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There is near to zero chance of you being sued IMO. If he actally contacts a lawyer, their interest will be in claiming against the gym operators as the door was defective, they have insurance to cover such a claim and they probably can't prove that the door was ever inspected. No lawyer will be keen to sue an individual who probably doesn't have insurance cover,due to the risk they won't get paid, and you weren't clearly negligent anyway. The gym will have wanted your details as a witness for their accident report form.
sued for what?
You were obviously trying to help, and acted reasonably.
Sad, isn't it, that the OP did somebody a favour, warned the guy to stand back, then accidentally injured the guy because he didn't heed the warning yet the OP is now worried about being sued?
That he acted with good intentions is irrelevant. "All I wanted to do was give the kids a nice canoeing trip" would not be a defence against negligence either.
I don't think we know enough about the incident to say for sure, but from the OP's brief description, he may have gone in shoulder-first, when he reasonably should have exercised more caution.
I don't think we know enough about the incident to say for sure, but from the OP's brief description, he may have gone in shoulder-first, when he reasonably should have exercised more caution.
I only gave it a little shove your honour, from the way the guy was shouting "help" I thought he was having a heart attack or something serious...
Reminds me of the fake Chinese car accidents posted on YouTube. Did he have a go pro on a chest mount
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I only gave it a little shove your honour, from the way the guy was shouting "help" I thought he was having a heart attack or something serious...
He did sound really very agitated. And it was barely a shove...
If jamb and Paul Mc are right, he was probably most annoyed that you weren't gym staff, then his manufactured case against them would have been clearer.
If jamb and Paul Mc are right, he was probably most annoyed that you weren't gym staff, then his manufactured case against them would have been clearer.
My lack of clothes at the time would have made that very obvious... 😳
Not sure it's safe to assume there was malign/fraudulent intent, he may have just been pillock
"All I wanted to do was give the kids a nice canoeing trip"
nothing like the same thing.
it was barely a shove...
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[quote=OP (earlier)]There was a lot of blood
Tell it to the judge!
Anyway, as others have said, I don't think you'll be sued.
Google Good Samaritan law, there is almost no chance you will get sued.
You checked out China's entry?
There have been incidents in China, such as the Peng Yu incident in 2006,[13][14] where good Samaritans who helped people injured in accidents were accused of having injured the victim themselves.The death of Wang Yue was caused when the toddler was run over by two vehicles. The entire incident was caught on a video, which shows eighteen people seeing the child but refusing to help. In a November 2011 survey, a majority, 71%, thought that the people who passed the child without helping were afraid of getting into trouble themselves.[15]
According to China Daily, "at least 10 Party and government departments and organizations in Guangdong, including the province's commission on politics and law, the women's federation, the Academy of Social Sciences, and the Communist Youth League, have started discussions on punishing those who refuse to help people who clearly need it."[16] Officials of Guangdong province, along with many lawyers and social workers, also held three days of meetings in the provincial capital of Guangzhou to discuss the case. It was reported that various lawmakers of the province are drafting a good Samaritan law, which would "penalize people who fail to help in a situation of this type and indemnify them from lawsuits if their efforts are in vain."[17] Legal experts and the public are debating the idea ahead of discussions and a legislative push.[18] On 1 August 2013, the nation's first good Samaritan law went into effect in Shenzhen.[19]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law#China
I've got nothing to add to his thread bar an appreciation for them mental storyline from the initial situation and door kick followed by two naked blokes, one leaking blood everywhere from a head wound trying to get to the gym reception to find a first aid kit.
This may just be a coincidence, but my freind (who is a Vietmanese student) was at his local gym this morning, he is a huge Bettles fan.
He told me he was singing along to one of their songs, Help was the one he mentioned, anyway he was singing along when suddenly someone kicked his door in and bashed his eyebrow, he was very confused ( and woried that he was going to be violated)
He said he won't be suing, he's just glad he is still a virgin.
Makes you think though.
Bettles
Does he also like the Ruling Stones and Pink Lloyd?
More importantly:
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[/i]The courts are reluctant to penalize people attempting rescue and English law makes provision for the actions of 'good Samaritans,' unless their actions were grossly negligent or made a situation worse. Cases such as Donoghue v Stevenson[26] where Lord Atkin culminates the parable of the good samaritan principle to 'love your neighbour' transposed in law for negligence liability.
I think you'll be fine.
he is a huge Bettles fan.
I was a Bettles fan back in the day.
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Does it strike anyone else as odd that the first course of action was to force the door rather than alert a member of staff? I mean if someone's trapped in a changing room and able to explain that, it's not like they aren't going to survive the 2 minutes for a member of staff to come along.
Nope. Perfectly fine. Don't want the door forced, don't repeatedly ask for help.
Stupid question, but how did the door 'stick'? Most public showers have the sort of doors with a lock mounted on the external surface that you can bust open. The door itself never sits flush with the frame and therefore can't stick. Did you break the lock?
Nope. Perfectly fine. Don't want the door forced, don't repeatedly ask for help.
And certainly don't ask finbar 😀
OP,
An unfortunate circumstances there ...
Nothing to worry about now as you have good intention to help.
Next time just report to the person in charge when someone is asking for help ... even when the person is dying coz you do not know if their family would sue you for not being a qualified person to help.
And certainly don't ask finbar
When the shit goes down, I want it to be finbar who is walking past my stall.
When the shit goes down, I want it to be finbar who is walking past my stall.
To push it back up? 😯
[i]When the shit doesn't go down, I want it to be finbar who is walking past my stall with a bent coathanger.[/i]
ftfy
Was he in the closet?
Apparently attempting to come out.
Maybe he told the staff you kicked his back door in. No wonder they took your details.
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Sounds like a danger**** gone awry.
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This is what happened last time I did that !
Are the gym to blame for having a door that jams? More so than you I would have thought.
What O.P. really did:
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Wait, you two are naked in the shower. The other guy says its stuck, you pushed harder and he got hurt, then he bled? 😯
The old "Supplies" joke 🙂
I once saw someone crawling under a pub toilet cubicle door after the door handle came off in his hand. Apparently he'd been yelling for about 15 mins (it was early in the evening) and nobody had heard him. You'd REALLY want to escape to consider lying on the floor to escape in that pub.
Thats nightmare material
i was working in equatorial guinea for a while a few years back.
few beers in at the bbq hut.
"wheres calum"
"dunno not seen him for half an hour or so - must be having a toldy(crap)"
about 20 minutes later calum arrives - and hands whats left of the bathroom door to the waiter.
apparently he had been shouting for a while and no one came so he just kicked shit out the door till it burst off its hinges - quite funny to see a human tank of a man arrive back from the bog holding the door by its handle as if it was normal.
I once saw someone crawling under a pub toilet cubicle door after the door handle came off in his hand. Apparently he'd been yelling for about 15 mins (it was early in the evening) and nobody had heard him.
...except you apparently. Glad to see you did the right thing and laughed at him crawling through the pish rather than opening the door. Good effort. 😀
Back to the OP, I don't think you have a thing to worry about - someone was shouting for help and you helped. There was no intent.
...except you apparently. Glad to see you did the right thing and laughed at him crawling through the pish rather than opening the door. Good effort.
I arrived as he was climbing under. It wasn't like I heard him yelling, went and got my friends, drinks and some chairs and sat waiting for him to roll around in stale piss.
[i]It wasn't like I heard him yelling, went and got my friends, drinks and some chairs and sat waiting for him to roll around in stale piss. [/i]
how disappointing.
I expect these days someone could get their own tv franchise along the lines of 'Dave gets trapped in ....' after live tweeting their experiences of being trapped in a pub toilet - choosing a different public place to get trapped each week. Lift, Starbucks toilet, self cleaning cubicle toilet, uber taxi etc.
No of course not.
Just to be safe, sue the gym.