But there aren't enough Tories to carry out enough exit polls in enough places to be confident about anything like that. Especially when EVERY opinion poll in the run up has her trailing by a huge amount.
If a majority of Londonderry elect Hall, they frankly get what they deserve, she is patently not up to the task, not to mention a genuinely and demonstrably nasty human being.
I hate my mobile.
I wont edit it, I'll leave it there. 😉
CCHQ apparently chipper tonight, I’m told.
As the polls close, they’re “utterly convinced” Susan Hall has won London
I suspect that one will soon come back and bite them on the arse
Clutching at straws more like
”Hey, we’ve found some polling that isn’t quite as catastrophic as we expected!”
Anyway, back to where I live…
I’m loving Stan Chows work tonight
We should permanently remove the edit function so that daft typos and predictive text are preserved for the enjoyment of future generations. 🙂
Anyhow, I've just found out they are not even counting the London mayoral votes until Saturday, so I'm off to bed!
But before that, here's the customary weekly clip of a clueless Tory MP having their arse handed to them by a Nobel Prize-winning economist on Question Time.
https://twitter.com/Zero_4/status/1786152092136006074
Especially when EVERY opinion poll in the run up has her trailing by a huge amount.
Not the final Survation poll which I think was yesterday - it gave Khan a ten point lead over Hall. And Survation have a good record.
It could of course work against him as it convinced me, and undoubtedly many others, that it was safe to vote for the Green candidate Garbett.
I am not a big fan of Khan and a narrow victory would be the best result imo as it would keep the Tories out whilst also increase the likelihood that he won't stand again for a fourth term.
First results in from Sunderland and the Tories are down by 17% to virtually nothing and reform are up 17% taking all their previous voters
The result: A massive majority for Labour
A nice, comfortable bit of reading for the little fella
^^ Tories hemorrhaging votes to Reform too.
Good.
If you’re going to waste a vote
It's not a wasted vote - the Green Party is both a serious party and a growing force in London.
If there was a chance of Hall winning I would have voted for Khan. All the polls have been showing a comfortable win for Khan well within the margin of error. I really didn't totally decide until today, I doubt many people waited until the last minute to decide, certainly not enough to change a double digit lead. Although I do know of Muslims who were still in a dilemma today of how they should vote - being the official Labour candidate did Khan no favours.
For the record I voted Green-Communist-Green.
The Tory on BBC, he was on QT I noticed, what a smug pos. Lol
Yeah the general election will be a whole different ballgame. There really appears to be the possibility that the Tories will suffer their worse defeat in 200 years, that would be a massive step forward imo. In contrast a small Labour majority would be a disaster as it would very likely signal another Tory government in about five years time.
Maximising the Labour vote at the general election should be the priority imo. Although many will argue that Labour under Starmer does not deserve that level of support.
I'm certainly worried the Tories could serve only one term in opposition. It's entirely possible with the huge problems Labour face of they win the GE. It won't be turned around in 5 years. I just hope that there is enough positive momentum for voters to keep the faith.
I'm not entirely convinced people have a long enough memory to punish the Tories for a generation, though they absolutely should be.
I'm interested and a bit scared of what the Tory party will morph into after a large election defeat. I can't see much change really, I think they will head ever rightward in the continuing attempt to out Reform, Reform. The trouble with that is they will return to government in this even more extreme state at some point.
It’s not a wasted vote – the Green Party is both a serious party and a growing force in Londo
Not the wasted vote twaddle again.
Imagine voting for a party that doesn't align itself with the Conservative values. Who'd have thought it.
There's a very possibility come the general election that Labour will only serve one term for obvious reasons. It will be well deserved if it happens.
And every Guardian luvvie will be wondering why.
Cynical me reckons it was probably a stage managed “get his name in the news again” stunt.
On the other hand I would've paid money to have been that volunteer who got to tell him that without proper ID he'd wouldn't be able to vote, y'know, because of his own legislation.
The result: A massive majority for Labour
A nice, comfortable bit of reading for the little fella
A little niche, but at our age do what works for you
It’s entirely possible with the huge problems Labour face of they win the GE. It won’t be turned around in 5 years. I just hope that there is enough positive momentum for voters to keep the faith.
This is why Labour need to be offering a big sweeping "generational" vision for the country and not just offering being a bit less shit for 5 years.
30p Lee on R4 now is precious...
Assuming Tories vote numbers dropping through the floor. I'm not as comfortable with celebrations as some. There will be a lot of Tories who haven't voted and will jackboot down the road at a general election because they don't want a repeat. They will go from not voting because of some irksome reasons to voting to stop a Tories loss.
Hopefully still lose massively but they'll be galvanized into action.
So This pretty much maps with nationwide polls (+ a labour boost coz Benton was a tool), reform did well but only just beating the old ukip vote
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1786241810211147867?t=o92ninoGhu7xTfhH2j_qFw&s=19
This is why Labour need to be offering a big sweeping “generational” vision for the country and not just offering being a bit less shit for 5 years.
Indeed, but some honesty will be needed they're not going to undo a decade and a half of Tory terrorism in a single parliament. Their first term will be tough and I wouldn't expect seismic changes immediately.
I do also think people should just temper their GE expectations a little too, these are local elections only, where loyal Tory voters might register their displeasure with a protest vote for a Reform councillor but a fair proportion of those headbangers will stay blue for a GE recognising the impact to their gang if they fully abandon them.
There might be Reform MP's after the next GE, the Tories should be much diminished, but let's not take anything for granted...
There will be a lot of Tories who haven’t voted and will jackboot down the road at a general election because they don’t want a repeat. They will go from not voting because of some irksome reasons to voting to stop a Tories loss.
I was thinking the same. A lot of Reform votes may jump back to Tory for the same reason too
I was thinking the same. A lot of Reform votes may jump back to Tory for the same reason too
And these are the people Labour are running scared of who must be appeased at all costs.
What a time to be alive.
Speaking of ****s, Tory knuckle-dragger Gullis being interviewed and trying to make out this was all fine and part of Rishi’s masterplan was pretty priceless 😂
His masterplan is to become a Silicon Valley tech-bro and make lots of money so his father-in-law won't keep looking at him likes he's a drain on family resources and a waste of space.
So, maybe everything is going according to plan?
Gullis is my hometown MP. I'm going to go and watch the results in person and give him the wave off he deserves when he loses. Genuinely can't wait!
Who's the current no mark on Radio4? Clearly thinks that the Rwanda deportations is the silver bullet that will stop Labour. Like others last night, keeps repeating the "Labour amnesty" line as well.
On the other hand I would’ve paid money to have been that volunteer who got to tell him that without proper ID he’d wouldn’t be able to vote, y’know, because of his own legislation.
Our nasty racist POS forgot his too and was looking for an emergency proxy vote. Tom Hunt is apparently not a details man too!
This is low-grade blue on blue action. I need to see letters going into the ’22 and vicious personal attacks by Tory MPs on Sunak and his family!
thet won't, they know there's no other candidates
instead they'll cling on to whatever victories they get and tell us how they defied expectations, all eyes on the mayors, for them itll all be about Houchen & Street and if turnouts low maybe even Hall!
Our nasty racist POS forgot his too and was looking for an emergency proxy vote. Tom Hunt is apparently not a details man too!
https://twitter.com/Milo_Edwards/status/1785985327569539175?t=KM4XRGJrWvaAz1XjGoKGxg&s=19
There really is something wrong with a lot of them. Like the honeypot nude photo thing a few weeks ago. I'm a nobody and I know if I get a risque photo and a flirty message from an unknown number that it's a scam. How can you potentially be in some national security related role and be so stupid?
The Tory expectation management machine set it's stall out early that it was a poor night for labour if they couldn't win West Midlands and Tees Valley mayors. That's pretty much the best they could come up with. Still plenty of time to see the end result of the votes, but by and large it so far seems to be reflecting what the voting intention polls say, with obvious local nuances. Certainly nothing for the Tories to feel positive about, no closing of gaps with Labour, and generally losing votes to all and sundry.
Indeed, but some honesty will be needed they’re not going to undo a decade and a half of Tory terrorism in a single parliament. Their first term will be tough and I wouldn’t expect seismic changes immediately.
That's the point I was failing to make clearly when I spoke of a generational vision. It will take a term to halt the decline and another term to start to see an improvement.
Despite how it appears, most people aren't stupid and if one candidate says "we have an instant fix" and the other says "things are really bad and we all need to be in it for the long haul" there's a big chunk who will be persuaded by tne honesty. Especially if the phrase "you're not falling for those lying counts again are you?" is added to the posters.
Labour won't be punished for improving things.
I guess the question is how much better than the Tories do voters expect Labour to be.