"Let them Heat Lake…"
priceless. [for him no doubt]
Even some Tory MPs accept that there is no justification for hanging on to stolen property acquired when Greece was under foreign occupation.
We share their treasures with the world, and the world comes to the UK to see them.
That has to be the worse excuse. The idea that Greece won't share her treasures with the world and let people come to see them is of course absurd.
Rishi mate, If you go on a Greek holiday this year, don't be surprised if the waiter takes a piss in your salad.
That has to be the worse excuse. The idea that Greece won’t share her treasures with the world and let people come to see them is of course absurd.
Q: Why are there pyramids in both Egypt and South America?
A: Because they were too heavy to carry back to the British museum. Boom boom!
Deltapoll, which tends to be more generous to the Tories than most pollsters, has just released its latest poll which was taken over the last 4 days, it gives Labour a 23% lead over the Tories.
https://twitter.com/DeltapollUK/status/1635226204155576320
With the disastrous handling of the Gary Lineker tweet, and growing opposition from Tory MPs, I don't think the "Stop The Boats" campaign is quite panning out as Rishi Sunak might have hoped.
With the disastrous handling of the Gary Lineker tweet, and growing opposition from Tory MPs, I don’t think the “Stop The Boats” campaign is quite panning out as Rishi Sunak might have hoped.
I really, really hope so.👍
Little Rishi really is desperate to look the hard man and not the school prefect, isn’t he, bless him?
Less immigrants, more guns and helicopters and explodey things! Ggggrrrrrr
https://twitter.com/rishisunak/status/1635252482254200837?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
… and flags! Lots more flags!! AND CAPITAL LETTERS IN BOLD TYPE!!!
Not so sure if this'll be a vote winner for Rishi McBoatface either.
Predictably, the DUP have said they reject sunak's 'windsor agreement'.
Democratic party? Only when it works in their favour.
So where does that leave us?
Well, the deal can still be voted through, as it is not dependent on DUP support in the House of Commons, but DUP sign-up is key to their re-engagement with the Stormont Parliament, which in turn is a central plank of the Good Friday Agreement.
The central problem (apart from Brexit itself) is that the DUP no longer has a majority at Stormont and is looking for reasons to chuck its toys out of the pram and not have to work with a Sinn Fein majority. Unfortunately, dissolving the assembly and holding fresh elections will not fix this, as the DUP will still win a similar number of seats, and won't want to power-share as a minority party.
Indeed. The DUP will continue to shit the bed because they can't get their tiny little minds around the fact that demographics and their own behavoir has now brought to an end what they considered their god-given right to executive power.
Government in Norn Ireland cannot resume until they grow up a bit and acknowledge that that's how democracy works
I wouldn't hold your breath
As for Rishi's deal, labour will support it, so for the first time in a very long time when it comes to Brexit, the country isn't being held to ransom by a small coterie of absolute headbangers in the DUP/ERG. Expect roars of impotent rage from the usual suspects and lots of talk of traitors and betrayal
Both martinhutch and binners have covered what my response to molgrips would have been.
DUP influence and support is declining so all they can do is attempt to block whilst claiming they are being constructive.
Donaldson and his fellow travellers couldn't spell democratic or constructive or collaborate; as for behaving democratically, constructively or collaboratively...
They have failed to understand and accept that the majority in NI don't want what they're offering.
They are delivering their own demise.
Predictably, the DUP have said they reject sunak’s ‘windsor agreement’.
Anyone actually care? I know I don't. 🤷♂️
Anyone actually care? I know I don’t
There's a few thousand bereaved and injured folk who probably aren't keen to have Northern Irish issues potentially escalate back to what they were on the 70s/80s due to idiots ignoring the importance of the GFA 🤷♂️
The thing is, defence spending itself isn't automatically a bad idea- we've seen that in teh last few years I think. It's just, it tends to be spent on vanity projects, flag-shagging delusions of power, polaris replacement replacements, and budgetary black holes, while the basics are cut to the bone. Spending money on the basics creates more jobs and is easier to keep that money in teh UK economy, but it doesn't let you cosplay on an aircraft carrier and it's not as good for landing that post-goverment job at BAE
Also the DUP will continue to boycott Stormont to the detriment of the population there
With the Beeb reporting av incomes down by £11000 since 2008, mortgages and rents up, biggest drop in standard of living in the next two years in recorded history, predicted rising immigration, the possibility of the blonde bloater being let off the hook and presenting a challenge, shit pumped everywhere, it doesn't look all that promising for fishy Rishi.
They have failed to understand and accept that the majority in NI don’t want what they’re offering.
They have been very successful in delivering for themselves what the majority in NI don’t want.
Don’t underestimate their goal led politics… or what their obstinance has delivered for them, no matter how NI votes.
Reform UK are rasing their heads, the political giant, Ann Widdecombe, has announced they are not going to stand any candidates down this time.
That's the nail in the Tory coffin.
The ERG (loons) have said that parts of the windsor agreement are '...practically useless'.
That, combined with the DUP's rejection, forces sunak into taking a decision he probably hoped wouldn't be necessary - ignore them and push on or offer some sort of compromise.
Can't imagine that either fill him with joy.
so for the first time in a very long time when it comes to Brexit, the country isn’t being held to ransom by a small coterie of absolute headbangers in the DUP/ERG.
Not for this vote maybe, but Rish! might be in for a rough ride on the next vote where he doesn't have support from the opposition...
“The thing is, defence spending itself isn’t automatically a bad idea- we’ve seen that in teh last few years I think. It’s just, it tends to be spent on vanity projects, ….but it doesn’t let you cosplay on an aircraft carrier”
The new QE class aircraft carriers were procured under the last Labour govt - albeit in full knowledge there wouldn’t be any planes to fly off them after they entered service.
If the carriers are a “vanity project” (look how much the world has changed in the last 13 months…) then the pursuit of vanity can only be lodged at the door of the then Labour government.
look how much the world has changed in the last 13 months
I've looked and seen that in the last 13 months Russia apparently can't comprehensively defeat its much smaller and weaker nextdoor neighbour.
The only thing that has changed imo is my perception of how powerful militarily Russia is - a lot less than I thought.
What does tell us about whether aircraft carriers are vanity projects or not?
What areas of the world does the UK have to reach to defend the British Isles that can't be reached from UK bases?
Aircraft carriers are not needed by any country in the world to defend itself from attack. They are used to project an image of power with a global reach, and wage aggressive wars in far off distance lands.
those sunlit uplands looking a long long way away
I thought we'd been assured that inflation would be back down to 'only' 9.9%
More importantly, food inflation (which obviously impacts the poorest the hardest) is presently 18% and rising
I'm sure Rishi will take credit for the rise in inflation in the same way he's been doing for the recent fall.
Truss voting against NI deal too 🙄
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Truss voting against NI deal too 🙄
I think most of the country would agree that whatever Truss says or does, everyone else should always do the polar opposite!
I’m sure both Johnson and Truss have clear plans for an alternative for NI, and aren’t just stirring it up for Sunak & Hunt and trying to look like heroes to the party members who elected them both and rejected both the current inhabitants of Downing Street.
Can anyone think of a reason why Rishi Sunak would decide to publish his tax returns at this exact moment?
*scratches head*
Seems a really inconvenient moment with all the other stuff happening in the HOC.
Weird choice anyway. If there's dirt in it, probably in time for the morning editions, and would do his 'friend' Boris a favour by knocking him off the front pages.
Now, if Sunak has paid over £1m in tax over the last 3 years... Imagine how much he should have paid if he was one of us Plebs unable to pay expensive accountants to duck and dive taxes?😉
I wish I could pay my PAYE taxes at the rate the Prime Minister is paying his taxation. Don't we all wish for a 20% tax rate on all income? A few years ago my tax rate was 51%. I think this will backfire on him as neither him nor his wife appear to be paying their dues. I would, however, imagine the paltry PM salary is PAYE.
I’m just waiting for him to try and justify it by commenting on the amount of VAT he has to pay on the cost of heating his swimming pool
I need to marry an extremely rich heiress whose father has a crap IT services company. And likes pubs and football.
An expert was on tv simply stated that the tax system in the UK favours the highly wealthy as much of their money is in capital gains?
Sounds depressingly plausible.
Either way, every time he says his much he is helping people I just want to bend down and flick him in the eye.
Had to have a conversion today with my lad to tell him that I won't be able to help him (and by extension my grandson) very much financially for a good few months for "reasons". He never asks for help, he hates it but I know he needs the help.
He and his partner are both working full time but struggling. It's shit.
Earlier today he had to pay £50 to see a dentist as he can't get seen on the NHS anywhere. Infected gum where a wisdom tooth is booming through. Going to be another £250 of the infection doesn't clear up and out needs removing. He just hasn't got the money for that so I'll just have to find the money to help.
Just to be crystal clear- I know bloody well that we are *still* in a far better position than millions of other poor bloody sods out there!
pretty sure this is an outlier but !
I'm not sure it is. A post-budget Survation poll suggests that voters weren't hugely impressed with the budget.
https://www.survation.com/post-budget-polling-shows-conservatives-failing-to-turn-fortunes-around/
Yesterday's announcement of an increase in inflation won't help the Tories either, even if it is likely to be temporary.
I’m not sure it is. A post-budget Survation poll suggests that voters weren’t hugely impressed with the budget.
Giving a massive tax break to the very richest in the country, while everyone else sees their real incomes fall, isn't a vote-winner after all?
Who knew?
The only folk only paying 22% tax on income are those with a high percentage of unearned income or those working part-time on the minimum wage – the rest are paying far, far more.
The only thing I will say in defence of the low CGT rate is that it's levied on the numerical increase without any allowance for inflation.
If your 100k asset is worth 110k after a year, you haven't actually made anything at all in real terms with inflation at 10%. So taxing the 10k on the basis that it's a "gain" is manifestly unfair.
(taxing wealth on the other hand would be eminently reasonable).
There used to be indexation relief for CGT, which made the calculations a pain in the neck if you'd bought and sold a particular share multiple times over a number of years. but was at least rational.
