slade...big 15 mins ahead of us now. Still can’t take much more of this! It’s too tense.
I’m just waiting for us to balls it up.
Edit: Oops, my mistake
Irelan need two tries and are still box kicking!
No one is going to be too worried by those two. The scots will beat both.
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Henry Slade!
Where did that come from
Oooft!
Jesus! ENGLAND!!!
Never saw a BP v Ireland coming.
Blimey.....instead of celebrating with a beer I've got to go play a gig after the grand total of 3 hours sleep last night ffs
Yay, England world beaters again 😁
Cracking game!
English defence won that - immense tackling - not too many stupid pens - properly impressive.
Well - I enjoyed that! May was Imperious in the air. Murray’s famous box kicks too long today.
Chatting to an old Irish chap all match - he kept shaking his head in respect to the Rngland defence.
I’ve said for a while that Ireland’s mistake is peaking a year early. Teams are now analysing their known style for counter-plans.
Well done England, some nifty play there.
Not so happy they got a bonus point though.
Wow. I didn’t see that result coming, I genuinely didn’t think that we’d have any answer for Ireland’s tactical kicking, nouce and generally accurate game. Downside is that there are a few injuries (although lock is one position where we actually have a few options).
Slade had a good game. Made a few big tackles, scored a couple of tries etc. Mako got through another mountain of work. The five points missed by Farrell didn’t cost us the game.
Scotland still top of the table.
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For a week until we get the irish backlash
Suddenly Ireland going away to Murrayfield looks tough. England should beat France at Twickers then on to Cardiff....I'm getting my slam busting pants out the bottom draw!!
Haha!! I fancy Wales to beat us....was the 30-3 slam busting mega win the last time you beat us in the 6n's? Neither team ever usually wins this many in a row between us!
Where is the Wales Ireland match? Could be the key game now.....England Wales will be a corcker though.
God I ****ing love the 6 Nations!!!
Well, I’ll be ****ed. Superhuman defence from England meant Ireland got more and more ragged.
O’Mahoney’s appraisal of Sinckler caught on mic is pretty right, though!
was the 30-3 slam busting mega win the last time you beat us in the 6n’s?
Thinks so. Was quite a big non six nations win since the though!
Where is the Wales Ireland match? Could be the key game now…..England Wales will be a corcker though.
Wales are playing both Ireland and England in Cardiff.
Lets not mess around. Ireland were well beaten. Beaten at home. Beaten tactically. Beaten players 1 - 15.
I said to my mate before the game that we hadn't seen an england team unencumbered by injury to key players for well over a year and that this should be how good the england team are/could be. Some may disagree, but I think Manu is hugely important to their success which is worrying given his history.
Given the performances so far, it won't make a jot of difference where wales play england, it'll be a thrashing wherever.
Some may disagree, but I think Manu is hugely important
He was massive in defence, taking several out of the line before they had even approached it. For a player that’s supposed to be undercooked and a little past it he didn’t do to bad. Anyone notice the hit on James Ryan that had Ryan clutching his arm? He swallowed Aki as well.
I actually think he’s outplayed Teo by a long chalk and is about to become first choice. I guess it’s easy to say when you are winning but for once our back line looks like it’ll worry people. May was very awesome, and Curry was a menace.
I was impressed with Billy V, when Itoje went off to be replaced by Hughes Billy had to go the full 80 and he did it well for such a big bloke.
Hope Itoje is OK for next week, not sure what England would do without all he cheering and clapping!
I thought Manu was almost constantly offside.
anagallis_arvensis
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Suddenly Ireland going away to Murrayfield looks tough. England should beat France at Twickers then on to Cardiff….I’m getting my slam busting pants out the bottom draw!!
I told you this would happen few weeks ago. I bet you a tenner you beat us.
It is a masterstroke by Schmidt to take inspiration from NZ, juggling the team and refusing to give any game plans away ahead of the WC besides the obvious 😉 Joking of course. England actually looked like a cohesive and balanced side for the first time in ages. Fair play for that.
I don’t think Itoje will be back for a wee bit. I read somewhere that he’d damaged his medial ligament. Shame because he had a good game today.
Given the performances so far, it won’t make a jot of difference where wales play england, it’ll be a thrashing wherever.
England looked very impressive, but surely they need to string a couple of games like that together before any certainty of their dominance. So many of the games swing on the slightest thing. In Gatland we trust ; )
France may well be England’s biggest challenge this 6N.
Extraordinary England defensive performance, speed, accuracy and physicality - difficult for any team to cope with that. Reminded me of the Saracens performance against Clermond in the European semi finals a few years ago when they lost to Toulon in the final. Whether it can be produced again and again is another matter, but an away win certainly puts England in a strong position for the Championship - Cardiff looks as if it could be decisive, but plenty of potential to slip up at home too.
Wow just seen this Southern Kings winner from a kick off v Edinburgh!!
https://www.rugbydump.com/news/watch-unbelievable-90-metre-try-wins-game-for-southern-kings
Stop trying to change the subject AA, we need to talk about england dominance for a couple more weeks.
That was an insane offload though.
good wheels on the winger too!
Stop trying to change the subject AA, we need to talk about england dominance for a couple more weeks.
No point talking England to win a grand slam and the world cup. It is written...
England looked very impressive, but surely they need to string a couple of games like that together before any certainty of their dominance. So many of the games swing on the slightest thing. In Gatland we trust ; )
Absolutely. I did caveat my comment saying "going in current form", which amounts to one game so not a huge data pool!
France may well be England’s biggest challenge this 6N.
Not sure how you came to that conclusion! Wales in Cardiff will be the sternest test surely?
I thought this was poignant - read the “Gameplan” and “Framework” sections .
https://the1014.com/eddie-jones-england-fitness/
I felt that played out yesterday, where England just strangled Irelands ability to go forward and pushed them back in defence with an “offensive” defense. Still though, there were some lulls in the second half, and with Eddie reporting that England “aren’t quite there yet” perhaps this is what he means. I don’t think Ireland had thier best game yesterday, and I think like previously, if England had been playing the AB’s, or Ireland in full flow, there would have be points against in the 3rd quarter.
So, Itoje has gone for the tournament, Sinckler will be reviewed this week. Sinckler interests me now. I think Eddie’s played on his hothead role - I think Sinckler knows how to wind people up, is doing so but under the mentoring of Jones t avoid Yellows/fights. Eddies reported himself to like a bit of “niggle” and it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s coaching Sinckler with a view as another option to remove oppo players from the game. Even after the exchange of words - within which Sinckler was well aware the touch judge was behind him - I saw Sinckler speak to, and patting O’Mahony gently on the head in rucks. He wanted him to react. Eddie would love for someone like O’Mahoney to be in the bin for 10 in a top level game
Ive disovered i can add to the overbearing english arrogance factor or here by doing this...
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Mind you, having Gashton in shot is even winding me up...
France may well be England’s biggest challenge this 6N.
Not sure how you came to that conclusion! Wales in Cardiff will be the sternest test surely?
You’re no doubt right - wishful thinking really, I’m not sure how my nerves will cope if it’s left to Wales to stop England winning the slam (little realistic chance Italy or Scotland will beat them, however many balls bounce their way).
If the England v France game was in Paris things may be different. To my eyes the teams are similar, big forwards, dangerous backs, lack discipline somewhat - England (unfortunately) have better structure.
Couple of questions
1) What was sinkler described as, I missed that?
2) some talk of a forward pass before one of the England tries, was that the Billy one before Farrell sliced his kick in to touch?
5plusN8: NSFW
not sure what caused it
France maybe Englands biggest test in the sense that they have the pack to match them, for 40-50mins at least. Wales (and Scotland) lack the grunt upfront to stop England. I was watching the game yesterday and expecting England to tire and drop the defensive intensity but they didnt thats very impressive from such a big pack.
some talk of a forward pass before one of the England tries, was that the Billy one before Farrell sliced his kick in to touch?
Clearly backwards
https://twitter.com/i/status/1091766795407687680
Kryton, ahh yes , I remember the incident but didn't catch what he said as he was walking backwards. Fair assessment of Sinklers on field personality, I expect he likes to be thought of one too.
So any answers on the Billy forward pass thing, POC commented on it after the try was awarded, but can't remember which one it was?
edit crossed post, thanks AA
If that was it, then it was clearly backwards.
However there was one which i think Billy threw, very short. two passes later Fareel got charged as he was kicking and it sliced off hard to the left into touch. One of my mates reckoned he did it on purpose as he saw the forward and wanted to kill it before a try came and it got dissallowed.
I dunno if thats true. I'll see if I can find it.
I expect Sinkler gave an already in touch POM a shove into the hoardings... should have done a Henson and given him a leg and a wing into it!!
I've rewatched, hard to see what Sinkler did to POM, but I spect you are right AA.
The forward pass comment was the one you illustrated, the Irish ex player commentator (edit Gordon D'arcy)said the ball leaves his hands backwards but drifts forwards, defo did not though. when he says "in the spirit of the game"..
Gordon D’arcy)said the ball leaves his hands backwards but drifts forwards,
Doesnt matter if it drifts forward.
Irish have gone very quiet on here havent they!
Yeah its about relative movement between the players.
I think the Irish have plenty to be proud of. Two very good teams. I still maintain Ireland will beat everyone else and England will have a tough time maintaining their level.
Yeah its about relative movement between the players.
Agreed not forward. The two players are in line as it’s thrown and when it’s caught, their speeds are the same - the ball just has the forward velocity of the player.
Thankfully there’s a Sunday game next weekend.
Question: How come Slades last try wasn't a double movement?
You are allowed to stretch out and place the ball after being tackled. You are not allowed to move your whole body forward
Ah yea, duh, Slade wasn't tackled, he just fell over.
Slade wasn't tackled / held, he just stumbled as he stretched for the ball.
Anyone see the cricket?
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Well done England. no complaints here, when England play with that kind of aggression and power it is hard to counter. Ireland need to bring A game to Murrayfield next week or we could quickly be facing a season like England had last year.
The difference between a good and bad year is tiny. In the record breaking run at the start of Jones era, England were never as good as the media hyperbole suggested, likewise they were never as poor as reported last year, just down on form and luck.
Similarly Ireland. They are bloody tough to beat, but still have limitations. This loss may well be the making of them, if it forces development of a new plan B C or D.
This 6N is still far from over. The only certainty is that Ireland can’t win a slam. And that the newspapers talk rubbish!
Dantsw13
Indeed - a generation ago a 5% difference in teams would mean a 3 pt win. Now it means a 20 pt win
Agree with you Dan. This might actually help Ireland come October and help them iron out some weaknesses.
Stander out - he played an hour with a fractured cheek bone and eye socket, tough guy.
Ouch! How long is Itoje out for?
I have read that Itoje is out for the rest of the tournament. Dunno how true it is.
Next week is going to be very tough for Scotland. Ireland will be hurting from that defeat and have not become a bad side overnight. Without our breakdown specialists Scotlands game plan is diminished. Without a ball carrier at 8 our attack with the forwards is ineffective. WE have the backs to score tries aplenty from anywhere on the park but can we get enough of the ball? I think Ireland will only give us scraps and although we score plenty of tries our conversion rate of chances to tries is not great so I expect and ireland win conmfortably
I wouldn’t be surprised if Itoje was out for a while; he wasn’t able to walk back onto the pitch on his own at the end. Whilst a loss, it’s one position where we have pretty good back up. I’d start Launchberry in his place and use Lawes for some impact off the bench. Whilst I’m looking forward to Sunday, I can’t help feel that the only way for England is down...
Other than injuries, I really hope the same team is picked again for continuity.
TJ - the Irish surprised me at the breakdown because they didn’t seem to hammer us there as I expected, in fact we won that battle. Despite the wobble in the last ten minutes, I expect that your boys will fancy their chances especially at home.
Every match this year is a proper match where you have to be 100% to win (ok, Italy aside, but you still can’t take them lightly) It’s great for the competition - hopefully long enough post competition to fix the broken ones pre- RWC.
TJ I agree we aren’t going to get across the gain line with Josh Strauss doing the bulk of the ball carrying as he goes into contact too high. The Irish will choke tackle him all day long.