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the Tory Mayoral candidate that had that amazing picture in the papers when she announced her candidacy.
She was not happy with them choosing the picture that made her look the most unhinged. But they clearly had the measure of her from the off. It's remarkable that THIS is who they chose to fight the most important regional election in England.
Indeed. My “at last something vaguely positive” instantly became me banging on about my confidence in Cameron. 🤣
It occurred to me after it was too late to edit it that my post (previous page) saying that he wasn't doing a bad job as Foreign Secretary could be interpreted the same way.
But it's all relative to the three absolute morons doing the job before him.
It’s remarkable that THIS is who they chose to fight the most important regional election in England.
They're not really doing very well at any of the regional elections. At the moment they don't even have a candidate in Greater Manchester and I doubt they'll get many volounteers to get their arse handed to them by Andy Burnham
I'll quote some of that article for those that won't click on it because it's utterly amazing to read.
It's like a draft idea for the movie, V for Vendetta crossed with 28 Days Later and a little bit of Fallout 3, written by someone heavily influenced by LSD and MAGA.
So today in London apparently:
The video also warned of "squads of Ulez-enforcers dressed in black, faces covered with masks, terrorising communities at the beck and call of their Labour mayor master, who has implemented a tax on driving, forcing people to stay inside or go underground".
"Gripped by the tendrils of rising crime" it continued, "London citizens stay inside"."The streets are quiet."
Oooohhhhhhhh!
I pray for those STWers in London today, I hope they make it home past the ULEZ death squads and the riots on the tube.
Thanks for that link Poops, it's made my day. I am genuinely struggling to believe that it is true, but I can't imagine the BBC coming up with a made up story like that.
I particularly liked:
"Gripped by the tendrils of rising crime" it continued, "London citizens stay inside".
"The streets are quiet."
Straight out of Daily Mash shirley?
^^ It's a mad old world. I suppose it's always worth reminding ourselves that even in these odd times, we won the lottery of life being born in this country compared to most of the planets population.
That being said, I can't wait for boring politics to be the norm again, hopefully with accompanying functional government. 😁
watched 5 minutes of Sunak getting questioned about his change on the net zero plans.
He said he didn't want people to be forced to make the changes, he even mentioned "changing your diet".
Little shitbag.
Damn, my wife is down there today. Hope she survives the death squads.
I don't know what they're basing their assertion on that 'London is the most dangerous city in the world'.
Thats going to come as quite a shock to the inhabitents of Gaza, Donetsk, Tijuana or Aleppo
By any metric, this is absolutely mental!
https://twitter.com/Conservatives/status/1772321715713982730?s=20
martinhutch
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Damn, my wife is down there today. Hope she survives the death squads.
It's the zombies she needs to watch out for mate, these ones can shift.
Likely evolutionary zombie behaviour from running away from the ULEZ Enforcer squads whilst they were still alive. Great for the cardio.
The really weird thing about the narrative in that advert is that it is specifically aimed at Londoners, the very people who are most likely to know that it is total nonsense.
I genuinely have no idea at all what the **** they are talking about when they mention "squads of Ulez-enforcers dressed in black, faces covered with masks, terrorising communities at the beck and call of their Labour mayor master".
In fact the advert is so obviously counterproductive that I am starting to wonder whether it might have been a case of deliberate sabotage by someone in Conservative Party central office.
Junior ministers Robert Halfon and James Heappey quit government
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68669507
Sunak, Sunak, Sunak... you just can't get a break can you?
“Gripped by the tendrils of rising crime” it continued, “London citizens stay inside”.
Its true though.
What you wont see on the msm is that Khan has actually closed down the M25 and filled it with landmines and barbed wire to keep the helpless citizens inside the ring of terror.
After seeing the clip posted by binners it would appear that the first paragraph of the BBC article is maybe misleading:
"An advert in support of the Conservative's London mayoral candidate that featured scenes from New York instead of the capital has been deleted."
There is no evidence that it is in support of the Tory mayoral candidate, her name isn't even mentioned.
It seems to be saying "don't vote Labour nationally because this is what Labour has done in London".
Despite the fact that quite likely the majority of the London electorate will vote Labour on May2.
Or maybe they will be too scared to come out and vote?
Er, mind Mandelson was given the same honour. It's not breaking convention to have unelected cabinet members.
^^ Dear oh dear oh dear.
An outspoken MP, Gullis suggested in December 2023 that Rishi Sunak should elevate Nigel Farage, the former UKIP leader, to the House of Lords.
Gullis told GB News that the former Brexit Party leader would be an “asset across the Blue and the Red Wall”.
“I’d love to see it, personally”, Gullis said when the prospect of Farage joining the Conservative Party was raised.
He added: “I think Nigel has a lot to offer”.
🤡
The govenment are so insular, and short-termist looking... it does not inspire any sort of confidence...
...as a voter I want a visionary, ground breaking even, leadership, in a prime minister. It's arguably the most important job in the UK, and all we are seeing is petty squabbles and political manuvering.
binners
Full Member
What we’re seeing is a political death rattle
It really is like a dying animal just lashing out at anything that comes close, even it's own kin.
Can you imagine what a state the party will be in after a GE drubbing? It'll be complete civil war for at least a year with some absolutely epic blame gaming going on. We might actually see an increase in Party Leader turnover!
I think it's pretty much a given we'll have a GE in the autumn... any more delay is just abuse of process. But it won't be the first time the conservatives have abused process...
..so who knows?
Really they should have called a GE in May but that boat has sailed, and then there is summer recess...because MP's are paid so poorly they need to have a few months off over the summer.
https://www.parliament.uk/about/faqs/house-of-commons-faqs/business-faq-page/recess-dates/
^^ I can still see it happening in June perhaps as I've seen others mention. I think the infighting will be so bad after the locals that he might just call a snap election and be done with it. Or just walk! That would be hilarious. It's not like we have a functioning government anyway. I doubt we would hardly notice the difference.
He has bugger all to lose, he must know the game is up and his tech bros in SoCal are waiting for him no doubt. Along with his dusted off green card.
"Er, mind Mandelson was given the same honour. It’s not breaking convention to have unelected cabinet members."
Absolutely. And it was completely uncontroversial at the time.
How long before Gullis has to quit/resign when hes caught in a hot mike incident talking about Angela Rayner's arse?
as a voter I want a visionary, ground breaking even, leadership, in a prime minister.
I'd settle for boring and competent these days.
Absolutely. And it was completely uncontroversial at the time.
Well obvious sarcasm is obvious but it's still within convention
Members of the Cabinet are by convention chosen from members of the two houses of Parliament, as the Peel convention dictates that ministers may only be recruited from the House of Commons or the House of Lords, although this convention has been broken in the past for short periods.[10] Patrick Gordon Walker is perhaps the most notable exception: he was appointed to the Cabinet despite losing his seat in the 1964 general election, and resigned from Cabinet after running and losing in a by-election in January 1965.[11] Sometimes, when a minister from neither House is appointed, they have been granted a customary peerage.[12] The Cabinet is now made up almost entirely of members of the House of Commons.[7]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_the_United_Kingdom
Can you imagine what a state the party will be in after a GE drubbing? It’ll be complete civil war for at least a year with some absolutely epic blame gaming going on.
The civil war won’t wait for a general election. It’ll commence on May 3rd when the Tories get an absolute shoeing in the local elections. The present polling is saying they could lose over half their local councillors
Once that happens I it’ll be open season on Rishi. They’ll be like rats in a sack
kimbers
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How long before Gullis has to quit/resign when hes caught in a hot mike incident talking about Angela Rayner’s arse?
More than a grain of truth buried there, it's just up for debate about what completely batshit/ totally inappropriate incident that does for him.
What the hell will he do if/ when he loses his seat? He's can't go back to teaching, surely? Way too make bridges burnt. There must be a grift lined up?
The civil war won’t wait for a general election. It’ll commence on May 3rd when the Tories get an absolute shoeing in the local elections. The present polling is saying they could lose over half their local councillors
Once that happens I it’ll be open season on Rishi. They’ll be like rats in a sack
Plonk them on an island and let them go full Battle Royale or more appropriately, Lord of the Flies.
Highest rated show EVER.
"but it’s still within convention"
Statement of the bleeding obvious is bleeding obvious.
Okay could you just tell me what point you're making, I'm not in the mood for guessing games.
How long before Gullis has to quit/resign when hes caught in a hot mike incident talking about Angela Rayner’s arse
He’ll go in exactly the same fashion as 30p Lee, then will probably follow the same path over to reform to join his soulmate. I doubt he’ll be the last either
"Okay could you just tell me what point you’re making, I’m not in the mood for guessing games."
For the hard of thinking: a precedent doesn't make something a good idea, or immune from criticism by those from the same side.
I’d settle for boring and competent these days.
Me personaly, I absolutley agree.
May 3rd when the Tories get an absolute shoeing in the local elections.
Indeed, I have no love for Labour but I'm gonna vote for whatever red flag waving pointless dohnut they put forward in the locals. The country needs to send a strong and clear message to Downing Street that the tories time is over.
I'd sooner vote lib dem, but they have really no chance of doing anything in my locals.
Indeed, I have no love for Labour but I’m gonna vote for whatever red flag waving pointless dohnut they put forward in the locals. The country needs to send a strong and clear message that the tories time is over.
Same here and my constituency really is marginal, it's flipped back and forth a couple of times since I've lived here. Currently blue.
Also we'll be a new Mayoral Combined Authority so we get to vote for a Mayor as well. Another tick in a red box.
Junior ministers Robert Halfon and James Heappey quit government
Robert Halfon blocked me on Twitter years ago for mocking him for claiming that hackers had accessed his Twitter account to express condolences on the death of Jimmy Savile. All I said was that the hackers must have been time travellers to know that Savile was actually going to be disgraced. The memory always makes me smile when his name crops up, the dim *****.
Replacing Lee Anderson with Jonathan Gullis is like shitting your pants then changing your shirt!
https://twitter.com/wokeymcwokefac3/status/1772727497865494873?s=61&t=27Xz8oI3pGlaNEQvowJBcg
James Heappey always sounds like they're doing the Dominic Raaaaaaab thing again
Lord Carrington was the last unelected holder of one of the great offices of state, what, 100 years ago? Let’s not pretend it’s “normal” when these detached chinless wonders bring back the idea by making Cameron foreign secretary. It’s a ducking poke in the eye of our fast corroding democracy.
What do i know of Gullis for? Name is familiar for some piece of nonsense
Gullis is a right wing rent-a-gob, always ready with a soundbite to ‘say it like it is’. Like 30p Lee he’s the chinless private schoolboys idea of what a working class person is like.
The knuckle-draggers knuckle-dragger. A nasty, reactionary yob who they think will appeal to the Sun-reading, white van driving ‘Red Wall’ demographic.
He has to be odds on as the next one to join Reform
I’d settle for boring and competent these days
Competent conservatism?
Where does this ridiculous notion of successful politics being competent and boring is the correct readdress for the failed outcome of neolibralism - come from?
I mean imagine if the Tories were even more competent at concentrating wealth.
I think it's more that people are over the grim populist propaganda of the current government where truth and integrity are inconveniances to be ridden rough shod over. Boring and incompetent would be an improvement.
"“Er, mind Mandelson was given the same honour. It’s not breaking convention to have unelected cabinet members.”"
Absolutely. And it was completely uncontroversial at the time. "
Isn't the point that the current inepts previously campaigned on a platform of ridding us of unelected bureaucrats?
I’d settle for boring and competent these days
I would guess that the majority of people find politics boring and wouldn't really know if the government was particularly competent as they are not measuring it or looking that deeply because they find it boring.
That is the reason emotive BS like immigration can work on some people.
"Lord Carrington was the last unelected holder of one of the great offices of state, what, 100 years ago?"
Er, no actually. In the 80s. Within the lifetime for most of us on here.
Not disagreeing with the arguments against peers holding office, but easily disproved hyperbole is not a strong argument against it.
Damnit, I want my quote function back!
The fact that at a time where there's so much going on in the world the Foreign Secretary can't actually give any statements or take questions in the H0C is patently absurd, but thats not the real issue here. The main issue is that its 'Lord ••••ing Cameron'
Rishi must have been taking crack when he thought the solution to that particular problem was to enoble 'Dave' - the man who brought us Brexit, then scarpered - and elevate him to one of the great offices of state. Because he did such a great job as PM and its hardly like he's done much other than a write a book that nobody read then get mired in a lobbying scandal since.
Be honest... did anyone see David Cameron get out of that Range Rover outside number ten and not think 'WTAF?!'
What do i know of Gullis for? Name is familiar for some piece of nonsense
He's a football hooligan who got put into a suit for a court appearance but ended up walking into the House of Commons instead. The mistake still hasn't been rectified.
Loudmouth pound-shop version of Nigel Farage with similarly far right views on immigrants. Seems to think he's funny but he's basically just a strategically shaved Neanderthal.
Within the lifetime for most of us on here.
You have a better memory than me. Who was that? We’re talking PM, Chancellor, Home, Foreign Secretary.
Lord Carington was Foreign Secretary from 1979 - 1982 so not really 100 years ago and certainly within my lifetime.
Lord Carrington was the last unelected holder of one of the great offices of state, what, 100 years ago?
The UK had an unelected Prime Minister from the House of Lords in the 1960s
The good news is that Keir Starmer has pledged to abolish the House of Lords and replace it with "an elected chamber of regions and nations."
Keir Starmer: I will abolish House of Lords to ‘restore trust in politics’
Another possibility is that mattyfez is a Liberal Democrat supporter.
Or like me he has fallen out of love with Labour over the last few years?
thanks for the kick in the memory cells
Another possibility is that mattyfez is a Liberal Democrat supporter.
They don't really exist, just folk that won't commit either way 🙂
@ransos I'm not saying I agree with it, just that it's not an unusual occurrence and it's not outside the rules.
Keir Starmer: I will abolish House of Lords to ‘restore trust in politics’
Sisyphus would be proud
James Heappey always sounds like they’re doing the Dominic Raaaaaaab thing again
It's a step to the left. . . .
Lord Mandelson was "First Secretary of State" - i.e. Deputy Prime Minister under Brown. Of course, Lord Chancellor, which had to be occupied by a Lord, was generally regarded as a great office of state until its duties were reassigned. The occupier still precedes the Prime Minister in the Order of Precedence.
Some posts above about Gullis.
He was a teacher before becoming an MP.
For the sake of his former pupils, I hope he was a much better teacher than he is an MP.
He was a teacher before becoming an MP.
Explains a lot about the state of education in this country!
Jonathan Gillis is perhaps the only MP who can rightfully claim to have improved education in the UK in the last 14 years.
Apparently his former pupils describe him in less than glowing terms. High point was him losing his shit over someone photoshopping his head onto a picture of a seagull and sticking them up around the school.
High point was him losing his shit over someone photoshopping his head onto a picture of a seagull and sticking them up around the school.
I’m enjoying imagining that it might have been a fellow teacher who did this to him.
High point was him losing his shit over someone photoshopping his head onto a picture of a seagull and sticking them up around the school.
I'm now tempted to start every day by photoshopping Gullis's head onto a picture of a seagull and tagging him on Twitter. This is the one that caused him to lose his shit...
Almost worth a trip to Stoke with a bootload of copies.
It'd be great of Led By Donkeys just did a billboard of that image
Not sunak directly but informative about tory disarray. ..yesterday morning Nus Ghani, the (then) Construction Minster, told a trade forum, in person, that she would be in post for 'the rest of the year' and trotted out the usual platitudes about commitment, focus, investment etc.
Today - she's gone.
Peter Obourne rips into the Tories again.