davidtaylforth was a master.
He knew how to catch a fish.
Its a tricky issue where someone continually posts either abhorrent views or false claims and gets hounded for it then flounces
The issue of forum bullying/hounding is largely down to the collective effect. If someone posts something objectionable everyone else feels the need to weigh in and collectively they get a kicking. For this reason I tend to look to see if others have already called it and if they have I don't post. It's one of those internet v real life issues, in a real life situation most of us probably wouldn't engage in that kind of collective action but online it's easy for it to snowball.
It becomes quite similar to “no platforming” by peer pressure rather than by the mods.
A very similar thing happened to that TJ guy a few years ago. Whatever he posted, folk just jumped on a bandwagon to argue with him and wind him up, often without actually reading his posts.
Stratobiker, I use to like his blog on racing in France.
Its a tricky issue where someone continually posts either abhorrent views or false claims and gets hounded for it then flounces
Not quite what happened though.
Edit: Scrub that, he's gone, not worth typing about.
Ling
Ling
She's still lingering
Farmer Giles paged me once, which was nice. Can't remember what he wanted to ask me.
There is a few, most mentioned above. Hope they are OK for the most part.
I quite like this forum, despite recently being banned for a month, there's a good range of people who allegedly ride bikes now and then. So I'm hanging around for a bit. My condolences.
Edit: on a total tangent, it’s a pity the tag notifications don’t work on the updated forum; mods – any word when this will be fixed?
It's currently on the to-do list for site version 2.7.6, 2.7.4 being current and 2.7.5 planned to go live next week. This isn't set in stone though, tasks can and do move.
The issue of forum bullying/hounding is largely down to the collective effect. If someone posts something objectionable everyone else feels the need to weigh in and collectively they get a kicking. For this reason I tend to look to see if others have already called it and if they have I don’t post. It’s one of those internet v real life issues, in a real life situation most of us probably wouldn’t engage in that kind of collective action but online it’s easy for it to snowball.
This. If you hold a minority view then it's going to be a majority of people who disagree with you. That's not bullying, it's simply numbers. It's when it starts spilling across into other threads than it becomes exponentially more problematic. As someone else said though, I don't really know what the solution is to this - 20 people wade in in response to a post, we issue 20 warnings, we've essentially then just granted diplomatic immunity to the OP to post whatever they like unchallenged.
I never quite worked out whether Jmaba was a wind-up merchant, a serial BSer or just lived in his own little fantasy world and believed everything he posted, but if someone is going to post complete nonsense presented as fact then it should come as no surprise to them when it gets corrected.
We always encouraged him to use the Report Post link if anyone replied more robustly than he was comfortable with and he never did, so we assumed he was perfectly happy to keep popping in, throwing hand-grenades and then changing the subject.
I had off forum discussions with Jamba and he never intimated he was particularly angry about being called out. THM on the other hand could not cope with it. ( THM and Jamba are real life friends)
Cougar - what about the position like with Geetee? To me his views where abhorrent but clearly deeply and sincerely held. There was a bit of a pile on on him calling him out for his views. I felt they could not go unchallenged but clearly it really got to him. Other folk took the view that he was bullied for his views.
He didn’t need to his conjoined twin did it for him.
THM and Jamba are real life friends
Good God!
I exchanged some messages with Jamba which I note have disappeared from my profile without me deleting them. He made much of being Paris based which makes having a friend in Scotland surprising. I'm afrai I took his messages as an attempt at manipulation rather than genuinely friendly. THM and you seemed to be at daggers drawn for years, TJ.
Peterfile, I seem to remember he posted some top notch camping and adventure photos in Scotland - I even toyed with the idea of a camping holiday, but I quickly came back to my senses.
Sorry guys, re SFB I meant I wont ever see or ride with him again. To the best of my knowledge he is in a care home now after a 2nd heart attack. Apologies for giving the wrong impression.
Peterfile, I seem to remember he posted some top notch camping and adventure photos in Scotland
Some spectacular scenery in some of them. Also lots of mountains, I think.
Sorry guys, re SFB I meant I wont ever see or ride with him again. To the best of my knowledge he is in a care home now after a 2nd heart attack. Apologies for giving the wrong impression.
There were a fair few people posting on his FB timeline only 3 weeks ago for his birthday.
I know the family were always very private but I'm sure we'd have heard if he'd passed away.
THM and Jamba are real life friends
TJ, do you mean friends of yours, or each other?
He made much of being Paris based which makes having a friend in Scotland surprising.
He has a propert in Paris I believe he may have been planning on moving there. Anyway that’s enough from me as he’s not hear to defend himself.
Peterfile - I met him and his SO in an Aviemore café a few years ago. I wasn't sure it was him and didn't know his real name, so I actually had to ask "are you Peterfile?".
That could have gone horribly wrong!
Speaking of peters, what about peterpoddy, the motorcyclist from somewhere south?
I got to sit out for a week because of Jamba, if he didn’t report it who did, had some nonsense from Drac which has coloured my opinion of him. Not an easy job being a mod but some are better than others.
I got to sit out for a week because of Jamba, if he didn’t report it who did, had some nonsense from Drac which has coloured my opinion of him. Not an easy job being a mod but some are better than others.
Anyone can report a post. Warnings don’t show from a specific mod.
Peterfile – I met him and his SO in an Aviemore café a few years ago. I wasn’t sure it was him...
@scotroutes If its the chap I'm thinking of I'll wager a bet that it was his SO you recognised first... she's, erm, very attractive!
One name that springs to mind is that chap who use to win Ten under Ben every year, raddogair I think. Not seen him on here in a long time..
Now seems an oportune moment to ask..aracer and junkyard, I kinda assumed they were the same character with 2 log ins? They always appeared on same threads, both held exactly the same views and backed each other up constantly, and their assertion that they were always correct on any subject known to man was borderline comical.
If its the chap I’m thinking of I’ll wager a bet that it was his SO you recognised first… she’s, erm, very attractive!
It is.
aracer and junkyard
I've met them both. At the same time. I can confirm they are not conjoined twins.
. Warnings don’t show from a specific mod.
Well I had a e mail from you about it.
Did you? That is intriguing as we ordinarily don’t email members.
Sorry guys, re SFB I meant I wont ever see or ride with him again. To the best of my knowledge he is in a care home now after a 2nd heart attack. Apologies for giving the wrong impression.
Just as much my fault for getting the wrong end of the stick.
THM doesn't live in Scotland which is pretty evident from his posts (and his forum name).
Checked and not once have I emailed you, I don’t clear my email especially STW so looks like you’re mistaken. I’ve looked further still and never even issued you a warning. 🤷🏻♂️
Actually while you are on, can I just ask why you came into a thread about members past feeling the need to try and call me out?
don’t email members
Isn’t snapchat for those type of pictures?
Not an easy job being a mod but some are better than others.
And some aren't even declared as mods....
🙊
Isn’t snapchat for those type of pictures?
😂
Actually while you are on, can I just ask why you came into a thread about members past feeling the need to try and call me out?
Don’t flatter yourself, I initially made a point about Jamba and that I was pinged by you. It was because I called him Jambaliar after he claimed that Clinton had had a stroke.
So why was it necessary to make a false claim or ironically a lie?
Wasn’t a false claim or a lie,
16/10/2016
Yup I can see warnings issued you did not receive a warning or an email from me. It’s Ok you can apologise for being mistaken.
You will be waiting a while
That’s fine you continue with your disbelief but best you refrain from making false claims in the future
In an attempt to get the thread back on the rails: I also miss Emsz (sp?). She had a kind spirit, and often brought some human perspective to our arguments and discussions.
Anyone remember her? I asked about her a couple of years back, and I think she explained that she had a new partner who encouraged her to spend less time on here, implying that maybe she got a life. (I don't know why anyone would want to do that! 😉 )
Yeah - I remember emsz. Always brought a different pov.
Foxychick - bumped into her at SITS that year the mud was bad and there wasn't a spare mech/mech hanger to be found.
Sorry guys.
SteveM - although he made a brief appearance
MattL
AndyA
Dave
Benji
I could go on there’s many a member past who have long gone from here who I’ve become very good friends with that if probably have never met otherwise, some for almost 20 years now
