that horribly patronising and condescending tone of his…
But he dropped his ‘t’s just like one of those northern chappies. Next time he’ll be wearing a cloth cap. Well, cashmere cap.
Sunak would only really be bothered by potholes/ train links if they somehow got in the way of his RAF supplied Flying Uber... but they don't so it's just concerns for little people. Not him.
Just when I though I couldn't detest a tory leader more than our dear Bojo, along comes this absolute turd. I mean where do they get so much moral vacuum from? Never has this amount of selfishness been contained in so few with so much power.
He is literally pointing a flamethrower at the future and saying whatevs
Cashmere?
Far too common for rish!
Cashmere is probably just what he's called his private lagoon in the Caymans, after realising that lake Windermere wasn't for sale.
Now being announced that he is going to restrict councils ability to have 20mph limits, ltz etc etc
He really is a shill for fossil fuels
Bus lanes, eh? Stopping them has to be the priority of any common sense government.
😔
He's expected to come out against the 15-minute cities concept later on today as well.
He'll have a slot on GB News before long, full on conspiracy theory shite alongside Neil Oliver.
The guy is getting increasingly dangerous now, this is full on scorched earth stuff. Wreck everything, leave Labour with a total mess they'll be unable to sort out then blame them for everything.
18-24 voting intention is pretty clear. Extending vote to 16 or 17 year olds would take it further I assume (ie bring more voters on this split in)
LAB: 69%
CON: 1%
LDM: 9%
RFM: 1%
GRN: 11%
SNP: 6%
Elsewhere:
when asked about the behaviours of Dorries, Truss, etc. - 'I'm not focused on the past, my focus is on the future'
And shortly after, on whether HS2 is going to be scrapped 'I'm not speculating on future things'
I was thinking exactly the same thing @crazy-legs.
Between him and Cruella, it’s like they asked the GB News viewers for a wish list
It’s just total desperation from them now, but they can still do an awful lot of damage in the 14-15 months they’ve potentially got left.
They seem absolutely intent on turning back the clock on decades of hard won social and environmental progress
I suspect the party conference next week will be an exercise in competitive far right lunacy
IMO its two things. Bolstering their core support to prevent wipeout and taking away any attraction the core vote has for far right parties by taking the far right policies. they are afraid of an attack from Farage and co from the right
I wonder what the 18-24s are seeing in Labour that I am missing? Not surprised about the 1% for tory as that is all they have seen in their lifetimes really so why would they vote for more of that.
As always, disappointing to see such low Green numbers as they are the only progressive party out of all the choices.
CON: 1%
Well, there's something for Sunak and his "long term solutions for a brighter future". Younger voters reject his solutions and want a brighter future without the Tories in it.
taking away any attraction the core vote has for far right parties by taking the far right policies.
That's what lead us to Brexit - the Conservative Party moving further and further right to basically become UKIP because they were terrified of UKIP's populist policies taking votes from them.
And the far right are catastrophically stupid and dangerous people.
trash the planet bounce was short lived
What's the point in being a populist who's unpopular?
I wonder what the 18-24s are seeing in Labour that I am missing
The same as the appeal for most people, I suppose… how can my vote be most effectively be used to get rid of the Tories?
There’s a lot of young, politically active Labour Party members getting things done at local level though. Our local Labour councillor who’s a great bloke and is proving incredibly effective at getting some great stuff done, is 24.
This is where the next crop of Labour MPs are going to come from
I dread to think, though can readily picture, the kind of 24 year old attracted to the present Tory party
Just when I though I couldn’t detest a tory leader more than our dear Bojo, along comes this absolute turd.
Sunak really does make stomach churn - he’s a vacuous self-serving out of touch right wing Kunt of the highest order, only really beaten by Truss (Braverman is just utterly pathetic in her attempts to run round the place looking hard like the pathetic schoolyard bully she is).
UTTERLY ODIOUS THE LOT OF THEM.
He gets worse by the day. He is worse than Johnson.
This latest pro motorist stuff is pathetic.
Talking about "management of roads" in the same breath as patching potholes!
Banning 20mph speed limits.
Banning ANPR cameras.
In one way it's a good thing, as I think it's more nails in their coffins.
I wonder what the 18-24s are seeing in Labour that I am missing? Not surprised about the 1% for tory as that is all they have seen in their lifetimes really so why would they vote for more of that.
I doubt it's anything much more complicated than: "What's the opposite of the Tories (that I hate)? Ah, Labour. OK, I'll vote for them." I don't think there's any particular reason to believe the 18-24s have any more nuanced view of politics than any other age group, just that they are starting from a different position.
I suspect the party conference next week will be an exercise in competitive far right lunacy
Yep - most of Braverman's stuff is relatively easy to counter because most of it is illegal or at least borderline so the lawyers can just tell her she's an idiot and can't do that. Although I fully expect an upgrade to the Rwanda policy where the flight is on a large bomber and they just open the bomb bay doors somewhere over the Bay of Biscay - I'm sure that'll go down well with the anti-immigrant lot.
Sunak though has the ability to do a lot of damage to local authorities in a very short time. They've already had to go through onerous processes to use ANPR cameras, enforce parking etc locally, they've already been told to manage their own traffic and air pollution issues (God forbid a tangible centralised policy should be published...) and they face all that being taken back off them.
as Sunak once again ignores the question he’s actually been asked and starts spouting his usual utter bollocks in that horribly patronising and condescending tone of his
The weird things about the whole "we might cancel HS2 to Manchester" bit of a mess was that it was briefed to the media by No10 at the beginning of the week. This was their own doing, they are the direct cause of making Rishi look and sound like a duplicitous shit.
Owen Jones can be a bit of a dick sometimes (though his books are good), but he’s absolutely on the money in todays Guardian with this article
Whether or not Suella Braverman becomes the next Tory leader, her extreme ideas rule the party
And it also answers the question I was pondering about her speech… it would have been signed off by number ten, so we can only assume that that cloud of toxic guff is now actually the official government stance
This was their own doing, they are the direct cause of making Rishi look and sound like a duplicitous shit.
To be fair, they've not managed to hide it, so might as well embrace it!
I wonder what the 18-24s are seeing in Labour that I am missing?
I think despite what most politicians of either stripe will tell you, most GE come down to either "more of the same" or "time for a change" I think everybody has come to the conclusion that it's definitely time for a change. Labour (of course) will hail it as the result of their pledges and manifestos, but the vast majority of folks probably wouldn't know either way which policy came from which party and don't particularly care
The weird things about the whole “we might cancel HS2 to Manchester” bit of a mess was that it was briefed to the media by No10 at the beginning of the week.
‘Kite-flying’ was something Cummings used to do all the time to see how a potential policy went down, then either go ahead with it or row back, depending on the reaction
Rishi and the people around him are so stupid that they’re ‘kite-flying’ a policy that is clearly already decided and set in stone
They can’t even get that right and now spend their time ineffectively trying to deflect questions about a policy they themselves (unofficially) made public. Idiots!
most of Braverman’s stuff is relatively easy to counter because most of it is illegal
No-one GAS about "laws" and "facts" in this government.
I dread to think, though can readily picture, the kind of 24 year old attracted to the present Tory party
At the grammar school I went to in late 80s (tory party no better than now) there were loads of 16-18 year old tories - they were ****ing awful people.
Somewhat unsurprisingly, the northern comp I went to at the same time, which included a large intake of (now unemployed) miners kids, didn't have any. Declaring support of the Tory party (not that I think for a second anyone did) would have had you in line for one almighty kicking.
I hope the Tories enjoyed their brief Brexit and Corbyn induced dalliance in these areas as they'll all be out this time and they know it
18-24 voting intention is pretty clear. Extending vote to 16 or 17 year olds would take it further I assume (ie bring more voters on this split in)
LAB: 69%
CON: 1%
LDM: 9%
RFM: 1%
GRN: 11%
SNP: 6%
But as we all know the young vote is very small compared to the pensioners. Hopefully this time they will come out and vote, learning the lesson of the Brexit vote, but it's not a given.
This latest pro motorist stuff is pathetic.
Talking about “management of roads” in the same breath as patching potholes!
Banning 20mph speed limits.
Banning ANPR cameras.
In one way it’s a good thing, as I think it’s more nails in their coffins.
It's going down really well with the users of places like Pistonheads and, surprisingly, Mumsnet. We'd be absolutely fools if we were to think that the Tories are finished at the next election, they've stacked the system in their favour and know what buttons to press and when to get the result they want. Don't forget they've still got 12 months or so to see what works and what doesn't before they have to call a General Election.
Don't ever underestimate the stupidity and short-mindedness of the general public.
Don’t ever underestimate the stupidity and short-mindedness of the general public
This.
Remember labour need a lead of 10% or so just for parity in seats. I think the odds of labour having a working majority are not great.
Labours problem is that the policy positions they have taken to reclaim the red wall is completly offputtig in other parts of the country. Also the refusal to work with other parties will cost them.
Don’t ever underestimate the stupidity and short-mindedness of the general public
While this is true, don't forget that all these new 'Red Wall' Tories are sat on paper-thin majorities.
If, as trailed, Rishi announces these measures on Monday then it'll be interesting to see the reaction he gets from Councils (Tory as well as labour) and the likes of the Police Federation. I imagine it'll got down like a cup of cold sick with all of them
Populism is ok when your proposals are popular with a majority, when its just elderly racists, not so much
Everything any of them says now has the stench of utter desperation all over it
Also the refusal to work with other parties will cost them.
That'll be out of the window in milliseconds in the event of them not having a working majority
They will work with tories before they will with SNP who are still going to be the 3rd largest block of seats.
Whst we see in Scotland shows that. Labour and Tory in coalition's on many councils and they have a labour tory pact for GEs
Also the refusal to work with other parties will cost them.
I think that the stated policy of the Lib Dems currently as well. As @binners suggests I think we'll see the working definition of a millisecond if either party suddenly realise they may have to change it
They will work with tories before they will with SNP
Given that both the Tories and Labour are strongly against a independent Scotland, that's not a massive surprise though. and the SNP failure to actually achieve it (along with some fairly bodged policies; drug deaths, education, waiting lists) and on-going criminal investigations into it's finances; I can see the SNP losing seats in the coming election.
Remember labour need a lead of 10% or so just for parity in seats
Its not as simple as that, fptp means that its really hard to extrapolate vote share out
more people voted for Johnson in 2019 (43.6%) than Blair in 1997 (43.2%), but the Tories ended up with 53 less seats than Labour did in the famous landslide (365 vs 418)
Labours problem is that the policy positions they have taken to reclaim the red wall is completly offputtig in other parts of the country.
It's offputting to you. The opinion polls show you are wrong.
I think that the stated policy of the Lib Dems currently as well. As @binners suggests I think we’ll see the working definition of a millisecond if either party suddenly realise they may have to change it
There will enough independent voices hopefully campaigning hard for tactical voting when any election comes along to get the message across. Perhaps we should all be out distributing leaflets if our constituencies have this potential?
Don’t ever underestimate the stupidity and short-mindedness of the general public
I'm fairly confident that when weighing up their priorities the voting public will decide that being thousands of pounds worse off due to the cost of living, energy prices and interest rates will be far more important than being able to drive above the speed limit. If Sunak wants to focus all his energy on the deranged GB News UKIP gammon minority he'll do about as well as Farage did in the election.
Indeed. We've a winter to get through yet where peoples energy bills are going to be even more astronomical than last year, inflation is still rampant and the cost of living crisis is only going to get worse.
Absolutely nothing looks like its going to improve for anyone but those already rich mates of Rishi's
I doubt being able to drive at 30mph instead of 20mph past a school is going to swing it for anybody but Jeremy Clarkson
let them get on with their ludicrous nonsense. They really are just clutching at straws now. When your entire electoral strategy is based on holding a constituency by the skin of their teeth, where they previously had a massive majority, then you know you're ****ed!
I admire your optimism.
Same - I think it'll have a noticeable effect with the very noisy anti-LTN, anti-ULEZ minority who will suddenly think that their tactics of vandalism, doxxing, harassment and threats are somehow valid means of getting their opinion across and will re-double their efforts.
Look, Sunak says they're terrible and the motorist must take priority!
The poor councils (mostly Labour ones...) who've already had to endure horrific backlash, nasty campaigns and sockpuppet accounts harassing them for minor traffic control schemes are now going to be faced with more of the same.
And we're SO far off doing what is actually necessary to curtail car dominance, to cut emissions etc that when stricter measures inevitably do have to be brought in, it's yet more effort to push forward.
Plenty of Conservative councils have helped build a consensus towards safer roads and improved public transport, walking and cycling space as well... but Sunak sees a wedge issue and he's going for it. Next local elections are May 2024... that won't be his priority, flipping the polls before a general election is. Scare stories about people ripping out your gas boiler, banning your car in less than ten years, forcing you to car share... all this made up shit will be used to try and swing things. Saving you from things that aren't happening. Making it "us against the lefty green lobby" is obviously on the cards now.
[ an example : https://www.cornwall.gov.uk/transport-parking-and-streets/roads-highways-and-pavements/20mph-speed-limits/ ]
Tax levels in the UK are at their highest since records began 70 years ago
Good old Tories, the party of tax cuts presiding over the highest taxes ever and services in the worst position anyone can remember.
I was a bit on the fence with 20mph limits, seeing as Rishi wants to ban them I'm now pro.
Yep, higher taxes would be fine if we were given better public services but that certainly doesn't appear to be the case. Obvious question for Starmer is why although we know the answer (pandemic, war in Ukraine but definitely not Brexit)
I wonder if anyone's pointed out that the better the public transport, the fewer cars on the roads for the die-hard motorists?
That is to be proven though isn't it. How much better would it need to be for people to use it instead of their car. My guess is a shit load better, which is never going to happen.
If there was a bus every hour from outside my house to close to work I would probably still drive as it takes 15 minutes instead 45, don't have to wait around in cold and rain and dark in Winter, don't have to get whatever coughs and colds everyone on the bus has etc, etc.
And that is from someone who would support better public transport.
If there was a bus every hour from outside my house to close to work I would probably still drive as it takes 15 minutes instead 45, don’t have to wait around in cold and rain and dark in Winter, don’t have to get whatever coughs and colds everyone on the bus has etc, etc.
Sure, but what if the bus was 15 mins? What if it were 20, or 10?
Sure, but what if the bus was 15 mins? What if it were 20, or 10?
No bus stops for 10 miles? Let's be realistic, there will always be many bus stops and never be able to offer the most direct route from A to B to suit everyone who is using it.
Or are you suggesting buses drive around at 90 mph on empty roads, HSn of buses?
I'm just saying what if? I'm talking about what we would need not what we can do today.
there will always be many bus stops
Not necessarily. There's a bus from where I live to town which is about 7.5 miles directly, it takes about 50 mins and is every 10 or 15 mins I think through the day. We're at the very end of the route. However they also put on another bus that goes around picking up people from just this neighbourhood then goes straight to town without stopping. It only runs at rush hours and it takes about 20 mins which is about the same as the drive, probably quicker at rush hour.
The thing that prevents busses going point to point rather than round the houses is money. And that can be obtained, with the political will.
I can drive to the nearest station, park, get the train and be at my desk in the same time and for the same cost as driving in and parking - coming home is quicker.
More importantly, I don’t have the mental angst of traffic at either end of my day.
If we can get buses to offer a similar service (trainlines being fixed) we could sort this....
There’s a bus from where I live to town which is about 7.5 miles directly, it takes about 50 mins
That's about 10mph isn't it.
I’m just saying what if? I’m talking about what we would need not what we can do today.
You are dreaming if you think even with political will a bus that goes directly from my house to my workplace 10 miles away more quickly than my car.
Buses are great for people that use them and better bus services would help those people but expecting everyone to stop using their cars because buses are improved a bit is again just not reality.
but expecting everyone to stop using their cars because buses are improved a bit is again just not reality.
Again, we're into that all or nothing argument. Make buses good enough that more people can use them, and there will be less congestion for those who can't or won't. Did Paretto die in vain?
I wonder if anyone’s pointed out that the better the public transport, the fewer cars on the roads for the die-hard motorists?
Don't start using fact and logic in these arguments.
The 'motorist' lobby are using emotion, erosion of freedoms, prejudice and conservatism (small c) as their stance.
The two don't match.
Buses are great for people that use them
You mean poor people? I suppose Sunak's onto something when he talks about driving and 'British Values'. There's no better way of looking down on someone than judging them by their need to get a bus.
I've said it many times but there's a very simple solution to getting people on public transport. Make it free of charge.
You are dreaming if you think even with political will a bus that goes directly from my house to my workplace 10 miles away more quickly than my car.
You've completely missed my point. I'm talking hypothetically, not your actual job right now.
1) Would you take a bus to work if it were quicker than a car?
2) Would you take a bus to work if it were the same time as a car?
3) Would you take a bus to work if it were just a bit longer than a car?
I’ve said it many times but there’s a very simple solution to getting people on public transport. Make it free of charge.
Yes and no - surprisingly, financial cost is not the deciding factor. It's certainly a major factor and the recent national cut to bus fares (well, most bus fares) in England has really helped get people back onto them but "cost" can be weighed up in lots of ways. The basic financial cost, time (it takes 45 mins on the bus vs 10 mins to drive), reliability (that's a huge one, it's no good having free public transport if 30% of busses are going to be randomly cancelled throughout the day) and issues such as trip-chaining (where you're coming home from work via picking the kids up, doing the shopping etc).
Sunak though is just looking at the numbers and going "most people drive so bollocks to everyone that doesn't, we'll focus on the majority" which, as a transport policy, is rather like a health policy that says "most people eat unhealthily so bollocks to all the healthy ones, we'll continue to serve up discount fast food and sugary drinks".
I’m talking hypothetically
Well start talking realistically and not just dreaming stuff up. No I would not take a bus to work unless there was a bus every 10 minutes and each of those buses were a direct route to my house that would take the same time.
If I am paying for a car already I will use it rather than a bus. I am probably not in the minority with that.
You mean poor people?
Nope, guess you do though. I mean people who just use the bus today for whatever reason. My mum for example uses the bus a lot and she is not poor.
I used to use the bus to get to work when my wife needed the car (she had a worse commute than me - mine was 1 bus for 7 miles and a 3 mile walk or 2 buses and 1/2 mile walk - both took same time so I walked for the exercise.
£5 for the 7 mile journey wasn't great though and that was years ago but that all stopped when the 07:15 bus was change to be the 11:00 bus which is now the only bus of the day)
I can drive to the nearest station, park, get the train and be at my desk in the same time and for the same cost as driving in and parking – coming home is quicker.
When I’m working in Manchester City centre I can get the bus from the bottom of my road and be in town (14 miles away) in 45 minutes. You’d have to be mental to drive in and try and park. I reckon it’d take twice as long. Fares in Manchester are now a maximum of 2 quid under Andy Burnham’s new Beeline scheme, so 4 quid a day for me. Brilliant!
This direct bus service was established after serious effort by our last Labour MP, who lost his seat at the last election to a Boris-cheerleading Brexiteer * who has done the square root of * all for his constituency in the last 4 years. With his majority of 100 votes, he’ll soon be gone. Thank god!
The 45 minutes journey time is due to bus lanes, which I believe Rishi now wants to get rid of in part of his latest ‘motorist-friendly’ bollocks.
Why have better public transport when everyone can sit in stationary traffic instead because somehow thats better?
It’s absolute madness that makes no sense to anyone other than the ‘I am absolutely determined to sit in my 4x4 come hell or high water’ brigade, who are exactly the people he’s courting with this nonsense
Well start talking realistically and not just dreaming stuff up.
What's the point? We already know the bus doesn't work for you right now in the real world. There's nothing to discuss there. You seem to think I am having a go at you.
I was trying to understand your attitude towards public transport as a general concept, because that is of course a key part of the problem we all face.
Sunak though is just looking at the numbers and going “most people drive so bollocks to everyone that doesn’t, we’ll focus on the majority” which, as a transport policy, is rather like a health policy that says “most people eat unhealthily so bollocks to all the healthy ones, we’ll continue to serve up discount fast food and sugary drinks”.
Most people are well, so what do we need hospitals for?
Honestly, he's now only one or two steps away from claiming a cabal of paedos and Jews is secretly drinking children's blood at north London parties, or that 5G is being used for mind control. Someone should ask him whether he believes 9/11 was an inside job.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1707647727385890956
I live in a part of Cardiff that was not planned with 15 mins in mind, and it's quite shit. I can buy a sofa at the retail park, or go to a big supermarket, but not much else. It's got nothing to do with public transport or cycling, it's simply a case of there being very little worth travelling to in this area, or the next two areas towards town.
Absolutely nothing looks like its going to improve for anyone but those already rich mates of Rishi’s
Well indeed but like characters from Tess of the Durbevilles the great British voting public imagine themselves one step from aristocracy and routinely vote to advance the cause of their imagined peers. Idiots.
Not shocked to see 15 minute cities as a talking point, it's particularly invasive and aggressive brain cancer and that makes it ideal for them. But it's still depressing. Sunak doesn't believe a word of it, but that's almost beside the point- how insane it is to have a prime minister, the dude actually supposedly running the country, spreading conspiracy theories about what the people who run the country are doing?
In the end it's just another case of "we have given up so completely that we've forgotten we haven't already lost" and he's coming out with wilderness-politician attack lines. But it's dangerous stuff, this, the rate it's been picked up by the easily gulled and the not-entirely-well should be worrying leaders not making them think "this looks like fun".
Not shocked to see 15 minute cities as a talking point, it’s particularly invasive and aggressive brain cancer
Totally agree. I blame the 4G masts.
I was trying to understand your attitude towards public transport as a general concept, because that is of course a key part of the problem we all face.
Public transport is a good concept, my comment around dreaming is that getting it to the point where it was actually great in practice for everybody everywhere is not going to happen, i.e. which political party would even bother trying (Greens probably best hope but they are still at their 5% mark)
It works well in towns. Where my mum lives there are loads of bus stops and buses to get wherever she wants and all at a low cost with things like £2 a day tickets and the like. She also lives in a place with the worst traffic I have to deal with outside of big cities so why are people not getting on those £2 a day buses with good service?
Even dreaming about it, how amazingly much better would that already good bus service need to be to get all those people sat in traffic out of their cars?
I can only see it happening if cars were banned from all towns and surrounding areas and the bus was the only option which I would support but can't see that being a vote winner in this democratic country of ours.
He's deployed the "war on motorists" phrase this morning
Why is this phrase never challenged with "motorists killed xxx people this year...who is really waging a war?"
I detest that lobbyists are using this ridiculous over the top rhetoric in order to distract from the very real violence their own industry and pet interest perpetuates on society
Public transport is a good concept, my comment around dreaming is that getting it to the point where it was actually great in practice for everybody everywhere is not going to happen,
We live on a small road about 10 miles from the nearest shop. It’s not likely that a bus service would give us the possibility of replacing our car. On the other hand if public transport made cities less horrible as a result of cars, maybe we’d be tempted to move back to one.
Most people are well, so what do we need hospitals for?
With suggestions like that i reckon youre a shoe in for a job in the policy unit.
@binners those would be the bus lanes that constantly disappear, especially where they are needed, are only in operation for parts of the day (which varies from road to road) and makes it difficult for motorists to turn left att busy junctions as buses undertake you so blocking you from turning left. Yeah great success, all they did was make congestion worse on main arterial routes. I could have accepted the increase in congestion if the bus lanes worked properly but they dont. The buses are good if you work in the city centre, the X43 is definitely a good service and makes sense as city centre parking isstupidly expensive. However if you dont live within walking distance the route or dont work in the city centre they are next to useless. I worked out near the Etihad Stadium for 7 years, took an hour to drive (if i was lucky), public transport would have been 3 to 4 hours each way. For balance my wife did use the bus when she worked in the city centre.
Sunak though is just looking at the numbers and going “most people drive so bollocks to everyone that doesn’t, we’ll focus on the majority” which, as a transport policy, is rather like a health policy that says “most people eat unhealthily so bollocks to all the healthy ones, we’ll continue to serve up discount fast food and sugary drinks”.
That's actually a fair summary of the current government's anti-obesity policy.
Bus lanes do work. Thats why busses get around cities without getting caught so much in congestion . When were you last on a bus?
What you mean is that by taking a little space from the car driver for the bus passanger it interferes with your godgiven right to drive where and when you want want without plebs getting in your way
Busses put more folk in a given area of road thus reducing congestion
I work in Manchester,I'm 10 miles out to the south East. Walk, train, walk takes about an hour (40 minutes walking) - £7.90. Bus, nope, would need two and a walk, so £4 each way £8 and way over an hour. Car and cheap parking at work takes about 45-60 minutes, daily cost £6-8 depending on car used (parking £4).
I cycle it in 45 minutes all weathers, and that's despite crap cycling infrastructure for about half my ride.
I know there's a specific thread but, living in Wales, being a cyclist with two toddlers who love cycling the 20mph thing was very welcome, not that anyone's sticking to it yet from what I've seen.
The bonus is it seems to have totally pissed off the inconsiderate / hard of thinking Brexit demographic, so again I'm absolutely all for it.
Incredibly depressing the next election is going to be fought over this demographic, heaven forbid there's anything progressive to happen in the next decade or so
To say Brexit demographic is grossly inaccurate and unfair.
It’s not just that nothing progressive will happen, it’s that they literally want to tear everything up and set fire to it all. Decades of progress torched in a desperate attempt to cling to power by appealing to the ‘I’m alright, so **** everyone else’ brigade
The article by Johnathan Freedland in this mornings Guardian is, as usual, absolutely on the money, particularly it’s conclusion… that the Tory party’s nationalist populist metamorphosis into UKIP is now total under Sunak
It’s going to be quite some achievement after 13 years of these bastards, and particularly given his 2 predecessors, but Sunaks speech on Monday is going to be the most depressing yet.
It looks like it’s just going to be stuffed with tinfoil-helmet conspiracy theories and ‘anti-woke’ propaganda that he’s literally making up as he goes along
I’ve got news for Rishi Sunak: he no longer leads the conservative party
@TJ you've completely misinterpreted my post, I'm broadly in favour of bus lanes. What I dont like is the piecemeal implementation in Manchester which is like a lot of cycle lanes, they disappear where they are most needed and it gets a bit difficult to design, doesnt help the buses and makes car drivers lives more dificult. That and part time bus lanes, 7am to 10am and 4pm to 7pm FFS, if you're going to do it, do it properly, 24/7 or don't bother. The whole approach to vehicle travel in Manchester has made the congestion worse and encouraged people to use rat runs through the residential streets. Bring on the LTNs and enforced 20 zones but also accept public transport isnt a panecea for everyone and designate certain routes as arteries so they flow. The stop start nature of traffic in Manchester must be terrible for pollution.